Big East Play Thread

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

So, do we want Xavier to beat SHU tomorrow or vice versa? Not sure which one is better for us...

That game is tomorrow, but we should definitely be pulling for X.  A loss would push SHU to 6-9.  We should also pull for Nova (over Butler) and Creighton (over PC).

[cheese ball chaser]

That game is tomorrow, but we should definitely be pulling for X.  A loss would push SHU to 6-9.  We should also pull for Nova (over Butler) and Creighton (over PC).

Yup, saw that. Did a ninja edit and then realized X win is better 

[KampusFoods]

So who are we pulling for tomorrow - X or SHU?

Probably X in the interest of weakening SHU's tourney hopes. They're right there with us on the bubble. Gives us some separation from them in the league standings. Of course if SHU wins and we beat STJ, we will be tied for 4th with X. Also a good thing.

[cheese ball chaser]

Probably X in the interest of weakening SHU's tourney hopes. They're right there with us on the bubble. Gives us some separation from them in the league standings. Of course if SHU wins and we beat STJ, we will be tied for 4th with X. Also a good thing.

I suppose it doesn't make a yuge difference, one way or another

[Herman Cain]

We don't want the wheels to come off the wagon too soon for X so probably best that they win. If  The Hall wins it probably is ok as it further solidifies them as a tournament candidate . At this point we want as many Big East teams tournament worthy as possible . Helps our cause in terms of getting in the tournament and financially it is good for the league.

St Johns screwed the whole league by losing to a bunch of bad teams.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Wednesday in the Big East
DePaul/Georgetown, CBSSN--Andrew Catalon, Steve Lappas and Evan Washburn (reporter)
Providence/Creighton, FSN--Steve Physioc, Nick Bahe
Xavier/Seton Hall, FS1--Joe Davis, Donny Marshall
Butler/Villanova, FS1--Tim Brando, Bill Raftery

[fjm]

So who are we pulling for tomorrow - X or SHU?

Depends.
If we win tonight we want seton hall I'd think.
Vice versa.

[Golden Avalanche]

Depends.
If we win tonight we want seton hall I'd think.
Vice versa.

I'd say quite the opposite. Win or lose tonight and you root for Hall loss. Hall is only real competition for fifth bid in the conference. We need separation from them (we can create two game separation from SJU and PC by defeating them this week) to enhance our Tournament bid.

[brewcity77]

I'd say quite the opposite. Win or lose tonight and you root for Hall loss. Hall is only real competition for fifth bid in the conference. We need separation from them (we can create two game separation from SJU and PC by defeating them this week) to enhance our Tournament bid.

Our bid will be based on our merits. Win 2 more and we're in regardless. Win 1 and we've got a good shot. SHU can win or lose and will likely have virtually no impact on that.

[Golden Avalanche]

Our bid will be based on our merits. Win 2 more and we're in regardless. Win 1 and we've got a good shot. SHU can win or lose and will likely have virtually no impact on that.

Considering their attractive computer numbers, if there's a three game separation between MU and Hall with the teams having split their two games it would be a good thing. We need all the good things we can get.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Considering their attractive computer numbers, if there's a three game separation between MU and Hall with the teams having split their two games it would be a good thing. We need all the good things we can get.

Agreed. I would rather SHU be the 6th team than Us.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Just for sh*ts and gigs, I looked to see what seed we would get if we won out and ended in a three way tie for 2nd place with Creighton (2-2 finish) and Butler (1-2 finish).  Pretty sure we would end up in 3rd.

1) Mini-conference record would all be tied at 2-2 between MU, CU and Butler. 

2) Next tie breaker is record versus the highest seeded team.  That would be Nova.  MU and Butler both 1-1.  So CU eliminated.  Then it goes back to head-to-head, in which Butler wins. 

So I think to get the 2 seed we'd need Butler to lose out (@ Nova, @ X and vs. SHU). 

Obviously far fetched for multiple reasons, but figured I'd share.

Remaining schedules for the middle of the BE:

Butler (10-5): @Nova, @ X, vs. HALL

Creighton (9-5): vs. PC, @ Nova, vs. SJU, @ Marq

Xavier (8-6): @ HALL, vs. Butler, vs. Marq, @ Depaul

Marquette (8-7): @ PC, @ X, vs. Creighton

Seton Hall (6-8): vs. X, @ Depaul, vs. Gtown, @ Butler

Providence (6-8): @ Creighton, vs. Marq, vs. Depaul, @ SJU

SJU (6-9): vs. Gtown, @ Creighton, vs. PC

Georgetown (5-9): vs. Depaul, @ SJU, @ HALL, vs. NOVA

[brewcity77]

Considering their attractive computer numbers, if there's a three game separation between MU and Hall with the teams having split their two games it would be a good thing. We need all the good things we can get.

Only in the sense that they're another bubble team. I'd rather have all the Big East teams get in. My ideal scenario would be MU at 11-7, Butler, Creighton, and Xavier at 10-8, and SHU and Providence at 9-9. Give me 7 Big East bids. As long as we take care of business, we get in no matter what happens elsewhere, so give me as many Big East teams as possible.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Only in the sense that they're another bubble team. I'd rather have all the Big East teams get in. My ideal scenario would be MU at 11-7, Butler, Creighton, and Xavier at 10-8, and SHU and Providence at 9-9. Give me 7 Big East bids. As long as we take care of business, we get in no matter what happens elsewhere, so give me as many Big East teams as possible.

Interesting. Its actually possible that MU goes 11-7, Butler, Creighton and X at 10-8, and Seton Hall, PC and Georgetown at 9-9. 

Marquette (8-7): @ PC (W), @ X, (W) vs. Creighton (W) – 11-7

Butler (10-5): @Nova (L), @ X(L), vs. HALL(L) - 10-8

Creighton (9-5): vs. PC (L), @ Nova (L), vs. SJU (W), @ Marq (L) - 10-8

Xavier (8-6): @ HALL (L), vs. Butler (W), vs. Marq (L), @ Depaul (W) - 10-8

Seton Hall (6-8): vs. X (W), @ Depaul (W), vs. Gtown (L), @ Butler (W) - 9-9

Providence (6-8): @ Creighton (W), vs. Marq (L), vs. Depaul (W), @ SJU (W) - 9-9

Georgetown (5-9): vs. Depaul (W), @ SJU (W), @ HALL (W), vs. NOVA (W) 9-9

SJU (6-9): vs. Gtown (L), @ Creighton (L), vs. PC (L) - 6-12

Wonder how many bids the BE would get then. 

[brewcity77]

Interesting. Its actually possible that MU goes 11-7, Butler, Creighton and X at 10-8, and Seton Hall, PC and Georgetown at 9-9. 

Marquette (8-7): @ PC (W), @ X, (W) vs. Creighton (W) – 11-7

Butler (10-5): @Nova (L), @ X(L), vs. HALL(L) - 10-8

Creighton (9-5): vs. PC (L), @ Nova (L), vs. SJU (W), @ Marq (L) - 10-8

Xavier (8-6): @ HALL (L), vs. Butler (W), vs. Marq (L), @ Depaul (W) - 10-8

Seton Hall (6-8): vs. X (W), @ Depaul (W), vs. Gtown (L), @ Butler (W) - 9-9

Providence (6-8): @ Creighton (W), vs. Marq (L), vs. Depaul (W), @ SJU (W) - 9-9

Georgetown (5-9): vs. Depaul (W), @ SJU (W), @ HALL (W), vs. NOVA (W) 9-9

SJU (6-9): vs. Gtown (L), @ Creighton (L), vs. PC (L) - 6-12

Wonder how many bids the BE would get then.

I think that would get us 7 bids, and Georgetown into the NIT. Unless GT wins the BET, I think they're out. Just too many total losses. Though if they had wins vs Villanova, Oregon, Butler, and Creighton, that might be enough to offset the not-that-horrible loss at home to Arkansas State. Figure at that point, everyone else they lost to would be a NCAA team.

[Oldgym]

PC has tied Creighton at 62, 5 to play. Yikes.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

G'Town replaces Marquette this year in the inexplicable-loss-to-DePaul category.

X looked terrible offensively even with Blueitt back.  I really dislike Seton Hall, though, and would like to see them lose out.  Any chance Delgado tries to go pro after this year?

[MUBigDance]

Providence game scary now. They have the mojo after Creighton and 3 winnable games. They are hungry.

Need to make a statement. If we tie providence at 9-9 or they're 10-8 over our 9-9. We could be no 6 on the outside looking in.

Like  X and STJ, Biggest game of the year.

[wadesworld]

Providence game scary now. They have the mojo after Creighton and 3 winnable games. They are hungry.

Need to make a statement. If we tie providence at 9-9 or they're 10-8 over our 9-9. We could be no 6 on the outside looking in.

Like  X and STJ every game up to this point, Biggest game of the year.

FIFY.

[MUfan12]

PC is playing well, no doubt. I like having them off a last-second win, though. And MU has an extra day of rest.

It'll be tough, but I like MU's chances.

[brewcity77]

Need to make a statement. If we tie providence at 9-9 or they're 10-8 over our 9-9. We could be no 6 on the outside looking in.

Right now, better chance both Providence and Marquette make it in than neither. I want to beat PC, but no matter what happens Saturday we are still both alive for a berth.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Didn't see this posted here anywhere.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18743647/creighton-bluejays-suspend-injured-maurice-watson-misconduct

Wonder what he did. 

[BM1090]

Didn't see this posted here anywhere.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18743647/creighton-bluejays-suspend-injured-maurice-watson-misconduct

Wonder what he did.

He's being investigated for sexual assault.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

He's being investigated for sexual assault.

Yeesh.  Did it occur prior to injury? ie: he would have been suspended anyway?

[drewm88]

Yeesh.  Did it occur prior to injury? ie: he would have been suspended anyway?

Allegedly occurred (or at least reported) in early February. Post-injury.