Quit Whining

[GGGG]

Wojo needs to look JuCo because he has zero track record of developing players at MU. Haanif has regressed, Duane has regressed, Sandy regressed to the point of being unable to play, Luke has not improved in three seasons.

His best players are Markus Howard and Sam Hauser, and they just came from high school.

Haanif has not regressed.

Duane's usage has gone down by he is much more efficient this year than in any other.

Sandy improved from his first to second year.

Luke has most definitely improved.


Congrats!  0-4. 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Wojo needs to look JuCo because he has zero track record of developing players at MU. Haanif has regressed, Duane has regressed, Sandy regressed to the point of being unable to play, Luke has not improved in three seasons.

I'd agree with you if you had managed to get even 50% of your facts correct

[dgies9156]

Back on subject, I'm really tired of the constant negativity of our fan base. Sure, we are not an elite level program, yet, but we're improving each year and we should give Wojo a chance to see what he can do with what's coming in.

Some specific issues I keep reading:

1) Wojo Can't Coach Defense -- Some of you guys need to go back and read Dean Smith's autobiography. In it, he speaks about Michael Jordan and about how the young players that came into North Carolina didn't know the Carolina way of defending. They had to be taught (Jordan, of course, was the exception). Even Al, the king of defense, implied the same thing in his quotes, "the best thing about freshmen is they become sophomores" and "my seniors are my stars." The fact is that it takes time to teach defense at the college level, which was very apparent last year. Our team is improving and as Wojo's guys become juniors and seniors, this should go away. I'm seeing a lot fewer back-door attacks on our defense that we used to and the overall effort is much, much better.

2) We Want Buzz -- First of all, the guy is gone. I suspect there is a proportion of the people who are whining about Buzz who somehow think if we whine enough, we'll get him back. Not gonna happen. If you want Buzz that badly, there's a hillbilly team in the Mountains of Virginia who would welcome you as a fan. Go cheer for them. Second, I had considerable reservation about Buzz's ability to develop talent. Vander Blue was an exception, but he was slow coming and with the exception of the Elite 8 run, never lived up to his press clippings. Need we remember Jeronne Maymon, Jamil Jones etc., all of whom had big pedigrees and disappointing outcomes. And we won't even talk about Mr. Newbill!

3) We Can Do Better -- Well, I suppose that if we called Slick Rick, Coach K, or John Calipari, they'd leave Duke, Louisville and Kentucky for Marquette. We just know they would. Have to! The fact is two of the best coaches we had in the Post Al era, Tommy Crean and KO, were first assistants at major programs. Want a winner, go where winners live and hire the best. That's what we did. I'd hate to think what Scoop would have done to MU after we hired Al from Belmont Abbey.

Look, this year is barely into the conference season. We had a heartbreaker against Seton Hall and got our heads handed to us by the Number 1 team in the country. But I see an improved team, a conscientious, hard working and smart coach and continued good recruiting. Are we where we should be? No, we're not. We have some weaknesses and in the months ahead, they'll be addressed. If not, our coach's seat should and will get hot.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I want to ask all the Juco proponents:  Who is available that Wojo should be recruiting?  I'll gladly add a Juco.  I truly would.

But it is way too easy to simply say Jucos are the answer.  So please, please, please give me a name.  Support your argument, don't just throw out tired cliches.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I want to ask all the Juco proponents:  Who is available that Wojo should be recruiting?  I'll gladly add a Juco.  I truly would.

But it is way too easy to simply say Jucos are the answer.  So please, please, please give me a name.  Support your argument, don't just throw out tired cliches.

At this point, we likely have two scholarships left for next year, assuming we nab Froling today. 

I think one should go to Greg Elliot - a guy who hopefully understands that he isn't going to see much PT year one, but is willing to work hard in practice and develop. 

The 2nd should be held for a HIGH IMPACT grad transfer.  A wing that can fill it up, or another front court option.

That gives us three scholarships in 2018 (Rowsey, Duane, and GRAD TRANSFER) - one for Joey, one for a stud PG (Watson, Ramey or Dosunmo), and one for best player available.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I want to ask all the Juco proponents:  Who is available that Wojo should be recruiting?  I'll gladly add a Juco.  I truly would.

But it is way too easy to simply say Jucos are the answer.  So please, please, please give me a name.  Support your argument, don't just throw out tired cliches.

I can't speak for those you addressed this to, but posters have talked about restrictions imposed by MU over and above NCAA base limits which results in a smaller pool of JUCOs available.  One poster even said the 'extra work/requirements' required to join MU caused a specific player to choose another institution.  Thus one potential source of players, while not closed is more difficult to exploit.

So I think it is fair to debate the policy under a broad umbrella.  Not that it matters for Wojo right now.

[jesmu84]

There is a lot of revisionist history taking place here to try to minimize the job Buzz Williams did at Marquette, in order to try to prop up the thus far, uninspiring start, to the Steven Wojciechoswki era at Marquette.

Wojo has gone after JUCO's, one-year rentals, and cut players, all in the attempt to become a winner from Day 1 of taking over the program. There is no "taking the long term approach to the rebuild," or trying to "build the program the right way and through high school kids."  This should be applauded, even if it hasn't resulted in us becoming a winner yet.  The clear challenge for Wojo is going to be the actual in game coaching part of the job.

Kudos to Lenny's Tap for setting the record straight.

So, Ners, who did Wojo cut?

[muguru]

Haanif has not regressed.

Duane's usage has gone down by he is much more efficient this year than in any other.

Sandy improved from his first to second year.

Luke has most definitely improved.


Congrats!  0-4.

If those players have improved, it's only slightly...It's barely noticeable..Haney can't go right, or create his own shot other than a drive to the hole...Luke can't make a jump shot even from 8-10 feet away(look at how much Davante improved in that area). Under Buzz, like Davante, you would see noticeable improvement like "wow, where did that come from all of a sudden"..They added things to their arsenal..You haven't seen that with Haney, Duane or Luke. So if there's been improvement, it's been useful, but NOT impactful.

[mu03eng]

If those players have improved, it's only slightly...It's barely noticeable..Haney can't go right, or create his own shot other than a drive to the hole...Luke can't make a jump shot even from 8-10 feet away(look at how much Davante improved in that area). Under Buzz, like Davante, you would see noticeable improvement like "wow, where did that come from all of a sudden"..They added things to their arsenal..You haven't seen that with Haney, Duane or Luke. So if there's been improvement, it's been useful, but NOT impactful.

Completely disagree with Davante, he showed up with a jump shot, but was coached NOT to use it until late in his career. That wasn't a tool they added late, it was something he was predisposed to do, much like his coast to coast lay-ups.

And for an apples to apples comparison, Luke can absolutely hit mid to short range jump shots, but they don't need/want him to do that in this offensive scheme. When you are playing 4 out, 1 in....it makes no sense to have your 1 in be a jump shooter.

Having said all of that, the jury is still out on player development from Wojo

[Let's Go Warriors]

MU is in a position right now to where they almost have to highly consider Jucos.  They currently have 9 scholarship players.  3 of which graduate.  I dont think its a good idea to bring in that man Frosh or 1 year transfers.  They should explore every option.

[GGGG]

If those players have improved, it's only slightly...It's barely noticeable..Haney can't go right, or create his own shot other than a drive to the hole...Luke can't make a jump shot even from 8-10 feet away(look at how much Davante improved in that area). Under Buzz, like Davante, you would see noticeable improvement like "wow, where did that come from all of a sudden"..They added things to their arsenal..You haven't seen that with Haney, Duane or Luke. So if there's been improvement, it's been useful, but NOT impactful.

Well again, that's not really true.  Just looking at Luke's Marquette stats...

**Luke's eFG% has been higher than Davante's for all three years.  Davante's actually decreased from years three to four.

**Luke's total rebound percentage has increased in three consecutive years.  Davante's decreased in three consecutive years.

**Davante's assist percentage increased in all three years.  Luke's has been relatively the same.

**Both have seen decreases in turnover percentage.  Both saw increases in both OR and DR three years.  Luke is better defensively, Davante offensively.

**Davante did a much better job getting to the line and shot at a high percentage.

It would be helpful if people actually looked at the objective measurements before making statements like that.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I can't speak for those you addressed this to, but posters have talked about restrictions imposed by MU over and above NCAA base limits which results in a smaller pool of JUCOs available.  One poster even said the 'extra work/requirements' required to join MU caused a specific player to choose another institution.  Thus one potential source of players, while not closed is more difficult to exploit.

So I think it is fair to debate the policy under a broad umbrella.  Not that it matters for Wojo right now.

The only Juco I recall giving Wojo an official visit is Darrlyn Willis.  6-8 220 PF leading Wichita State in scoring and rebounding at 12 & 6.  Would be nice to have him.

If the administration cost MU a chance at Willis, that is too bad.  Like I said, I'd gladly take a Juco.  Not much left this year though, at least as far as I can tell.

[Let's Go Warriors]

If we're having this same discussion next year he should be gone.

If we're having it in three years then the administration clearly doesn't care so we'll be screwed anyway.

This...

[manny31]

Back on subject, I'm really tired of the constant negativity of our fan base. Sure, we are not an elite level program, yet, but we're improving each year and we should give Wojo a chance to see what he can do with what's coming in.

Some specific issues I keep reading:

1) Wojo Can't Coach Defense -- Some of you guys need to go back and read Dean Smith's autobiography. In it, he speaks about Michael Jordan and about how the young players that came into North Carolina didn't know the Carolina way of defending. They had to be taught (Jordan, of course, was the exception). Even Al, the king of defense, implied the same thing in his quotes, "the best thing about freshmen is they become sophomores" and "my seniors are my stars." The fact is that it takes time to teach defense at the college level, which was very apparent last year. Our team is improving and as Wojo's guys become juniors and seniors, this should go away. I'm seeing a lot fewer back-door attacks on our defense that we used to and the overall effort is much, much better.

2) We Want Buzz -- First of all, the guy is gone. I suspect there is a proportion of the people who are whining about Buzz who somehow think if we whine enough, we'll get him back. Not gonna happen. If you want Buzz that badly, there's a hillbilly team in the Mountains of Virginia who would welcome you as a fan. Go cheer for them. Second, I had considerable reservation about Buzz's ability to develop talent. Vander Blue was an exception, but he was slow coming and with the exception of the Elite 8 run, never lived up to his press clippings. Need we remember Jeronne Maymon, Jamil Jones etc., all of whom had big pedigrees and disappointing outcomes. And we won't even talk about Mr. Newbill!

3) We Can Do Better -- Well, I suppose that if we called Slick Rick, Coach K, or John Calipari, they'd leave Duke, Louisville and Kentucky for Marquette. We just know they would. Have to! The fact is two of the best coaches we had in the Post Al era, Tommy Crean and KO, were first assistants at major programs. Want a winner, go where winners live and hire the best. That's what we did. I'd hate to think what Scoop would have done to MU after we hired Al from Belmont Abbey.

Look, this year is barely into the conference season. We had a heartbreaker against Seton Hall and got our heads handed to us by the Number 1 team in the country. But I see an improved team, a conscientious, hard working and smart coach and continued good recruiting. Are we where we should be? No, we're not. We have some weaknesses and in the months ahead, they'll be addressed. If not, our coach's seat should and will get hot.

More complaining...One of the problems with our defense is emblematic of what I see as a deeper problem with MU hoops as it exists right now. It is toughness/effort we don't have it in ample amounts, plain and simple. I don't know how you can measure that but MU fails the (my) eye test. Missed layups, failed box outs etc. MU will have a hard ceiling in the BE at # 5or 6 until Wojo can recruit Duke talent, which isn't going to happen. Much, much better? It seem to be trending the right way but not fast enough for complainers like me.
Buzz is gone. I guess it might be useful to use him as a comparison but maybe not?
Get somebody better, I generally agree that Wojo is about as good as we are going to get given program requirements. I am lukewarm  on Wojo right now but hopeful.
Let me complain for a moment. I also find it distasteful when posters go off on individuals on the team. I think it is in bad taste. I will continue to complain and whine about the lack of toughness. If you like go ahead and put entitled whiners like me on ignore.

[Nostradamus]

Haanif has not regressed.

Duane's usage has gone down by he is much more efficient this year than in any other.

Sandy improved from his first to second year.

Luke has most definitely improved.


Congrats!  0-4.

False - Don't recall any polls last season, or topics last season asking, What's wrong with Haanif?  Can Haanif recover/return to form?  Think most MU fans are a little worried and certainly had higher expectations for Haanif than what he's produced thus far this year.

True -  Duane was overplayed last year, resulting in lower efficiency.

False - Sandy Cohen was a train wreck by the end of last year, and worse than he was Day 1 walking into the MU program and starting.

False - Arguably, Luke's best game at MU was his first.  Negligible gains in rebounding percentage and eFG of all less than 2% since since he started playing 3 seasons ago aren't exactly the type of improvement we should be excited about after 3 seasons in the program.  All this said, Luke does get unfairly piled on by some fans.  He's a solid player and will be missed next year.

*I'm sure Wojo and staff don't hail the gains of Luke, Sandy, Duane and Haanif on the recruiting trail.

[mu03eng]

I can't speak for those you addressed this to, but posters have talked about restrictions imposed by MU over and above NCAA base limits which results in a smaller pool of JUCOs available.  One poster even said the 'extra work/requirements' required to join MU caused a specific player to choose another institution.  Thus one potential source of players, while not closed is more difficult to exploit.

So I think it is fair to debate the policy under a broad umbrella.  Not that it matters for Wojo right now.

Keep in mind those Juco requirements were in place from the previous AD/Prez. And that was a reaction (wrongly IMO) to a combination issues including a player coming to Marquette that was a really tough stretch academically. Not that the player couldn't handle the academics but that admitting him was a potential red flag to the NCAA that we thankfully dodged.

There is not currently a separate standard for Juco's compared to any other student-athlete. Anyone who meets the current academic standard can be admitted to the university. It could be argued the standard is less forgiving on Jucos because of accreditation issues but it's not deliberate to my knowledge.

Bottom line, if Wojo wanted a Juco he could more than likely get that juco.

[mu03eng]

False - Don't recall any polls last season, or topics last season asking, What's wrong with Haanif?  Can Haanif recover/return to form?  Think most MU fans are a little worried and certainly had higher expectations for Haanif than what he's produced thus far this year.

Not meeting expectations is a totally different thing than regressing.

[GGGG]

False - Don't recall any polls last season, or topics last season asking, What's wrong with Haanif?  Can Haanif recover/return to form?  Think most MU fans are a little worried and certainly had higher expectations for Haanif than what he's produced thus far this year.

True -  Duane was overplayed last year, resulting in lower efficiency.

False - Sandy Cohen was a train wreck by the end of last year, and worse than he was Day 1 walking into the MU program and starting.

False - Arguably, Luke's best game at MU was his first.  Negligible gains in rebounding percentage and eFG of all less than 2% since since he started playing 3 seasons ago aren't exactly the type of improvement we should be excited about after 3 seasons in the program.  All this said, Luke does get unfairly piled on by some fans.  He's a solid player and will be missed next year.

*I'm sure Wojo and staff don't hail the gains of Luke, Sandy, Duane and Haanif on the recruiting trail.

The objective measurements show that I am correct.  Unless you can show objectively what I said was false, then you are 1-4.  Slightly better than the OP, but still below replacement level.

[BM1090]

Wojo needs to look JuCo because he has zero track record of developing players at MU. Haanif has regressed, Duane has regressed, Sandy regressed to the point of being unable to play, Luke has not improved in three seasons.

His best players are Markus Howard and Sam Hauser, and they just came from high school.

Besides all of this being wrong...Heldt improved year 1 to year 2. JJJ is far better than when Wojo got here.

[Nostradamus]

The objective measurements show that I am correct.  Unless you can show objectively what I said was false, then you are 1-4.  Slightly better than the OP, but still below replacement level.

Objective?  Like Haanif's eFG% regressing from 54.3% after a whole season of Big East play (as a freshman) to 48.6% through cupcake season and 3 Big East games thus far this season?  Granted his train wreck of  turnover rate as a freshman has come down this year (and subsequently his O-Rating his "improved") since he isn't playing PG this season, as was the case, inexplicably, last season.

Pretty sure of the Four Factors most important to winning basketball games eFG% is a factor, but O-Rating is not.

Haanif's regression in eFG is concerning and absolutely affecting the team in a negative manner.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

  same thing Buzz used..Jucos. Too bad if the admin doesnt like it. It's not cheating..and it's Wojo's program..the admin need to step aside and let him run it the way he wants. It's a potential win-win. We know for a fact that the BB team successful at MU has lead to more applications, more interest in the University as a whole which means more $$. In fact the Admin should be encouraging him to recruit Jucos.

The myth of the fertile recruiting grounds of JUCO has been greatly exaggerated. We were absolutely spoiled with the quality of JUCOs we got from Buzz. Crowder, JFB, DJO, and Buycks were four of the best JUCOs not just of their time period, but of all time. Most JUCOs don't pan out at the high major level. What JUCOs was Wojo supposed to land?

Over the past two years, 247 has ranked 99 players as the top JUCOs in the country.

1 was accused of sexual assault multiple times and as such wouldn't have been welcomed at Marquette. (2015 #1 Dominic Artis, went to UTEP). 98 Left.

Of those 98, 66 have yet to average more than 20 minutes in a game. An admittedly arbitrary stat but you would think to be an impact player at Marquette that you would have averaged around 20 minutes at most programs. 32 left.

Of those 32, 4 went to low major programs (South Alabama, Eastern Illinois, Lipscomb, and Grand Canyon). Definitely not at Marquette's level, down to 28.

Of those 28, 11 went to mid major programs (Murray State, Little Rock, UTEP, Houston, Western Kentucky, Fresno State, Central Florida, Iona, Missouri State, Tulsa, and Middle Tennessee State). A couple of those might have cracked Marquette's roster and some might have even started. But most would be role players at best. Down to 17.

Of those 17, 7 went to high major programs currently ranked outside of the top 100 per KenPom (St. John's, LSU, Auburn, Washington, Rutgers, Missouri, and Washington State). Again, some might have cracked the roster, and some may have earned a starting spot, but most would be role players at Marquette, if that. 10 Left.

Here are the 10 remaining JUCOs:
2015 #11 Chris Boucher (Oregon): 25.3 minutes, 14.1 points, 7.3 rebounds, 2.9 blocks
2015 #13 Justin Leon (Florida): 21.7 minutes, 7.2 points, 3.4 rebounds, .455 3P%
2015 #23 Vladimir Brodziansky (TCU): 20.3 minutes, 11.4 points, 5.2 rebounds, .590 FG%
2015 #34 Devon Thomas (Texas Tech): 25.5 minutes, 4.9 points, 3.8 assists, 1.3 steals
2015 #50 Rasheed Brooks (Ole Miss): 23.9 minutes, 8.8 points, 3.1 rebounds, 1.1 steals
2016 #1 Jaylen Barford (Arkansas): 22.1 minutes, 10.2 points, 3.3 rebounds, .286 3P%
2016 #5 Daryl Macon (Arkansas): 24.9 minutes, 14.1 points, 2.5 assists, .391 3P%
2016 #14 Tyler Rawson (Utah): 23.5 minutes, 7.7 points, 5.2 rebounds, 0.9 blocks
2016 #22 JoJo Zamora (Utah): 25.3 minutes, 10.6 points, 1.5 assists, .434 3P%
2016 #26 Justas Furmanavicius (Ole Miss): 23.6 minutes, 6.0 points, 5.4 rebounds, 1.5 blocks

All 10 would at least be rotation players for Marquette. I would say only Boucher and Macon would be definite starters. Others might have started, really can't say. Boucher is for sure the only true impact player that was the level of JUCO that Buzz was bringing in.

Oh and all these are assuming that none of the 99 had any disciplinary or academic issues that would have kept them out (besides Artis whose case I happened to know)

This is far from a science. There is a juco or two at the mid major level that I think could have competed at Marquette, Rob Gray at Houston comes to mind, but the main point still stands. Most JUCOs are JUCOs because they aren't very good at basketball. The pool of JUCOs capable of stepping in and starting for a high major is EXTREMELY shallow. In most cases, I would rather get a freshman who has four years to develop into a starter. I would rather have Howard and Hauser than any JUCO from last year's class. There were a couple of JUCOs in the 2015 class I would have rather had than say Heldt or Anim, but only a couple.

[BM1090]

Objective?  Like Haanif's eFG% regressing from 54.3% after a whole season of Big East play (as a freshman) to 48.6% through cupcake season and 3 Big East games thus far this season?  Granted his train wreck of  turnover rate as a freshman has come down this year (and subsequently his O-Rating his "improved") since he isn't playing PG this season, as was the case, inexplicably, last season.

Pretty sure of the Four Factors most important to winning basketball games eFG% is a factor, but O-Rating is not.

Haanif's regression in eFG is concerning and absolutely affecting the team in a negative manner.

His EFG% has regressed, but his overall offensive rating has improved....so.....

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Keep in mind those Juco requirements were in place from the previous AD/Prez. And that was a reaction (wrongly IMO) to a combination issues including a player coming to Marquette that was a really tough stretch academically. Not that the player couldn't handle the academics but that admitting him was a potential red flag to the NCAA that we thankfully dodged.

There is not currently a separate standard for Juco's compared to any other student-athlete. Anyone who meets the current academic standard can be admitted to the university. It could be argued the standard is less forgiving on Jucos because of accreditation issues but it's not deliberate to my knowledge.

Bottom line, if Wojo wanted a Juco he could more than likely get that juco.

I dont disagree with anything you said. 

I question whether or not the 'able to achieve a degree within time playing basketball' is equatable or makes sense for the program (quoting because I dont know the precise restriction).  I know those closer to academia feel strongly about it - I don't.

I say if you take one and dones, grad transfers and live in a world where high percentage of your freshman recruits don't end up staying in the same school for four years and players get cut from time to time - why limit this group as a source of recruits.

[MUBigDance]

catching up on scoop....9 pages of replies in 2 days?! Winner post.

Not Read the 9 pages worth so forgive if my post misses something.

My take: Agree with the tenor of the Post and everything stated except the stuff on Buzz...that was whining of a different sort...take that paragraph out and 5-stars.

[Lennys Tap]

The myth of the fertile recruiting grounds of JUCO has been greatly exaggerated. We were absolutely spoiled with the quality of JUCOs we got from Buzz. Crowder, JFB, DJO, and Buycks were four of the best JUCOs not just of their time period, but of all time. Most JUCOs don't pan out at the high major level. What JUCOs was Wojo supposed to land?

Over the past two years, 247 has ranked 99 players as the top JUCOs in the country.

1 was accused of sexual assault multiple times and as such wouldn't have been welcomed at Marquette. (2015 #1 Dominic Artis, went to UTEP). 98 Left.

Of those 98, 66 have yet to average more than 20 minutes in a game. An admittedly arbitrary stat but you would think to be an impact player at Marquette that you would have averaged around 20 minutes at most programs. 32 left.

Of those 32, 4 went to low major programs (South Alabama, Eastern Illinois, Lipscomb, and Grand Canyon). Definitely not at Marquette's level, down to 28.

Of those 28, 11 went to mid major programs (Murray State, Little Rock, UTEP, Houston, Western Kentucky, Fresno State, Central Florida, Iona, Missouri State, Tulsa, and Middle Tennessee State). A couple of those might have cracked Marquette's roster and some might have even started. But most would be role players at best. Down to 17.

Of those 17, 7 went to high major programs currently ranked outside of the top 100 per KenPom (St. John's, LSU, Auburn, Washington, Rutgers, Missouri, and Washington State). Again, some might have cracked the roster, and some may have earned a starting spot, but most would be role players at Marquette, if that. 10 Left.

Here are the 10 remaining JUCOs:
2015 #11 Chris Boucher (Oregon): 25.3 minutes, 14.1 points, 7.3 rebounds, 2.9 blocks
2015 #13 Justin Leon (Florida): 21.7 minutes, 7.2 points, 3.4 rebounds, .455 3P%
2015 #23 Vladimir Brodziansky (TCU): 20.3 minutes, 11.4 points, 5.2 rebounds, .590 FG%
2015 #34 Devon Thomas (Texas Tech): 25.5 minutes, 4.9 points, 3.8 assists, 1.3 steals
2015 #50 Rasheed Brooks (Ole Miss): 23.9 minutes, 8.8 points, 3.1 rebounds, 1.1 steals
2016 #1 Jaylen Barford (Arkansas): 22.1 minutes, 10.2 points, 3.3 rebounds, .286 3P%
2016 #5 Daryl Macon (Arkansas): 24.9 minutes, 14.1 points, 2.5 assists, .391 3P%
2016 #14 Tyler Rawson (Utah): 23.5 minutes, 7.7 points, 5.2 rebounds, 0.9 blocks
2016 #22 JoJo Zamora (Utah): 25.3 minutes, 10.6 points, 1.5 assists, .434 3P%
2016 #26 Justas Furmanavicius (Ole Miss): 23.6 minutes, 6.0 points, 5.4 rebounds, 1.5 blocks

All 10 would at least be rotation players for Marquette. I would say only Boucher and Macon would be definite starters. Others might have started, really can't say. Boucher is for sure the only true impact player that was the level of JUCO that Buzz was bringing in.

Oh and all these are assuming that none of the 99 had any disciplinary or academic issues that would have kept them out (besides Artis whose case I happened to know)

This is far from a science. There is a juco or two at the mid major level that I think could have competed at Marquette, Rob Gray at Houston comes to mind, but the main point still stands. Most JUCOs are JUCOs because they aren't very good at basketball. The pool of JUCOs capable of stepping in and starting for a high major is EXTREMELY shallow. In most cases, I would rather get a freshman who has four years to develop into a starter. I would rather have Howard and Hauser than any JUCO from last year's class. There were a couple of JUCOs in the 2015 class I would have rather had than say Heldt or Anim, but only a couple.

Nice analysis, TAMU. If finding guys like JFB, DJO, Buycks and Crowder (and McKay and a healthy Joe Fulce) were commonplace everyone (including Duke) would be recruiting JUCOs. Those guys were a rare combination of talent and dedication you'll rarely find in the junior college ranks - or anywhere else, for that matter.