Big East Play Thread

[Mr. Nielsen]

 Saturday 2/11/17

10:30AM- Marquette at Georgetown, FOX -Tim Brando, Stephen Bardo, Lisa Byington (reporter)

11am- Seton Hall @ St. John's, CBSSN-- Rich Waltz, Doug Gottlieb and sideline reporter Jon Rothstein

1PM- Creighton @ DePaul, FS1- Jeff Levering, Dickey Simpkins

1:30PM- Villanova @ Xavier, FOX- Gus Johnson, Jim Jackson, Shannon Spake

3:00PM- Butler @ Providence, CBSSN- Andrew Catalon, Steve Lappas & Jamie Erdahl

[fjm]

Saturday 2/11/17

10:30AM- Marquette at Georgetown, FOX -Tim Brando, Stephen Bardo, Lisa Byington (reporter)

11am- Seton Hall @ St. John's, CBSSN-- Rich Waltz, Doug Gottlieb and sideline reporter Jon Rothstein

1PM- Creighton @ DePaul, FS1- Jeff Levering, Dickey Simpkins

1:30PM- Villanova @ Xavier, FOX- Gus Johnson, Jim Jackson, Shannon Spake

3:00PM- Butler @ Providence, CBSSN- Andrew Catalon, Steve Lappas & Jamie Erdahl

Ok so...
Let's go MU!
Let's go St Johns
Let's go DePaul
Let's go nova
And let's go butler!

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Ok so...
Let's go MU!
Let's go St Johns
Let's go DePaul
Let's go nova
And let's go butler!

Definitely want Creighton to beat Depaul.

[BM1090]

Definitely want Creighton to beat Depaul.

Yeah and I'm not sure about St. John's over SHU either. I don't know how to feel about that one. Definitely rooting for Nova and Butler.

[fjm]

Yeah and I'm not sure about St. John's over SHU either. I don't know how to feel about that one. Definitely rooting for Nova and Butler.

My reasoning is wanting to have the teams directly below us drop a bit farther away. And the teams way ahead of us, keep going up.

And then the teams that we are reachable, I would like to gal closer to us.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

What's best for the conference and what's best for us don't necessarily align....though us beating GTWN is best for both!

[Golden Avalanche]

Yeah and I'm not sure about St. John's over SHU either. I don't know how to feel about that one. Definitely rooting for Nova and Butler.

Hall is the only real competition for our spot. Even if the Johnnies end up level record-wise with Marquette, they are not getting a berth. MU can likely kill off the remote chance for Hoyas with a win tomorrow. PC isn't getting to the tourney.

So, any chance Hall gets to lose both provides a cushion for when MU inevitably loses down the stretch and a cushion in the eyes of the committee. Here's hoping LoVett/Ponds play like they did against MU and not how they played against Nova.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

We don't have the defense to make them play like that?

Lol, yah, I'm sure that is it. But man, turnovers and missed wide open shots galore. 

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Ok so...
Let's go MU!
Let's go St Johns
Let's go DePaul
Let's go nova
And let's go butler!

Ehhh.

Think we want the Hall over SJU, but I could see the argument the other way. No way BE gets lets than 5, and I suppose Hall is our biggest competitor for that spot.

Definitely want Creighton over Depaul. 

The rest I agree with.   

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

X @ PC 5:30 FS1

Creighton @ Seton Hall 7:00 CBSSN

SJU @ Butler 7:30 FS1

We should pull for X, Creighton and Butler (could see an argument for SJU). 

[Newsdreams]

X @ PC 5:30 FS1

Creighton @ Seton Hall 7:00 CBSSN

SJU @ Butler 7:30 FS1

We should pull for X, Creighton and Butler (could see an argument for SJU).

No I want SJU to lose we need to finish at least 5th in BE

[muguru]

X @ PC 5:30 FS1

Creighton @ Seton Hall 7:00 CBSSN

SJU @ Butler 7:30 FS1

We should pull for X, Creighton and Butler (could see an argument for SJU).

How things have changed...a week or 10 days ago, when I THOUGHT MU still had a good chance of finishing 2nd, I would have been rooting hard against Butler, Creighton and X...then the Georgetown sh*tshow happened, and it's survival time, so Hall, PC and SJU all need to lose.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Looks like Hall is gonna knock off Creighton. The middle gets a little more jammed...two games are gonna separate 3rd and 8th..and 3 from 2nd to 9th.

[Windyplayer]

The BE is cannibalizing at an alarming rate. We suspected this may happen.

[EaglesNest]

Yup, Seton Hall just won 87-81

[muguru]

Just an awful night for MU...watch Xavier without Sumner and Bluiett Saturday...beat MU. That Xavier team tonight was AWFUL. No reason MU should lose to them.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Just an awful night for MU...watch Xavier without Sumner and Bluiett Saturday...beat MU. That Xavier team tonight was AWFUL. No reason MU should lose to them.

Yes and no. Obviously we preferred to see Creighton and X win, but if MU takes care of business they are fine. Could theoretically catch X if they swept em.

[BM1090]

Just an awful night for MU...watch Xavier without Sumner and Bluiett Saturday...beat MU. That Xavier team tonight was AWFUL. No reason MU should lose to them.

Disagree. Other bubble results went our way. I'd rather Big East bubble teams win if some have to. We own a win over SHU and have a chance still against PC.

Agree we should beat X minus Bluiett. We need to win the next two.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Here are the remaining schedules for BE teams:

Villanova (12-2):
@ Creighton
vs. Butler
vs. Depaul
@ SJU


Butler (9-5):
vs. Depaul
@ Nova
@ X
vs. SHU


Creighton (8-5):
vs. Georgetown
vs. PC
@ NOVA
vs. SJU
@ Marquette


Xavier (8-5):
@ MU
@ SHU
vs. Butler
vs. MU
@ Depaul


SHU (6-7):
vs. Nova
vs. X
@ Depaul
vs. Georgetown
@ Butler


Marquette (6-7):
vs. X
vs. SJU
@ PC
@ X
vs. Creighton


PC (6-8):
@ Creighton
vs. MU
vs. Depaul
@ SJU


SJU (6-8):
@ Marquette
vs. Georgtown
@ Creighton
vs. PC


Georgetown (5-8):
@ Creighton
vs. Depaul
@ SJU
@ SHU
vs. Nova


Depaul (1-12):
@ Butler
@ Georgetown
vs. SHU
@ PC
vs. X

[Newsdreams]

Here are the remaining schedules for BE teams:

Villanova (12-2):
@ Creighton
vs. Marquette
vs. Depaul
@ SJU


Butler (9-5):
vs. Depaul
@ Nova
@ X
vs. SHU


Creighton (8-5):
vs. Georgetown
vs. PC
@ NOVA
vs. SJU
@ Marquette


Xavier (8-5):
@ MU
@ SHU
vs. Butler
vs. MU
@ Depaul


SHU (6-7):
vs. Nova
vs. X
@ Depaul
vs. Georgetown
@ Butler


Marquette (6-7):
vs. X
vs. SJU
@ PC
@ X
vs. Creighton


PC (6-8):
@ Creighton
vs. MU
vs. Depaul
@ SJU


SJU (6-8):
@ Marquette
vs. Georgtown
@ Creighton
vs. PC


Georgetown (5-8):
@ Creighton
vs. Depaul
@ SJU
@ SHU
vs. Nova


Depaul (1-12):
@ Butler
@ Georgetown
vs. SHU
@ PC
vs. X

oops

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

With Sagrin's projected finishes:


Villanova (12-2):
@ SHU - WIN
vs. Butler - WIN
vs. Creighton  - WIN
@ Georgetown - WIN

16-2


Butler (9-5):
vs. Depaul - WIN
@ Nova - LOSS
@ X - LOSS
vs. SHU - WIN

11-7


Creighton (8-5):
vs. Georgetown - WIN
vs. PC - WIN
@ NOVA - LOSS
vs. SJU - WIN
@ Marquette - WIN

12-6


Xavier (8-5):
@ MU - LOSS
@ SHU - WIN
vs. Butler - WIN
vs. MU - WIN
@ Depaul - WIN

12-6


SHU (6-7):
vs. Nova - LOSS
vs. X - LOSS
@ Depaul - WIN
vs. Georgetown - WIN
@ Butler - LOSS

8-10


Marquette (6-7):
vs. X - WIN
vs. SJU - WIN
@ PC - WIN (straight 50/50)
@ X - LOSS
vs. Creighton - LOSS

9-9


PC (6-8):
@ Creighton - LOSS
vs. MU - LOSS (straight 50/50)
vs. Depaul - WIN
@ SJU - WIN * Sagrin says 47% chance of W, but I am giving it to them

8-10


SJU (6-8):
@ Marquette - LOSS
vs. Georgetown - LOSS
@ Creighton - LOSS
vs. PC  - LOSS (Sagrin gives them 53% chance of winning, but giving PC the W to make things more interesting)

6-12


Georgetown (5-8):
@ Creighton - LOSS
vs. Depaul - WIN
@ SJU - WIN
@ SHU - LOSS
vs. Nova - LOSS

7-11


Depaul (1-12):
@ Butler - LOSS
@ Georgetown - LOSS
vs. SHU - LOSS
@ PC - LOSS
vs. X - LOSS

1-17

Final standings would look like:
Villanova 16-2
Xavier 12-6
Creighton 12-6
Butler 11-7
Marquette 9-9
Seton Hall 8-10
Providence 8 -10
Georgetown 7-11
St. Johns 6-12
Depaul 1-17

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Takeaways:

- Obviously our date with PC in Providence is going to be huge.  PC has two very winnable games to finish the year, and if we drop that one, it means we probably need to get Xavier at their place.  A PC win a Creighton on Saturday is going to make things very interesting.  Go Creighton!

- Sagrin likes X alot more than X is currently playing.  Cant see them finishing 4-1 down the stretch, but we need to kick them while they're down on Saturday.

-Creighton at home the final day of the season may be the difference between us sweating it out or being a bit more relaxed on Selection Sunday.

- Seton Hall still has three homes games against Nova, X and Georgetown and road game against Butler.  Tough road, but lots of opportunities for big wins. 

- Outside of home date with SJU, Georgetown has a gauntlet and is going to get knocked off the bubble pretty quick.

- Depaul sucks. 

- This thing is still wide the f**k open.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Creighton beat Georgetown, which helps us. Butler did their part against Depaul as well.

[Herman Cain]

Creighton and Butler winning good for league overall .  MU can control is destiny by winning out the rest of the schedule.

[cheese ball chaser]

So who are we pulling for tomorrow - X or SHU?