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Author Topic: Catholics vs. Convicts  (Read 4425 times)

MerrittsMustache

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Catholics vs. Convicts
« on: December 10, 2016, 10:22:51 PM »
Skip it. One of the more disappointing 30 for 30s that I can remember.

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2016, 07:16:06 AM »
i saw that last night while i was surfing but it was about half-way in and decided to skip it until i could see it from the beginning.  i've found most of the 30's to be pretty good.  you just saved me a couple of hours-thanks
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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2016, 07:24:17 AM »
Skip it. One of the more disappointing 30 for 30s that I can remember.

Worse than Rotisserie League baseball?

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2016, 01:49:58 PM »
Speaking of 30 for 30's, what are some of folks favs?

Really like the Fab Five, the Boz, the Baltimore Colts band, Gretzky, the U, the one about Chris Herren and the Two Escobars...any other must sees from the group?

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2016, 02:36:05 PM »
Speaking of 30 for 30's, what are some of folks favs?

Really like the Fab Five, the Boz, the Baltimore Colts band, Gretzky, the U, the one about Chris Herren and the Two Escobars...any other must sees from the group?

Two Escobars
The Best That Never Was (Marcus DuPree)
Once Brothers (Divac/Petrovic)
The Marinovich Project
Survive and Advance (Jim Valvano)
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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2016, 02:43:05 PM »
Speaking of 30 for 30's, what are some of folks favs?

Really like the Fab Five, the Boz, the Baltimore Colts band, Gretzky, the U, the one about Chris Herren and the Two Escobars...any other must sees from the group?

Duh, Untucked.
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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2016, 03:14:51 PM »
Two Escobars, Bernie and Ernie, and Guru of Go are all up there for me. Almost all of them are really well made so its hard to choose a favorite.

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2016, 05:16:56 PM »
Best one I've seen so far: Reggie Miller vs New York (don't recall the name)

Worst one I've seen so far: NWA and the LA Raiders (don't recall the name)

I've been wanting to watch the Duke LAX one, but haven't gotten around to it.

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2016, 05:59:32 PM »
Best one I've seen so far: Reggie Miller vs New York (don't recall the name)

Worst one I've seen so far: NWA and the LA Raiders (don't recall the name)

I've been wanting to watch the Duke LAX one, but haven't gotten around to it.



Matty, watch the duke LAX one, it's definitely worth while.
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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2016, 06:03:30 PM »
I have watched the majority of them and it is very hard to say the best.  90% have been very enjoyable and well documented with facts I was not aware of while watching.

- Without Bias (Len Bias story)
- Fantastic Lies (Duke Lacrosse)
- Brian and the Boz (Bosworth)
- Unguarded (Chris Herron)
- Elway to Marino (1983 draft)
- I hate  Christian Laettner
- Doc and Daryl (recent one which was very interesting, especially Doc Gooden spaced out on show)
- Hit It Hard (John Daly out of his mind)

So many to watch, go for a binge.........

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2016, 06:07:36 PM »
The 5-part O.J. Simpson one was very well done.

I was trying to explain to glow jr. just how crazy that entire story was, and when this came one, we watched it together.  ESPN did a great job of showing how popular O.J. was and how this crime seemed unimaginable to most people.
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2016, 07:53:30 PM »
chris herron, duke lacrosse, christian laettner, long johnny daley-i wish i could find his song(hit it hard) for a ring tone-anyone have any ideas?

  speakin of daly-he was in the PNC father-son golf outing in orlando this past weekend-lil' johnny(13 years old) is going to be a stud golfer.  hopefully, he took notes about his father's "weaknesses" and he'll be alright

http://golfweek.com/2016/12/09/john-daly-little-pnc-father-son-challenge/

also, the rest of the story you didn't hear in the 30-30

http://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-storyline-you-didnt-hear-in-john-dalys-espn-30-for-30
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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2016, 01:27:25 PM »
How long until we get a 30 for 30 on the 2016 Cubs?  (working title, "Breaking the Curse")

Do we have to wait 10 to 20 years for it or could it be less than 5 away?

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2016, 01:44:17 PM »
How long until we get a 30 for 30 on the 2016 Cubs?  (working title, "Breaking the Curse")

Do we have to wait 10 to 20 years for it or could it be less than 5 away?

I'm sure 100 "film makers" have something in the works but it'll be a while before we see a 30 for 30. We need to see how this all plays out first.

Do the Cubs go from Lovable Losers into a dynasty/model franchise?

Do they become the 90s Braves with a dozen division titles but only 1 WS?

Do they crash and burn completely from here? How does that change the perception?

How long does Theo stay in charge? Where does he go from there? Run for office? Disappear? Turn the Cleveland Browns into champions?

I could see a short on Theo's tear-down-rebuild, but too much of the story still has to be written before it can become a compelling 2-hour doc.

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2016, 01:46:24 PM »
Matty, watch the duke LAX one, it's definitely worth while.

Todd, thanks a lot.  I'll certainly watch it one of these days (but IIRC, it's over 2 hours long, which is why I've been so hesitant)

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2016, 02:36:15 PM »
Hit It Hard was extremely disappointing

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2016, 02:43:23 PM »
Hit It Hard was extremely disappointing

I wouldn't say that, I liked it.

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2016, 06:33:13 PM »
The best 30 for 30 I've seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmpRondWlKk

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2016, 01:12:33 PM »
How long until we get a 30 for 30 on the 2016 Cubs?  (working title, "Breaking the Curse")

Do we have to wait 10 to 20 years for it or could it be less than 5 away?

A worthwhile sequel to "Catching Hell," the 30 for 30 about Steve Bartman.

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2016, 01:37:09 PM »
I'm waiting for the 30 for 30 about a bartender/sports blogger who turned a cult following into a job at ESPN, built a multimedia empire and then watched it crumble because, much like the athletes he enjoyed ripping in his columns, his arrogance got the best of him and he began mailing it in, thinking he could do no wrong.

"Yup...These are My Readers" - the story of 30 for 30 creator Bill Simmons.


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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2016, 02:22:26 PM »
Agreed with many of these comments. 

On C vs. C, weird how the guy who was the ostensible focus of the documentary - "Walshie" - stayed clear of the t -shirt which generated all of the controversy.

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2016, 02:31:51 PM »
Agreed with many of these comments. 

On C vs. C, weird how the guy who was the ostensible focus of the documentary - "Walshie" - stayed clear of the t -shirt which generated all of the controversy.

Not to mention Walshie didn't even come up with the saying Catholics vs Convicts. Oh, and he came across as a smarmy douche.


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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2016, 04:24:07 PM »
I'm sure 100 "film makers" have something in the works but it'll be a while before we see a 30 for 30. We need to see how this all plays out first.

Do the Cubs go from Lovable Losers into a dynasty/model franchise?

Do they become the 90s Braves with a dozen division titles but only 1 WS?

Do they crash and burn completely from here? How does that change the perception?

How long does Theo stay in charge? Where does he go from there? Run for office? Disappear? Turn the Cleveland Browns into champions?

I could see a short on Theo's tear-down-rebuild, but too much of the story still has to be written before it can become a compelling 2-hour doc.

This.  There is nothing more maddening to me than a too early documentary.  Time needs to past to truly get all of the facts and put things in perspective.  I remember watching VH1's in the mid nineties (yes,  showing my age) Behind the Music on 70's acts and they were fantastic.  Then seeing one about a 90's band... that is simply too early.  The full story hasn't been written yet.

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2016, 04:26:45 PM »
One more to add to the list:  The Liverpool Hillsborough disaster.  I am a Liverpool supporter but even non soccer fans can enjoy the justice/lack of justice in this one.

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Re: Catholics vs. Convicts
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2016, 04:54:12 PM »
One more to add to the list:  The Liverpool Hillsborough disaster.  I am a Liverpool supporter but even non soccer fans can enjoy the justice/lack of justice in this one.

So well done, still has an impact in the U.K. There are court proceedings going on to this day.

 

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