College football championship

[MU82]

I'm not even a big college football fan, but what a game that was last night.

Lots of drama throughout, the nation's best offense vs the nation's best defense, the winning play scored with 1 second to play, an upset of the sport's reigning dynasty, the vanquishing of Darth Saban, the coronation of Deshaun Watson, etc etc etc. Lots of great storylines and lots of fun.

The playoffs need to be expanded to at least 8 teams and the system still isn't perfect, but this postseason system is so much more satisfying than the BCS and its predecessors.

Best of all, because I DVRed the game and didn't start watching until about 90 minutes after it started, I didn't have to sit through the 3 minute commercials or the 30-minute halftime!

[injuryBug]

great game but NCAA needs to get a better replay system and figure out a way to stop the games from lasting forever.  4 hour games are a bit much.

Was glad to see Bama go down

[wadesworld]

All I know is that a game that starts at 7 PM shouldn't be ending after 11 PM.

And that there were clear cut illegal picks on each of the Tigers' final 2 touchdowns.

[4everwarriors]

Rolled Tide, ai na?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

All I know is that a game that starts at 7 PM shouldn't be ending after 11 PM.

And that there were clear cut illegal picks on each of the Tigers' final 2 touchdowns.

Maybe (didn't see them that closely) but picks are rarely called in a normal game without much meaning, as long as it's consistent with the season it's pretty much meh.

[jesmu84]

Someone on my twitter timeline with this gem after Watson's game-winning TD:

"@markstrot: Deshaun Watson probably lost Ryan Pace his job tonight"

[GGGG]

I might be wrong, but I don't think pushing your defender into another defender is a pick within three yards of the LOS.  But holy hell do I agree with the time of the game and replay.  They were reviewing EVERYTHING out there toward the end.

[MerrittsMustache]

The replay system and pace of the game definitely need some work but with a "7:00 game" starting after 7:15 and an extended halftime, the game is going to feel drawn out regardless. I do feel like social media's constant scrutiny of any remotely questionable call has put officials on edge and has led to over analysis of any close play, especially late in big games.


In addition, between Nova-Carolina, Warriors-Cavs, Cubs-Indians and now Bama-Clemson, it's been quite the run of amazing championship games.

[brandx]

great game but NCAA needs to get a better replay system and figure out a way to stop the games from lasting forever.  4 hour games are a bit much.

Was glad to see Bama go down

That is why I no longer watch college football. It a just brutal to sit through any game.

And the hype is 10x worse than the Super Bowl. If I ever hear again how Alabama has one of the greatest defenses of all time, I will puke.

Yeah, they were pretty good this year, but the SEC hype totally turns me off to college football. Remember a few years ago when we had to listen to the line that Tebow may have been the greatest college player ever.

[MerrittsMustache]

And that there were clear cut illegal picks on each of the Tigers' final 2 touchdowns.

On the final play, the DB grabbed the WR high and the WR just went down. Smart play. Nothing illegal about that. The Bama DB even said after the game that it wasn't a penalty. Also, pick plays aren't illegal unless the WR goes out of his way to grab the DB, committing offensive PI. He can run straight ahead and if he bumps into a defender or two along the way, so be it.

[GGGG]

Tebow was a pretty damn good college football player.  Greatest ever?  No.  But probably one of the best five over the last 20 years.

[wadesworld]

On the final play, the DB grabbed the WR high and the WR just went down. Smart play. Nothing illegal about that. The Bama DB even said after the game that it wasn't a penalty. Also, pick plays aren't illegal unless the WR goes out of his way to grab the DB, committing offensive PI. He can run straight ahead and if he bumps into a defender or two along the way, so be it.

The 2nd to last touchdown the WR shoves the DB with 2 hands to the chest before "turning for the ball" (aka throwing his hands above his head like the ball is in the air to him even though he knew he was never getting the ball).  On the last play he basically chop blocked the DB.  Even in Watson's post game interview he said "(enter WR's name) set a great pick and (enter other WR's name) came wide open and we made sure we secured the catch" (paraphrasing).

[Tugg Speedman]

great game but NCAA needs to get a better replay system and figure out a way to stop the games from lasting forever.  4 hour games are a bit much.

Was glad to see Bama go down

Amen!

The length of the game made took away from the drama and great play.

Ever notice it takes the announcers 3 seconds and two replays to figure out the correct call but the refs on the field take FOREVER!

They have to do what the NHL does, ref in the booth that just tells the ref on the field to change the play and get on with it!!!

[ATL MU Warrior]

The 2nd to last touchdown the WR shoves the DB with 2 hands to the chest before "turning for the ball" (aka throwing his hands above his head like the ball is in the air to him even though he knew he was never getting the ball).  On the last play he basically chop blocked the DB.  Even in Watson's post game interview he said "(enter WR's name) set a great pick and (enter other WR's name) came wide open and we made sure we secured the catch" (paraphrasing).

No.  You are seeing what you want to see.

[wadesworld]

No.  You are seeing what you want to see.

I couldn't care much less about college football. I like seeing Bama dominate it because I don't like college football in general, but I had no interest in the outcome of that game. But this is pretty much the definition of a chop block. All of the contact is initiated by the WR, he goes low into the DB's legs, etc.

[mu03eng]

Amen!

The length of the game made took away from the drama and great play.

Ever notice it takes the announcers 3 seconds and two replays to figure out the correct call but the refs on the field take FOREVER!

They have to do what the NHL does, ref in the booth that just tells the ref on the field to change the play and get on with it!!!

Hate to break it to you but that's how they do it in College Football. There is a replay official in the stadium that is monitoring the replay and decides to initiate a replay and then makes the determination with the field official.

[MerrittsMustache]

The 2nd to last touchdown the WR shoves the DB with 2 hands to the chest before "turning for the ball" (aka throwing his hands above his head like the ball is in the air to him even though he knew he was never getting the ball).  On the last play he basically chop blocked the DB.  Even in Watson's post game interview he said "(enter WR's name) set a great pick and (enter other WR's name) came wide open and we made sure we secured the catch" (paraphrasing).

Clemson second to last TD was a 1-yard run. I assume you mean on the TD to make it 24-21. The WR blocked his defender, stopped and the other DB ran into him. It is NOT illegal to get run into by a DB.

Again, setting a pick is NOT illegal. On the final play, the DB grabbed the WR near the shoulders and the WR went down at the DB's legs. The other DB who was trying to cover Renfrow got caught up with his own guy. Clemson's WR never touched him. There is NOTHING illegal about that.

[MerrittsMustache]

I couldn't care much less about college football. I like seeing Bama dominate it because I don't like college football in general, but I had no interest in the outcome of that game. But this is pretty much the definition of a chop block. All of the contact is initiated by the WR, he goes low into the DB's legs, etc.

I notice you left out the initial screenshot of the DB wrapping his arms around the WR's shoulder.

[ATL MU Warrior]

I couldn't care much less about college football. I like seeing Bama dominate it because I don't like college football in general, but I had no interest in the outcome of that game. But this is pretty much the definition of a chop block. All of the contact is initiated by the WR, he goes low into the DB's legs, etc.

I don't really care enough to continue to argue with you about it, but you are suggesting that the DB had nothing to do with the contact which is just absolutely incorrect. 

[wadesworld]

Clemson second to last TD was a 1-yard run. I assume you mean on the TD to make it 24-21. The WR blocked his defender, stopped and the other DB ran into him. It is NOT illegal to get run into by a DB.

Again, setting a pick is NOT illegal. On the final play, the DB grabbed the WR near the shoulders and the WR went down at the DB's legs. The other DB who was trying to cover Renfrow got caught up with his own guy. Clemson's WR never touched him. There is NOTHING illegal about that.

I notice you left out the initial screenshot of the DB wrapping his arms around the WR's shoulder.

I don't really care enough to continue to argue with you about it, but you are suggesting that the DB had nothing to do with the contact which is just absolutely incorrect. 

Yeah...no. The WR is clearly initiating the contact.  The Bama DB is getting knocked backwards, and then the Clemson WR continues to plow forward low into the DB's legs, as seen above.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Yeah...no. The WR is clearly initiating the contact.

ok

[MerrittsMustache]

Yeah...no. The WR is clearly initiating the contact.

[wadesworld]

Also the PI that set Clemson up at the 2 occurred outside of the end zone.  The ball landed in the end zone, but the contact between the DB and the WR was pretty clearly at the 2 yard line.  So instead of being at the 2 yard line that should've been a half the distance to the goal.

[MerrittsMustache]

Also the PI that set Clemson up at the 2 occurred outside of the end zone.  The ball landed in the end zone, but the contact between the DB and the WR was pretty clearly at the 2 yard line.  So instead of being at the 2 yard line that should've been a half the distance to the goal.

Nope. In college football, PI is a spot foul within 15 yards of the LOS.

[wadesworld]

Nope. In college football, PI is a spot foul within 15 yards of the LOS.

Okay.  So you put the ball at the 4 yard line, where the infraction occurred.  The ref said over the loud speaker "PI in the end zone.  The ball will be placed at the 2."  Pretty clear the PI did not occur in the end zone...