Author Topic: Rockhurst Takeaways (Read 15757 times)

brewcity77 · « **on:** November 05, 2016, 03:18:49 PM »

What can you really take away from a game like this? Not a ton. Simply too weak an opponent. So here's the few things that I think might be meaningful:

Lots of shooters: We legitimately have 9 guys with a chance to score from deep. When the team has an off night from three it will be ugly, but those will likely be few and far between simply because we have so many guys that can put it in the basket beyond the arc.
Offensive boards will be tough: For the most part, we only kept one guy down low on the offensive glass, usually Luke, Matt, or Sam. Every now and again, someone would flash in for a board, but more often than not it was 3-4 defenders surrounding our one guy. We will likely struggle with second chance points.
Defensive boards may be manageable: Okay, we overwhelmed the inferior opponent, but I saw some real effort to get to the defensive glass from guys like Rowsey, Johnson, and Carter. The whole team rebounding thing might work. I don't think we'll be a good rebounding team, but if the effort is there, we may not be as bad as many fear.
Deep rotation: I know, this is tough to really say definitively, but I think we will have 11 scholarship players and all 11 will get some minutes. They won't all get a lot, but the "end of the bench" guys tonight were Rowsey, Duane, and Sandy, all of whom have averaged 20+ mpg for entire seasons. I think Wojo is going to go deep into his bench more often than not.
Fun to watch: With lots of shooters, lots of ball movement, and active hands on defense, this team will at times be very fun to watch and has the potential to really play an entertaining brand of basketball. One caveat, however, is that when the shots aren't falling and guys are overreaching for steals and coming up empty (think Jajuan his first two years) we will have games where we are really frustrating to watch as well. That said, I think we'll rarely be boring.
Sam: Okay...after games like this (and frankly most cupcakes) I try not to make too many individual player analyses because of the competition level. But that said, I think Sam is really going to be a player. He's incredibly active all over the court. Good movement both on and off the ball. Can block shots and get to balls on defense, has a beautiful stroke from deep, in a couple years he's the guy opposing teams will be saying "hasn't that ******* graduated yet?" I really think we're going to love him.

fjm · « **Reply #1 on:** November 05, 2016, 03:29:33 PM »

Awesome brew! Thanks for the mini analysis. Only 6 days until the games count.. Can't wait.

CAGASS24 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 05, 2016, 04:00:00 PM »

Totally boiled down thoughts- we are better than last year no doubt - And id probabky say at every position (are Reinhardt and Sam individually better than Ellenson - not sure id say that but it ain't that far and combined I'd say we are still better at the 4-

Nukem2 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 05, 2016, 04:08:46 PM »

Was at the game and agree with brew. MU really passes and shoots the ball well. Thought the defense was rather iffy especially considering the opponent. Markus Howard is a very nice offensive player, but his defense was not good.

wadesworld · « **Reply #4 on:** November 05, 2016, 04:17:41 PM »

My thoughts:

1) We didn't lose.
2) Let'a see what we look like Friday.

brewcity77 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 05, 2016, 04:18:05 PM »

Quote from: Nukem2 on November 05, 2016, 04:08:46 PM

Was at the game and agree with brew. MU really passes and shoots the ball well. Thought the defense was rather iffy especially considering the opponent. Markus Howard is a very nice offensive player, but his defense was not good.

I'll be interested to see the defense. Early on, it seemed like Rockhurst was getting a ton of open looks from deep. My hope was maybe they knew Rockhurst wasn't a great longball team, but if it was unintentional (and it probably was), then there's definitely work to be done.

I do think this will go hand in hand with the "fun to watch", though sometimes it will be more fun for the neutrals but frustrating for us. Considering the size of this team, I could see some zone working because so many players are interchangeable. Didn't seem like they really want to play that way, but when Rockhurst was moving the ball well our guys got crossed up in man which led to some of those open looks.

rocky_warrior · « **Reply #6 on:** November 05, 2016, 04:35:08 PM »

Highlights for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9rLEbGeWSU

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/A9rLEbGeWSU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/A9rLEbGeWSU</a>

Dr. Blackheart · « **Reply #7 on:** November 05, 2016, 05:08:04 PM »

Real Chili Fix achieved
30-0 on points off turnovers. 'Nuff said
Thought the small line up looked good
Rowsey and Hauser will be starting situationally at some point

HutchwasClutch · « **Reply #8 on:** November 05, 2016, 05:20:01 PM »

I thought two of the three fouls called on Franklin were crap. The third one especially.

We were playing such an overmatched team today, you can't take away much more from today.

Windyplayer · « **Reply #9 on:** November 05, 2016, 05:26:20 PM »

The uniforms look great in action. Looking forward to Friday.

Dr. Blackheart · « **Reply #10 on:** November 05, 2016, 05:51:15 PM »

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 05, 2016, 05:20:01 PM

I thought two of the three fouls called on Franklin were crap. The third one especially.

We were playing such an overmatched team today, you can't take away much more from today.

You have to admit, three fouls in three minutes is impressive.

HutchwasClutch · « **Reply #11 on:** November 05, 2016, 06:08:06 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 05, 2016, 05:51:15 PM

You have to admit, three fouls in three minutes is impressive.

Yes, he did make efficient use of his minutes with activity

Eldon · « **Reply #12 on:** November 05, 2016, 06:14:23 PM »

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 05, 2016, 04:35:08 PM

Highlights for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9rLEbGeWSU

Thanks for posting.

1) Uniforms look badass
2) Love the passes

jsglow · « **Reply #13 on:** November 05, 2016, 06:38:34 PM »

1) We have numerous guys who can shoot.

2) Both our Frosh are ballplayers immediately.

3) Luke needs to eliminate useless fouls many feet from the rim.

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #14 on:** November 05, 2016, 06:40:17 PM »

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/marq/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2016-17/box_score/stats_20161105aaa.pdf

Box Score

muwarrior69 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 05, 2016, 06:55:42 PM »

Quote from: wadesworld on November 05, 2016, 04:17:41 PM

My thoughts:

1) We didn't lose.
2) Let'a see what we look like Friday.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Marcus92 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 05, 2016, 07:50:05 PM »

Encouraging
• Good ball movement, passing, shot selection, offensive balance
• 42.9 3PT%, 67.6 eFG%, 29 assists, just 5 turnovers
• 7 players hitting at least 1 3PT
• 6 double-figure scorers, 11 players with 13+ minutes
• High pace, energy and effort throughout
• Freshmen not playing like freshmen
• Markus Howard scoring 17 points in 18 minutes, 4-6 3PT
• Sam Hauser doing a little of everything: 12 points, 6 rebounds, 3 steals
• 22 rebounds for Hauser, Duane Wilson, Haanif Cheatham and Sandy Cohen
• JaJuan Johnson driving the lane at will and dishing 6 assists
• Matt Heldt playing 16 minutes
• Active, harassing man-to-man defense, good help
• Nobody injured

Concerning
• Luke Fischer with 2 first half fouls, just 13 minutes played overall
• Fischer and Heldt combining for just 12 points, 6 rebounds
• Maybe too many 3s? (39% of all FGA)
• Missing too many FT (10-16)

I don't read too much into an exhibition against an overmatched Division II school. It was fun to watch. Can't wait for Friday night to see what this team looks like for real.

bilsu · « **Reply #17 on:** November 05, 2016, 08:08:16 PM »

Looking at the box score two things stood out to me that I did not realize during the game. JJJ had 6 assists and Reinhardt had zero rebounds.

Nukem2 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 05, 2016, 08:41:18 PM »

Quote from: bilsu on November 05, 2016, 08:08:16 PM

Looking at the box score two things stood out to me that I did not realize during the game. JJJ had 6 assists and Reinhardt had zero rebounds.

You could not tell all those JJ assists? What game were you watching? He had several others that's guys did not finish.

Galway Eagle · « **Reply #19 on:** November 05, 2016, 08:42:17 PM »

Was listening on the radio and they were saying that there's reason to believe Johnson could lead the team in assists

Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist · « **Reply #20 on:** November 05, 2016, 08:45:25 PM »

Cupcake or not... only 5 turnovers as a team is impressive.

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #21 on:** November 05, 2016, 08:49:59 PM »

Quote from: Hold the Ellenson on November 05, 2016, 08:45:25 PM

Cupcake or not... only 5 turnovers as a team is impressive.

At least one of them was an offensive foul which is forgivable. Love the ball control

Marcus92 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 05, 2016, 08:50:07 PM »

Quote from: Hold the Ellenson on November 05, 2016, 08:45:25 PM

Cupcake or not... only 5 turnovers as a team is impressive.

DePaul gave away 21 possessions against Rockhurst, and the two teams combined for a whopping 45 turnovers. If we lose to DePaul this season, I think my head might explode.

Jay Bee · « **Reply #23 on:** November 05, 2016, 09:07:03 PM »

Quote from: bilsu on November 05, 2016, 08:08:16 PM

Looking at the box score two things stood out to me that I did not realize during the game. JJJ had 6 assists and Reinhardt had zero rebounds.

Shouldn't stand out. JjJ has consistently had strong assist rates for a non-PG and Katin has consistently been allergic to rebounds

Marquette4life · « **Reply #24 on:** November 05, 2016, 09:43:35 PM »

Didn't get to see the game. How many turnovers did we have? Did the game look sloppy?

News:

'23-'24 SOTG Tally

Big East Standings

Recent Posts

Please Register - It's FREE!

Next up: The long cold summer

Author Topic: Rockhurst Takeaways (Read 15757 times)