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GGGG

Thanks Jaybee.  So will be allowed to practice next semester assuming he meets some academic standard?

Clearly why many didn't want to take a flyer on him.

Jay Bee

#176
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on October 02, 2016, 05:56:15 PM
Thanks Jaybee.  So will be allowed to practice next semester assuming he meets some academic standard?

Clearly why many didn't want to take a flyer on him.

Yeah.. he may be able to practice next semester, but won't be eligible to play. This semester, he's unable to even practice. If all goes well, still can play four years (although you've gotta think he'll be in the NBA before then, a1na?)

PS-Dayton's website has updated a headline to state he's an academic redshirt, but don't believe it. With the new academic standards, in D-I you have 3 possibilities as a new kid... (1) full qualifier, (2) academic redshirt or (3) nonqualifier.

Academic redshirts get aid AND can practice immediately. Nonqualifiers can't get either by rule, BUT can get partial waivers to receive aid and/or practice.

Take a guy like Spellman for Nova.. he's an academic redshirt who is getting aid and can practice. Kostas? No. The school has stated he's not allowed to practice. Is he receiving aid? Maybe, maybe not. But, based on not being able to practice, he appears to be a nonqualifier...
The portal is NOT closed.

4everwarriors

Giannis probably adopted him, ai na?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

bilsu

I am not sure what the current rules are, but Wade was a partial qualifier. Part of what was important to that status was that Wade could of played a fourth year, if he got far enough along academically. Now Wade only played two years, so it did not matter. However, if he had stayed all of his records for his sophomore year would have had to be reclassified as freshmen records.

Jay Bee

Quote from: bilsu on October 02, 2016, 08:49:24 PM
I am not sure what the current rules are, but Wade was a partial qualifier. Part of what was important to that status was that Wade could of played a fourth year, if he got far enough along academically. Now Wade only played two years, so it did not matter.

Back then, partial qualifiers existed in D-I. Today, they don't. But, it is possible for a nonqualifier to ultimately compete for 4 years (w/required progress to degree requirements being met)

The portal is NOT closed.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on October 02, 2016, 05:18:34 PM
Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDaniels  4m4 minutes ago
Dayton's Kostas Antetokounmpo, the brother of Giannis, will redshirt this season, per a source. Will have four years of eligibility.

Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDaniels  3m3 minutes ago
In time Kostas Antetokounmpo is really going to help Archie Miller. This will be beneficial for his development. Needs weight. Has upside.

This sounds like something someone said a while back...
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


tower912

You know who hasn't chimed in on this development?     
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Newsdreams

Quote from: tower912 on October 03, 2016, 05:53:53 AM
You know who hasn't chimed in on this development?   
Checking on Kosta's girlfriend opinion, status, etc.
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
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martyconlonontherun

Quote from: Jay Bee on October 02, 2016, 06:04:25 PM
Yeah.. he may be able to practice next semester, but won't be eligible to play. This semester, he's unable to even practice. If all goes well, still can play four years (although you've gotta think he'll be in the NBA before then, a1na?)

PS-Dayton's website has updated a headline to state he's an academic redshirt, but don't believe it. With the new academic standards, in D-I you have 3 possibilities as a new kid... (1) full qualifier, (2) academic redshirt or (3) nonqualifier.

Academic redshirts get aid AND can practice immediately. Nonqualifiers can't get either by rule, BUT can get partial waivers to receive aid and/or practice.

Take a guy like Spellman for Nova.. he's an academic redshirt who is getting aid and can practice. Kostas? No. The school has stated he's not allowed to practice. Is he receiving aid? Maybe, maybe not. But, based on not being able to practice, he appears to be a nonqualifier...

what are the actual rules? Is he still allowed on campus and interaction with the coaches? If so, I don't see how this is a big deal? He's still 2+ seasons away from contributing but I can see him being a beast as a 5th year senior. I still would take him over nothing this year and a red-shirting Ike next year, but understand why wojo we,t another way.

Brewtown Andy

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on October 03, 2016, 09:41:19 PM
what are the actual rules? Is he still allowed on campus and interaction with the coaches?

If he's not allowed to practice with the team, then I would presume he's not allowed to have interaction with the coaching staff.  Interaction would allow them to be directing him on how to work out, etc., and that defeats the purpose of "no practice with the team."

Not entirely unlike when Todd Mayo was suspended from the team for a semester.

QuoteI still would take him over nothing this year and a red-shirting Ike next year, but understand why wojo we,t another way.

Marquette's current vacant scholarship is going to contribute just as much to MU this season as Kostas is to contribute to Dayton.
Twitter - @brewtownandy
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GoldenDieners32

Quote from: Brewtown Andy on October 04, 2016, 12:55:50 AM
If he's not allowed to practice with the team, then I would presume he's not allowed to have interaction with the coaching staff.  Interaction would allow them to be directing him on how to work out, etc., and that defeats the purpose of "no practice with the team."

Not entirely unlike when Todd Mayo was suspended from the team for a semester.

Marquette's current vacant scholarship is going to contribute just as much to MU this season as Kostas is to contribute to Dayton.
What year was he suspended?

Herman Cain

Quote from: tower912 on October 03, 2016, 05:53:53 AM
You know who hasn't chimed in on this development?   
I cooled on him.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

martyconlonontherun

Quote from: Brewtown Andy on October 04, 2016, 12:55:50 AM
If he's not allowed to practice with the team, then I would presume he's not allowed to have interaction with the coaching staff.  Interaction would allow them to be directing him on how to work out, etc., and that defeats the purpose of "no practice with the team."

Not entirely unlike when Todd Mayo was suspended from the team for a semester.

Marquette's current vacant scholarship is going to contribute just as much to MU this season as Kostas is to contribute to Dayton.

It really depends. If he is eligible to practice come January as mentioned as a possibility, then Kostas can learn the system. At that point, do you take a more physically matured and eligible kostas next year or a Ike. As I said, I would think Kostas would contribute more than Ike next year but really nothing to bitch about as a fan. I'm just intrigued by Kostas.

Brewtown Andy

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tower912

Phew.   MU dodged a bullet there. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

I'm thinkin' 'bout turnin' pro two, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Pakuni on March 22, 2018, 02:44:52 PM
Kostas and his fantastic neck are going pro.

https://247sports.com/Article/Source-Kostas-Antetokounmpo-declaring-for-the-NBA-Draft-116564423

Prime example of why the NBA needs a bonafide minor league system. The kid just wants to play basketball. He's not good enough for the NBA at this point but he doesn't seem interested in going to school in order to play.

MU82

Whattayamean not good enough, MM?

The kid averaged 5 points for the mighty Flyers. He'll step right in to an NBA lineup and be a star!

I mean, did you see his neck? And the kid is a pogo stick!!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuMark

G-league and overseas are certainly decent options for him.


Nukem2

Quote from: MuMark on March 22, 2018, 03:55:06 PM
G-league and overseas are certainly decent options for him.
Maybe the Bucks will find a spot for him in Oshkosh.

#UnleashSean

No surprise going pro and doing the camp. You can come back now. I also won't be surprised if Hauser and Howard do that.

GGGG

Quote from: #UnleashFroling on March 22, 2018, 04:18:51 PM
No surprise going pro and doing the camp. You can come back now. I also won't be surprised if Hauser and Howard do that.


He dropped out of school.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: #bansultan on March 22, 2018, 04:19:46 PM

He dropped out of school.

Where does it say that? In the article it says he has the option of returning.

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