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chapman

Wilson should be the first or second option on this team.  Refuse to believe he's regressed to the eighth man in the rotation.  I stand by my opinion from last year that he's the one who should be taking the final shot, yet he's not even on the floor. 

tower912

Among all of the debatable coaching moves, that one is the most difficult to understand.  That last time out, I had mentally put Duane in the game and was already planning the 4 guard motion.  When doogie came out, u knew we were in trouble.

Duane has to be on the floor at that point.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

willie warrior

Wojo has head up his kielbasa.
Wilson averaged over 11 ppg as a frosh with several high scoring games. Now he is gettin about 14 minutes. Just plain idiocy.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 18, 2016, 07:01:26 PM
Probably, and we're probably too down on them now.

yes and great point rock.  4 games in and the fat lady's singing?  i think we all need a little cooling off period by re-opening the politics for a little anger management, eyn'er?

in all seriousness, i am hoping to reference some of the doomsday stuff here in march.  this is sounding like the "score" on a late sunday afternoon. we definitely have some work to do and the word quit ain't in wojo's vocabularythis was one thatgot away.  now we have to go out and win one that we weren't expected to win.  especially in late february/early march when.  come on guys, we don't want to peak too early

how does that go again?  ya don't know whatcha got 'till it's gone...
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

tower912

Rocket, you are not as far off base as usual.    It is a long season.   In back to back games, we lost to a surprisingly good team we matched up poorly with and blew a late lead against a team that is basically the same as we are.    Our weaknesses were exposed.     Wojo isn't going to quit and isn't going to get fired.    So, back to the drawing board and time to examine some pre-conceived notions about the rotation and the defense. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Class71

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on November 18, 2016, 05:39:56 PM
Coaching is horrible.
Pitt not very good at all, we are worse.  After watching the Gavitt games we are way behind the top and middle of conference.

Agreed. Offense is 1) drive until stopped then throw a Hail Mary, 2) chuck a 3 as soon as you get the ball, 3) give to Fish and hope for the best and 4) repeat again and again after each failure. Can someone explain shot selection, dribble drive and outlet passing? Also how about guards who guard their man? Who is held accountable? Can anyone watch a top ten team film and learn something. What do we go over in practice? It is no clear to me what fundamentals have been taught in 3 years.
⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵

Eldon

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 18, 2016, 07:10:19 PM
Too early for a change, BUT, does anyone know what Cuonzo Martin did that resulted in him reportedly "bombing" his interview when he was THE candidate? He seems to be doing pretty well, especially as it pertains to recruiting, at Cal thus far. I'm not saying he is the answer but am curious as to why a NCAA tournament head coach had the job and instead MU went with an assistant from a program with a solid track record of turning out assistants that are mediocre coaches (Snyder, Henderson, Collins, Dawkins).

IIRC, it's not that Cuonzo bombed as much as it was that Wojo was hyper-enthusiastic and blew everyone's socks off in the interview.  All that glitters is not gold, I suppose.

I was ambivalent about Cuonzo, stoked about Howland, and disappointed with the choice of Wojo.  Wojo's recruiting ability eventually softened the blow a bit, but everything else on his end has been lacking,the most salient of which has been his lack of leadership. 

rocket surgeon

Quote from: tower912 on November 18, 2016, 07:39:30 PM
Rocket, you are not as far off base as usual.    It is a long season.   In back to back games, we lost to a surprisingly good team we matched up poorly with and blew a late lead against a team that is basically the same as we are.    Our weaknesses were exposed.     Wojo isn't going to quit and isn't going to get fired.    So, back to the drawing board and time to examine some pre-conceived notions about the rotation and the defense.

Ya know that old saying about blind squirrels?   ;D

   This one hurt.  We had it!  I liked the fire our guys showed in the 2nd half yesterday and thought it would carry over.  We actually weren't that far off from pulling out a real "eye opener".  A few more 3's a rebound, a steal, a lucky bounce, hey, maybe even a call our way...

We don't know what went on behind closed doors yesterday.  There are a lot of temptations in the big city. Not trying to start anything but last time I checked, no one in here was a fly on the wall.  Lessons learned, get pissed off and we could see a whole different team over the next 10 games.  Nothing worse than a basketball player scorned
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

bradley center bat

Quote from: warriorstrack on November 18, 2016, 05:52:17 PM
I would love to see a start to finish well executed game plan this Tuesday.  MU can definitely make a move this season, I see a lot of potential, but it needs to manifest itself on the court.  IUPUI blasted Howard today, they aren't going away easy on Tuesday.
IUPUI took Marquette to overtime last year.

ecompt

Quote from: tower912 on November 18, 2016, 07:39:30 PM
Rocket, you are not as far off base as usual.    It is a long season.   In back to back games, we lost to a surprisingly good team we matched up poorly with and blew a late lead against a team that is basically the same as we are.    Our weaknesses were exposed.     Wojo isn't going to quit and isn't going to get fired.    So, back to the drawing board and time to examine some pre-conceived notions about the rotation and the defense.

So you're saying Wojo keeps his job even with, say, a 6-12 BE record? Don't think so.

GGGG

Quote from: ecompt on November 18, 2016, 08:01:21 PM
So you're saying Wojo keeps his job even with, say, a 6-12 BE record? Don't think so.


Yes.  He is signed through 2020.  He gets at least one more year beyond this one.

tower912

5 years.  14-15 probably doesn't count according to the administration.
So, no, his seat remains cool.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

RJax55

Quote from: tower912 on November 18, 2016, 07:39:30 PM
Rocket, you are not as far off base as usual.    It is a long season.   In back to back games, we lost to a surprisingly good team we matched up poorly with and blew a late lead against a team that is basically the same as we are.    Our weaknesses were exposed.     Wojo isn't going to quit and isn't going to get fired.    So, back to the drawing board and time to examine some pre-conceived notions about the rotation and the defense.

Tower, you're a level-headed guy, but its getting difficult to overlook the issues with the Wojo regime. I don't see the growth as a game coach.

Yes, it is early in the season, but he has no clue on a rotation or roles. Just look at the point guard situation. Tonight, Rowsey was the third PG to play, but yet in crunch time, we are running iso plays for him? Really?

And, what about player development? JJJ still has no left hand. Maddening. How many times tonight did he get into the lane and had a chance to finish with the left, but instead spun back middle into the d? At least four. Even Junior Cadougan had a functional left hand by his senior year.


tower912

Thanks.  I am neither blind nor oblivious.  Read some of my criticisms about toughness and rotations.  I don't know if it will get better.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.


wadesworld

1) More Rowsey, Hauser, and Duane, less Katin and JJJ.
2) Wojo waited too long to switch Hauser onto young.
3) Get IUPUI Tuesday.

RJax55

Quote from: tower912 on November 18, 2016, 08:11:19 PM
Thanks.  I am neither blind nor oblivious.  Read some of my criticisms about toughness and rotations.  I don't know if it will get better.

I know. Just getting some frustrations out and seriously thinking that Wojo may not be the guy to get this going again.

ecompt

Quote from: tower912 on November 18, 2016, 08:05:17 PM
5 years.  14-15 probably doesn't count according to the administration.
So, no, his seat remains cool.

You're probably right. But I wonder if all those empty seats in January and February will hasten his departure.

mileskishnish72

I've been very supportive of Wojo to date. I am, however, starting to get annoyed. I remember having doubts about the downhome lonesome cowboy and his in-game adjustments but he was much more responsive than Wojo. I'm not sure how all this is going to work out. It's like he sees things going to hell right before his eyes and does nothing about it. It's like he's in a catatonic state.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: GB Warrior on November 18, 2016, 05:37:15 PM
I don't think it is, but in my opinion, Wojo's seat should be getting warm. Two inexcusable losses for different reasons, but just poor roster management pervasive in both

How are loses on neutral courts to teams ranked the same level as you "inexcusable"?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

I think its funny that people are blaming Wojo for the defense on Michael Young. He had a solid first half with 11 points. Nothing dominating and we were up 11. Not many adjustments needed to be made. Young all of the sudden got hot after the 12 minute TV timeout. He scored 12 points in 3 minutes. Between timeouts. There is not many adjustments that Wojo can make while the game is going on. They found a weakness and exploited it. After the timeout, Wojo made adjustments, Luke was guarding Young much more aggressively. He didn't score another 2P FG. He did drain a three pointer, but the kid hit all of 4 of them last season. I don't really blame em for giving him that look.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: tower912 on November 18, 2016, 07:17:15 PM
Among all of the debatable coaching moves, that one is the most difficult to understand.  That last time out, I had mentally put Duane in the game and was already planning the 4 guard motion.  When doogie came out, u knew we were in trouble.

Duane has to be on the floor at that point.

This is the one I questioned the most as well. Duane seemed to be the only one besides Rowsey having any sort of success getting past their defense. Not sure why he didn't get more run at the end.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


rocket surgeon

Quote from: ecompt on November 18, 2016, 08:01:21 PM
So you're saying Wojo keeps his job even with, say, a 6-12 BE record? Don't think so.

wait a second, who said anything about 6-12?  last time i checked, our record was 2-2.  if it's 6-12 by the end of feb., we'll talk about 6-12.  can't put he ponies before the chuckwagon
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

brewcity77

Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 18, 2016, 10:00:08 PM
wait a second, who said anything about 6-12?  last time i checked, our record was 2-2.  if it's 6-12 by the end of feb., we'll talk about 6-12.  can't put he ponies before the chuckwagon

Actually, it's 0-0. Big East play hasn't started yet.

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