Vander Summer League

[Herman Cain]

Here is  a recent analysis of Vander Blue as relates to the Lakers  Summer League.

http://asingleword.sportsblog.com/posts/18304507/lakers-summer-league-checklist--3-vander-blue.html

He had a great year in the D League.

[We R Final Four]

What grade is Gregory Crawford in?

Wow, that was, a poorly, written articall.

[Herman Cain]

Here is another story mostly about Nigel Hayes but makes reference to Vander .
http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/college/basketball/men/tom-oates-unless-nba-makes-him-a-promise-nigel-hayes/article_00722435-825a-5ec0-b585-77cccdf8c807.html

[muwarrior97]

What grade is Gregory Crawford in?

Wow, that was, a poorly, written articall.

Sarcasm key stuck on, nice

[rocket surgeon]

what does a guy have to do??  there has got to be a team(NBA) that could use him, i mean, come on man!!

[wadesworld]

what does a guy have to do??  there has got to be a team(NBA) that could use him, i mean, come on man!!

Be able to shoot a jumper better than your average YMCA regular, to start.

[GGGG]

He really should go back overseas.  He could make a mint over there.  At best he is an end of the bench player in the NBA unless he completely does a 180 on his outside shooting.

[CAGASS24]

Odd too with that 87 percent free throw clip - did he not have a one handed jumper? 

[rocket surgeon]

Be able to shoot a jumper better than your average YMCA regular, to start.

ok, so what is a decent, or in your words, "better than your average ymca regular" jumper?  shooting avg.?

   he's shooting 44.5% and 35.7% from the 3.  missed leading the d-league in scoring by 0.1

[Babybluejeans]

ok, so what is a decent, or in your words, "better than your average ymca regular" jumper?  shooting avg.?

   he's shooting 44.5% and 35.7% from the 3.  missed leading the d-league in scoring by 0.1

I'm not sure what you're ultimately suggesting here--is it that NBA teams are stonewalling Vander? Or that they're ignorant to his skills?

One of the beautiful things about sports is that unlike many industries, they're (mostly) a true meritocracy. If you can hack it in the NBA, you will find yourself on an NBA roster. Vander's been playing in the D-league and he's been to several NBA summer leagues/training camps. Teams have had a wealth of opportunities to evaluate him. So far, they've decided what he's bringing isn't enough.

Remember, having gaudy numbers in the D-league does not even remotely mean you can transfer that success to the NBA. They're so, so different. I hope Vander makes it in the NBA and gets to fulfill his dream for at least a few years. But if he doesn't, it won't be because no one gave him the chance.

[Dawson Rental]

what does a guy have to do??  there has got to be a team(NBA) that could use him, i mean, come on man!!

Asking your daughter-in-law out has worked for some.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Here is another story mostly about Nigel Hayes but makes reference to Vander .
http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/college/basketball/men/tom-oates-unless-nba-makes-him-a-promise-nigel-hayes/article_00722435-825a-5ec0-b585-77cccdf8c807.html

You should have given us a warning this was a Tom Oates article

[ChicosBailBonds]

You should have given us a warning this was a Tom Oates article

Oates is right....Hayes should stay in, just as Vander should have.

[LAZER]

Oates is right....Hayes should stay in, just as Vander should have.

I agree, but at the same time I can't help but think Vander would be in the exact same place he is now even if he stays another year.

[Herman Cain]

I agree, but at the same time I can't help but think Vander would be in the exact same place he is now even if he stays another year.

There is a possibility if he stayed he would have been a late second round pick which may have given him slightly more opportunity in that a team would have been slightly more invested in his success.

Vander has a great attitude and keeps plugging away. I really respect that in him.

[We R Final Four]

Oates is right....Hayes should stay in, just as Vander should have.

Really Chicos?

We're certainly familiar with your exhausting position on Vander's early departure. You state it any chance you can.
Why? I have no idea.

[GGGG]

Really Chicos?

We're certainly familiar with your exhausting position on Vander's early departure. You state it any chance you can.
Why? I have no idea.

Are you new here?

[We R Final Four]

I think CBB does a search for "Vander" and responds to each post that he believes that it was a bad idea that he left school early.

[Warrior Code]

He's essentially a quadruple-A player, yes?

[Earl Tatum]

NBA is fixed and run by the MAFIA. Hate the NBA game. Love College and H.S. Drinking Knob Creek or
Leinie's is more interesting.

[SaveOD238]

He's essentially a quadruple-A player, yes?

Great comparison.  He's going to end up as a lifer in the D league with a few cups of coffee in the Association.  He's a real Crash Davis

[GGGG]

NBA is fixed and run by the MAFIA. Hate the NBA game. Love College and H.S. Drinking Knob Creek or
Leinie's is more interesting.

You clearly engage drinking both. Often.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

NBA is fixed and run by the MAFIA. Hate the NBA game. Love College and H.S. Drinking Knob Creek or
Leinie's is more interesting.

Mr. Koenig?

[schubert33]

Odd too with that 87 percent free throw clip - did he not have a one handed jumper?

Every real basketball player has a one handed jump shot.  Your other hand is the guide hand which shouldn't be in contact with the ball at the point of release.

[rocket surgeon]

I'm not sure what you're ultimately suggesting here--is it that NBA teams are stonewalling Vander? Or that they're ignorant to his skills?

One of the beautiful things about sports is that unlike many industries, they're (mostly) a true meritocracy. If you can hack it in the NBA, you will find yourself on an NBA roster. Vander's been playing in the D-league and he's been to several NBA summer leagues/training camps. Teams have had a wealth of opportunities to evaluate him. So far, they've decided what he's bringing isn't enough.

Remember, having gaudy numbers in the D-league does not even remotely mean you can transfer that success to the NBA. They're so, so different. I hope Vander makes it in the NBA and gets to fulfill his dream for at least a few years. But if he doesn't, it won't be because no one gave him the chance.

  i'm not really suggesting anything except that i believe he's shown that he's capable and then some in the d-league.  i'm just another MU guy pulling for another MU guy to make it to the show, that's all.  the brief cups of coffee he's had on the big stage were hardly enough for him to show his stuff.  yes, i realize he's had many eyes on him and they obviously are not impressed enough to give him a full contract. 

   BUT, what does a guy have to do in the d-league to be worthy?  average 30 ppg?  35?  8reb/game? 10?  2 turnovers/game, 3?  assists?  seriously, what is the magic number or intangible, or combination they look for?  i'll guarantee you that there are probably quite a few guys in the NBA that vander would make them look silly one on one

    fwiw, i wasn't a big fan of vanders coming out of h.s as one of his first comments were that he was robbed of the state player of the year award.  it spoke volumes...