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Newsdreams

Quote from: Johnny B on December 10, 2016, 05:33:58 PM
Excuse me. I mean his first year at MU
Don't agree his best stats so far this year, his problem he is too slow on D out of position too often.
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

manny31

Players have good games, they have bad games. Coaches have good games, coaches have bad games. Wojo had a worse game than Sam. Sam is a Freshman, Wojo is a red-shirt Junior.

warriorfan 14

folks keep saying we need to upgrade the talent but i don't know what more we can do. this team is full of top 100 recruits. we have recruited some of the best in-state talent. either these kids are overhyped (in that case the talent evaluation skills of our recruiters isn't up to par), are just plain busts, or the players do not develop (ex: duane, looked great his freshman year, but really hasn't drastically improved....maybe somewhat defensively).

i'm not going to look it up but i bet that there are more top 100 players on this team than the team that made the elite 8 under buzz

T-Bone

I feel like Cheat took a step in the right direction with coming out of his slump.
Sam had an off day, he's a fresh.
Howard played fearless, he'll have some great games.
Where was JJJ in the 2nd?
I'm like a turtle, sometimes I get run over by a semi.

Big Papi

This was what?  Game number 10 and we still have huge defensive issues. On top of defensive issues that we have had the last 2 years. They exploited the pick and roll over and over again.  And when they didn't, they just took it right by the defender.  Way too many layups.  Way to many open shots.   

Either (1) Wojo doesn't know how to coach defense
         (2) Wojo's defensive message to the players is not getting through
         (3) Wojo's defensive schemes are just bad

Don't know but that is all on coaching.  Why not pack it in defensively, go into a zone or some other defensive scheme?  There was like 2 plays that the Badgers were running all game long and we were unable to stop them.

Besides that, Howard is a stud.  He will be viewed as one of the best players ever to wear a MU uniform.

brandx

Quote from: tower912 on December 10, 2016, 03:16:36 PM
   
2.   Happ is better than Luke.    His play turned the game at the start of the second half.     
10.  Duane needs a shot to fall so that he can spend more time on the floor.   His on-ball defense is the best on the team. 
11.  When you can't get a blatant elbowing call at home.......  The ghost of Bo lingers.   The refs DID NOT cost this game.   But that call was flat out atrocious.   And the Badger players can still whine and plead with the best.


1. We all knew before the game that Happ was better than Luke.

10. Duane is awful on offense right now.

11. Maybe there shoulda been a 'T' for the elbow, but the foul was clearly on Howard. Great effort though.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: brandx on December 10, 2016, 06:23:04 PM
1. We all knew before the game that Happ was better than Luke.

10. Duane is awful on offense right now.

11. Maybe there shoulda been a 'T' for the elbow, but the foul was clearly on Howard. Great effort though.

11. Did his face foul his elbow?

GGGG

My understanding is that a player is allowed to move within their cylinder and any contact is the fault of the defender. I would blame the rule. Not the ref.

MU82

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on December 10, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
Cohen would have helped us win a couple games by scrappy defense and today was a game he would have made an impact on.

1. Congrats for being too stupid to realize that keefe was yanking your chain.

2. Congrats for the Warriors losing. Otherwise you wouldn't have been able to be the happy whiner again.

3. Seriously, what does "Wojo doesn't have their backs" even mean ... besides you being good at spewing meaningless cliches?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

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muhoops1

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on December 10, 2016, 03:21:20 PM
Wojo was the reason we lost today. Does not have the players back.

Seriously, what does this mean?  Explain please.

CTWarrior

Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on December 10, 2016, 03:37:00 PM

He cant guard pick and roll cause he is slow.


But he can't guard a traditional low post player, either.  He's just not a very good defender.

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Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on December 10, 2016, 03:52:18 PM
Someone said this earlier but I think Wojo is going to recruit more quicker bigs like John in the future. Even if it means sacrificing some size.

This guy did. And yes. Wojo is learning.
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GGGG

Quote from: CTWarrior on December 10, 2016, 07:14:29 PM
But he can't guard a traditional low post player, either.  He's just not a very good defender.


And when he is your only decent big guy, you are going to get killed at the rim.

jesmu84

Quote from: CTWarrior on December 10, 2016, 07:14:29 PM
But he can't guard a traditional low post player, either.  He's just not a very good defender.

I think he can. He just needs to be much more aggressive. But he is also afraid of failing as he knows that leads to serious lack of height on the team.

CTWarrior

Quote from: jesmu84 on December 10, 2016, 07:29:23 PM
I think he can. He just needs to be much more aggressive. But he is also afraid of failing as he knows that leads to serious lack of height on the team.

You have a good point here and I think you are absolutely correct,  but it doesn't change the fact that a dump down to a competent low post player is usually two points for the opposition.  That can't continue if we are to be successful.  If we are going to continue to have Luke play hands up defense, we have to double down more or something to help him out.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Newsdrms on December 10, 2016, 05:32:37 PM
Luke barely played his freshman year....

Yeah, he had surgery on his shoulder.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

mayfairskatingrink

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Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on December 10, 2016, 03:28:23 PM
This had nothing to do with Wojo. This had everything to do with a bigger and more experienced team.

Luke is just getting abused in pick and roll. And MU didn't extend it like the have previously. But he is slow and just can't guard in space. What can Wojo do? There is no other size on the team. A guy like Eke is going to be real asset next year to protect the rim in those situations.
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I'll believe it when i see it.

Johnny B

Why luke hasn't bulked up over the years is beyond me. hes like a tall stick out there. Happ  and other stronger bigs shove him around. Look at the builds of outule ochefu etc. you need be tough. play with a chip on your shoulder

Marcus92

Too many turnovers, but I actually don't think that was the reason we lost. We only had 12 for the game, versus 9 for Wisconsin.

This was our worst defensive performance of the season. Wisconsin shot 65% on 2-pointers and 44% from beyond the arc. Can't blame Luke alone for the total breakdown of pick-and-roll defense. It takes two players. Hannif tried everything he could, but simply couldn't guard Bronson Koenig. The Badgers set good screens all over the court, ran the pick-and-roll to perfection and exploited every opportunity.

KenPom now ranks our offense 3rd best in the Big East. Our defense: 8th. Not good. That might still be good enough for a 5th place conference finish and an NCAA bid. But hopefully this game serves as a wake-up call for the team.
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GoldenDieners32

JJJ needs to step up. KR needs to play with that energy every game

mayfairskatingrink

Quote from: fjm on December 10, 2016, 05:32:23 PM
YAWN. MUFINY is a dummy, PFheros whatever dude.

Was at the game. An awesome crowd (yes many UW fans but I was at the UW game last year and there were plenty MU fans).

The team needs to stop being flat in second half. I told my friend "we are going to lose because we play flat early in the second half."
Blame Wojo all you want, but if you want to blame him for recruiting a team that was beating a team that is starting 4 seniors with multiple final four appearances... then good for you MUFINY and PFheros. Buy yourself a Kentucky shirt so we don't have to listen to your sappy WHOA IS ME, BUZZ WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP AND CREAN IS SECOND COMING OF CHRIST. Take your negativity elsewhere.

Face it... we are young and played against hard against a team that is MUCH better than their #17 rank.
Thought we did quite well.

Losing by 9 at home is "doing quite well?"

MU bball has truly turned into an irrelevant program.

Johnny B


How do you explain Butlers success???? a bunch of 3 and boarder line 4 star recruits. not very athletic but still they are pretty damn good.

GGGG

Quote from: Johnny B on December 10, 2016, 08:01:49 PM
How do you explain Butlers success???? a bunch of 3 and boarder line 4 star recruits. not very athletic but still they are pretty damn good.


Consistency.  Since Licklighter took the job in '01, they have promoted from within and had the same philosophy.  They know the types of guys they want, target them and they perform.

Marquette has to be patient.  Running guys out of here isn't going to help. 

Dr. Blackheart

When does Wojo find his defense? 

MarquetteDano

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 10, 2016, 08:08:08 PM
When does Wojo find his defense?

Maybe during the offseason he will find a good defensive minded assistant. Get some experience  on that staff instead.of a.bunch of 30-somethings.

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