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Warrior of Law

Will the NCAA games at the BC preclude MU from hosting a NIT game?  We should get a decent seed, so it would be unfortunate to not host.
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#UnleashSean

Any nit game will be at the AL. We couldn't get enough attendance to justify the bc.

muguru

Who gives a sh*t about the NIT?? I suppose those Wojo "slurpers" would point to it as progress..."see, this team made it to the postseason". Please. It's Mike Deane all over again "Marquette should be happy going to the NIT".
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We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Tugg Speedman

You sure we're going to the NIT?  1 - 4 since the Nova win.  If this continues we done after the BET

ecompt

If they do receive an NIT bid, they should reject it. No one wants to see this team play any longer than it absolutely has to.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: ecompt on February 11, 2017, 12:47:50 PM
If they do receive an NIT bid, they should reject it. No one wants to see this team play any longer than it absolutely has to.

That's crap.  You guys are acting like worse losers than the team.

fjm

Quote from: ecompt on February 11, 2017, 12:47:50 PM
If they do receive an NIT bid, they should reject it. No one wants to see this team play any longer than it absolutely has to.

I would go. And I know you would watch it.

ecompt

No way in hell would I watch it.

brewcity77

The NIT would be progress. I said as much before the season and stand by it.

That said, it would also be incredibly disappointing given where we were on January 24.

It's possible to be both progress and disappointing at the same time.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 11, 2017, 01:14:35 PM
The NIT would be progress. I said as much before the season and stand by it.

That said, it would also be incredibly disappointing given where we were on January 24.

It's possible to be both progress and disappointing at the same time.

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FartyEightHours

This program is one big shart right now. 

I remember the genius posters who thought it was mu and not the coach (buzz) that was causing our success.  U have to be really special to come to that conclusion.

Also the arrogant sarcasistic posters about slu.  Guess who we have been for the past half decade?
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marquette09

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 11, 2017, 01:14:35 PM
The NIT would be progress. I said as much before the season and stand by it.

That said, it would also be incredibly disappointing given where we were on January 24.

It's possible to be both progress and disappointing at the same time.

It's a joke that 4 years ago we were in the elite 8, coming off our third straight sweet 16, and 8th straight NCAA appearance now the NIT is Progress.  Sad.  Time for a change.   

ecompt

Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 11, 2017, 12:49:02 PM
That's crap.  You guys are acting like worse losers than the team.

You're right.  "Be patient, Wojo will get it done." OK, then.

brewcity77

Quote from: marquette09 on February 11, 2017, 01:23:49 PM
It's a joke that 4 years ago we were in the elite 8, coming off our third straight sweet 16, and 8th straight NCAA appearance now the NIT is Progress.  Sad.  Time for a change.

You think a change would make this better? That's funny. Make a change and it will get a LOT worse before it gets an iota better.

marquette09

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 11, 2017, 01:32:29 PM
You think a change would make this better? That's funny. Make a change and it will get a LOT worse before it gets an iota better.

Do you think this team will be any better next year with this staff? I don't think so.  I honestly hope I'm wrong, but I don't see any improvement coming. 

Anti-Dentite

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 11, 2017, 01:32:29 PM
You think a change would make this better? That's funny. Make a change and it will get a LOT worse before it gets an iota better.
I'm willing to bite that bullet to correct the mistake made in hiring Wojo.
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brewcity77

Quote from: marquette09 on February 11, 2017, 01:38:39 PM
Do you think this team will be any better next year with this staff? I don't think so.  I honestly hope I'm wrong, but I don't see any improvement coming.

If you change the staff, Howard and the entire recruiting class is gone. So too is any hope at Joey Hauser. Can't see Rowsey or Duane, both grad transfer eligible, sticking. Maybe one, not both. Three seniors leave.

If we cut ties with Wojo now, next year's roster would make 2015 look like the 1992 Dream Team.

Big Papi

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 11, 2017, 01:41:57 PM
If you change the staff, Howard and the entire recruiting class is gone. So too is any hope at Joey Hauser. Can't see Rowsey or Duane, both grad transfer eligible, sticking. Maybe one, not both. Three seniors leave.

If we cut ties with Wojo now, next year's roster would make 2015 look like the 1992 Dream Team.

Yes every single player on the roster leaves and we have 12 walk ons the next 4 years and get 0 wins and become worse than DePaul. 

At some point in time you have to look at what you have and decide if we are going in the right direction.  Even with numerous 20 win seasons they felt Deane was not the answer and made a change.  Bravo to them as it worked out.

A good coach can turn a program around quickly.

You can't make decisions based on who is going to stick around next year.  Is the program heading in the right direction?  You say yes.  I say no.  I don't want to be wrong but I haven't seen any improvement out of Wojo the coach.  I would seriously look at other coaching options and if I feel confident in getting who I wanted, I would make the change at the end of this basketball season.  At the end of year 3 in a rebuild, this team looks completely lost. 

Warrior of Law

This is year 3 from Ground Zero. Buzz was on his way out midway through his last season. The NIT is progress when seen big picture. The older players on this team are UWM material (Wilson, Johnson, Rienhardt). Give the younger players another week of practice and a few more games.  If tickets are $5 with free parking, I'd consider going.
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brewcity77

Quote from: mufanatic on February 11, 2017, 01:52:48 PMA good coach can turn a program around quickly.

You can't make decisions based on who is going to stick around next year.  Is the program heading in the right direction?  You say yes.  I say no.  I don't want to be wrong but I haven't seen any improvement out of Wojo the coach.  I would seriously look at other coaching options and if I feel confident in getting who I wanted, I would make the change at the end of this basketball season.  At the end of year 3 in a rebuild, this team looks completely lost.

I'm going to stand by Chicos' five year policy. Scoop would've fired K or Jay Wright after 2-3 years. I'm not saying Wojo will ever reach those heights, but we won't know if we sack him now.

And all I'm saying is be careful what you wish for. There's no guarantee a new coach would turn it around any faster and there's a very real chance it would look more like Dukiet than McGuire next year if Wojo was sent packing.

Today was demoralizing. It's the most pessimistic I've felt in a long time. But I always try to keep the perspectives that the bad in retrospect usually isn't as bad as it feels in the moment, just like the good isn't an indicator that it's all seashells and balloons

Big Papi

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 11, 2017, 02:56:33 PM
I'm going to stand by Chicos' five year policy. Scoop would've fired K or Jay Wright after 2-3 years. I'm not saying Wojo will ever reach those heights, but we won't know if we sack him now.

And all I'm saying is be careful what you wish for. There's no guarantee a new coach would turn it around any faster and there's a very real chance it would look more like Dukiet than McGuire next year if Wojo was sent packing.

Today was demoralizing. It's the most pessimistic I've felt in a long time. But I always try to keep the perspectives that the bad in retrospect usually isn't as bad as it feels in the moment, just like the good isn't an indicator that it's all seashells and balloons

I understand the 5 year policy and that a change doesn't mean success but I don't see the growth out of Wojo that I expect to see.  I saw it in Crean and I saw it in Buzz.  I don't see the adjustments out of Wojo.  In game adjustments or otherwise.  I don't see it in the current roster.  I don't see it happening next year either.  For all the bashing that Fisher gets, we are going to miss him dearly next year.  Its on Wojo for failing to put Fisher in the best position to succeed. 

I definitely don't see any of the freshmen bigs making any impact next year.  I don't know enough about Frohling but he is mid-season. 

When looking at the MU coaches over the last 20 plus years, the only coach i would say that Wojo is better than is Dukiet and that is a bit scary for me.   



NickelDimer

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 11, 2017, 01:14:35 PM
The NIT would be progress. I said as much before the season and stand by it.

That said, it would also be incredibly disappointing given where we were on January 24.

It's possible to be both progress and disappointing at the same time.
Would it be progress? I mean the expectations for this team were greater than the last two years, so it wouldn't be anything more than staying on par with what we've seen?
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Quote from: ecompt on February 11, 2017, 01:30:44 PM
You're right.  "Be patient, Wojo will get it done." OK, then.
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Quote from: brewcity77 on February 11, 2017, 01:41:57 PM
If you change the staff, Howard and the entire recruiting class is gone. So too is any hope at Joey Hauser. Can't see Rowsey or Duane, both grad transfer eligible, sticking. Maybe one, not both. Three seniors leave.

If we cut ties with Wojo now, next year's roster would make 2015 look like the 1992 Dream Team.

So Wojo departing would leave the cupboard bare? Hope he doesn't take the Duke job.

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