Bucking fadgers thoughts

[tower912]

1.  JjJ and HC were dreadful today.  But maybe HC found something down the stretch.   
2.   Happ is better than Luke.    His play turned the game at the start of the second half. 
3.  MU played as well as it could in the first half.    Unable to sustain and the Badgers are good. 
4.  Sam played like a freshman up against the big state school today.    Learning experience.   He will get better. 
5.  MU is too small to guard a whole bunch of these guys straight up.  Double down, kick out, open shot, boom. 
6.   16-0 run.  32-10 overall the first 10 minutes of the second half.   At home.   Nobody running any offense or getting the ball in to Fischer.   Easy to blame Wojo, but the players have to run the offense.   And play defense.   And not make stupid, lazy passes or stupid, lazy fouls.   And go after defensive rebounds. 
7.   FWIW, I had big loss in the poll.   
8.  KR saved us in the first half.   Less so in the second.   
9.  My 9-year-old....  " Dad, I played better defense than that today."
10.  Duane needs a shot to fall so that he can spend more time on the floor.   His on-ball defense is the best on the team. 
11.  When you can't get a blatant elbowing call at home.......  The ghost of Bo lingers.   The refs DID NOT cost this game.   But that call was flat out atrocious.   And the Badger players can still whine and plead with the best. 
12.   But the team didn't quit.   26 solid minutes,   14 crap minutes. 
13.  Hayes, Koenig, Happ are a really good trio.  Talented, experienced, leaders.   
14.   An old fashioned butt kicking.     
15.  Someone needs to emerge as a leader.   Howard obviously will be and is trying now.   But an upperclassman really needs to grow a pair. 

 Positives:   KR hit some shots.   HC found his game late.   The stage did not look too big for Howard.  Scored 80+ against Wisconsin.
Negatives:   Lack of size, lack of leadership, no one grabbing the reins when things go sideways.   Gave up 90+ to Wisconsin. 

[forgetful]

15 is a big problem.  I think SwaggyDu could be the person, but so many better scorers makes it difficult for him to assert himself....right now leaderless. 

[Herman Cain]

Wojo was the reason we lost today. Does not have the players back.

[warriorfan 14]

1. howard is a keeper
2. hauser couldn't get a call
3. happ abused fisher
4. their seniors played well, with the exception of reinhardt ours were terrible
5. another big game that is lost. this team will fight to make the nit. very disappointing.
6. yet another meltdown that wojo cannot correct. pretty consistent theme.
7. at least our youngsters seem more talented than buckys. whether that translates into anything in the future i have no idea.
8. i have basically zero confidence in a wojo coached team

[wadesworld]

Wojo was the reason we lost today. Does not have the players back.

You're an idiot.

[tower912]

Wojo was the reason we lost today. Does not have the players back.

Bullsh!t.   The players played in the first half.    The players stood around for 12 minutes of the second half.    On both ends of the floor.   

[wadesworld]

1. howard is a keeper
2. hauser couldn't get a call
3. happ abused fisher
4. their seniors played well, with the exception of reinhardt ours were terrible
5. another big game that is lost. this team will fight to make the nit. very disappointing.
6. yet another meltdown that wojo cannot correct. pretty consistent theme.
7. at least our youngsters seem more talented than buckys. whether that translates into anything in the future i have no idea.
8. i have basically zero confidence in a wojo coached team

Is it Wojo's fault Sam had 0, JJJ had 4, Cheatham had maybe 2 prior to the game being decided, and Luke's matchup had more impact on the game than Luke did despite Luke playing the full game while his matchup played half the game?

[forgetful]

Let's be honest.  The stat on consecutive games started, with those players being a part of probably the best era in UW history, compared to MU's consecutive games started.  Starting two freshman, against a senior dominated team with FF experience.

We lost by only 9, if we had an on floor leader who could have taken over and calmed things down during the 16-0 run, we would have had a shot.  That alone is impressive.  People expecting much more are delusional. 

[GGGG]

This had nothing to do with Wojo. This had everything to do with a bigger and more experienced team.

Luke is just getting abused in pick and roll. And MU didn't extend it like the have previously. But he is slow and just can't guard in space. What can Wojo do? There is no other size on the team. A guy like Eke is going to be real asset next year to protect the rim in those situations.

[PGsHeroes32]

Keep Wojo for recruiting

Find someone to actually coach

[tower912]

When Wisconsin started their run, that is when Luke needs to demand the ball.   When Haanif or JjJ need to step up and commit to getting a good shot or making a big defensive stop.    That is how Lazar, Jae, Jimmy, DJO, Vander, DJames, Jerel, Wes did it.  That is why they are looked upon as legends.    Not by pouting and making stupid passes and fouls and whining when they don't get a call and getting beat down the floor.   

[rocky_warrior]

Disagree with #3.  First half was good, but too many stupid turnovers by MU.

[warriorfan 14]

fisher has been here how long and he still can't guard a pick and roll? that is coaching

the team starts playing poorly and all our guys panic. wojo has consistently been unable to correct this. he is a terrible game manager and cannot correct things our team is doing wrong. i agree with the statement that we can keep him around (as a head coach) to recruit. find someone else who can coach the games

[nyg]

Hauser, zero points and one shot taken.  That being 20 seconds into game
JJJ had 4 points and 3 turnovers and was on/off the bench like a hockey player.
Rowsey is explosive.
Glad to see Cheatham get it going in second half, brutal in first.
Reinhardt bailed out MU in first, but no basket in second, only free throws.

UW is very good with Happ in there.  Senior leadership and very well coached. 

Losing leads in second half is contagious, MU needs to find a way to hold. 

MU will need a big man next year in worst way.  Once Luke is gone, Heldt is not the answer.  Even with all of Wisky's height, he hardly saw the floor. Otherwise, expect the same results.  Onto the cupcakes and get it back together.

[DJO's Jaw]

Wojo was the reason we lost today. Does not have the players back.

Dude, just go away if you are just going to keep spewing nonsense

[GGGG]

fisher has been here how long and he still can't guard a pick and roll? that is coaching

the team starts playing poorly and all our guys panic. wojo has consistently been unable to correct this. he is a terrible game manager and cannot correct things our team is doing wrong. i agree with the statement that we can keep him around (as a head coach) to recruit. find someone else who can coach the games

He cant guard pick and roll cause he is slow.

Not every loss is Wojo's fault. And people who come here after every loss on Wojo are a joke. He subbed in players like Duane and Katin who carried us in the first half. He went back to JJJ even though he played like junk most of the game. He even went small at the end.

You can blame Wojo for putting together a team that was too small to take on UW. There was not much he could have done today.

[dgies9156]

Down boys.

1) They are an experienced, senior-led team. We're not.
2) The way things went in the first half -- we were working extremely hard against a talented team -- showed we were going to have problems when the Rodent got his second wind. He did and we were toast.
3) Blame it on Wojo -- are you kidding me? The guy is a keeper and he'll get us there. But anyone who hoped for a deep tournament run (including the BE tournament) better wait a year.
4) Hauser proved to us he is a freshman.
5) I can only imagine how good we would be if Henry had stayed... but he didn't and so....

[GGGG]

Markus Howard can really f*cking play. Defensively he is fearless.

[warriorfan 14]

Down boys.

1) They are an experienced, senior-led team. We're not.
2) The way things went in the first half -- we were working extremely hard against a talented team -- showed we were going to have problems when the Rodent got his second wind. He did and we were toast.
3) Blame it on Wojo -- are you kidding me? The guy is a keeper and he'll get us there. But anyone who hoped for a deep tournament run (including the BE tournament) better wait a year.
4) Hauser proved to us he is a freshman.
5) I can only imagine how good we would be if Henry had stayed... but he didn't and so....

on number 4: yes we need to wait a year, and then another year, and then another........

[AlumKCof93]

The team played really hard today but to offset lack of size, they have to play hard nosed consistent defense.  Jjj's was terrible today and Reinhardt was just as bad.  KR hit shots in first half but was awful in second half.  When your seniors can't play defense in a huge rivalry game, it's hard to win.

[warriorstrack]

This had nothing to do with Wojo. This had everything to do with a bigger and more experienced team.

Luke is just getting abused in pick and roll. And MU didn't extend it like the have previously. But he is slow and just can't guard in space. What can Wojo do? There is no other size on the team. A guy like Eke is going to be real asset next year to protect the rim in those situations.

This willl be a constant theme going forward

[dgies9156]

on number 4: yes we need to wait a year, and then another year, and then another........

I think you are referring to number 3, but did you really think we were ready for the big time this year?

I still believe we're a tournament team, but we will not go deep. I think this team needs to grow and I trust it will. If we are playing in March like we did today, then perhaps Wojo needs to feel some warmth. But we have a lot of basketball left to play and we do have talent.

[GGGG]

This willl be a constant theme going forward

Someone said this earlier but I think Wojo is going to recruit more quicker bigs like John in the future. Even if it means sacrificing some size.

[Earl Tatum]

Tower 912 had the best summary

[Lennys Tap]

Markus Howard can really f*cking play. Defensively he is fearless.

According to Wades he's our worst PG (behind Traci and Rowsey) on the offensive end. LOL