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Ron Paul

Why isn't Marquette taking a harder look at him?

wadesworld

Because he isn't good at basketball.  The same reason no high major (or even mid major) D1 college basketball programs are taking a harder look at him.

If his last name was anything other than "Antetokounmpo" and we were going after a 6'9" 200 lb wing from Dominican High School who is just another guy at the WIAA D5 level that not even UWM shows interest in, what would Scoop look like?

KampusFoods

I can't decide what I want more: Wades to be wrong about Kostas or MU in NY to be wrong about Kostas. I'm leaning Wades, because sometimes I think NY is just pulling the collective leg of scoop.

tower912

What a great question.   No one has brought this up before.   

Pros:   His brother is really good, maybe lightning can be caught in a bottle.   He is long and somewhat athletic.
Cons:   He's not THAT athletic yet, failed to excel against 6'2 kids from private high schools in Wisconsin.   

If he was really good, would he still be available?

If MU's roster was stacked and balanced and deep at every position, he is the kind of kid to take a flyer on.   IMO, MU's roster is not yet at that point.   
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bilsu

Quote from: tower912 on May 19, 2016, 08:34:50 AM
What a great question.   No one has brought this up before.   

Pros:   His brother is really good, maybe lightning can be caught in a bottle.   He is long and somewhat athletic.
Cons:  He's not THAT athletic yet, failed to excel against 6'2 kids from private high schools in Wisconsin.   

If he was really good, would he still be available?

If MU's roster was stacked and balanced and deep at every position, he is the kind of kid to take a flyer on.   IMO, MU's roster is not yet at that point.
His team did win the state championship. I am not sure who else is on the team, but winning the state championship shows some ability to play.

Windyplayer

Tony Gries and Jared Sichting went to the Final Four, too.

wadesworld

Quote from: bilsu on May 19, 2016, 08:39:31 AM
His team did win the state championship. I am not sure who else is on the team, but winning the state championship shows some ability to play.

I think Christ King grade school could compete for the D5 WIAA State Championship most years.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Ron Paul on May 19, 2016, 07:54:26 AM
Why isn't Marquette taking a harder look at him?

Sorry Ron Paul. it's not happening.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Ron Paul on May 19, 2016, 07:54:26 AM
Why isn't Marquette taking a harder look at him?

Because he is an avg player

jsglow

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I've never seen him play except on mixtapes.  I don't know anything.  But if Wojo doesn't find a Plan C 6'9" guy who he can usher out of town after his Sophomore year if things don't work out I'll be sorely disappointed if Kostas ends up at UNLV.

I'm going to go super 'old school' on you guys.  Back in the mid 70's there was a kid at Thomas More HS who was one of the better players in the state named Dick Miller.  Nobody locally recruited Dick even though he really wanted to stay in the area. He went to Toledo later bringing Harvey Knuckles from St. Kate's with him.  Those two guys took Toledo to the NCAA 2 years in a row including a Sweet 16 run.  We need a guy like that.

Edit.  I just looked up Dick's wiki.  Passed away from a heart attack in '14.  55 years young.  God rest his soul.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

I know very little about Kostas that I didn't learn here.  I've never seen him play in person. But he has size and great bloodlines.  I'd take him over an empty chair.  Will he play at all next year? Probably not much.  Will he ever be a contributor? Maybe not.  But he's a nice project big, and you never know, you may strike gold. And if not, so what? Let him go.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 19, 2016, 09:32:43 AM
I know very little about Kostas that I didn't learn here.  I've never seen him play in person. But he has size and great bloodlines.  I'd take him over an empty chair.  Will he play at all next year? Probably not much.  Will he ever be a contributor? Maybe not.  But he's a nice project big, and you never know, you may strike gold. And if not, so what? Let him go.

Todd Mayo had bloodlines.....

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2016, 09:38:45 AM
Todd Mayo had bloodlines.....

Christ, he's been gone for 2 years. Let it go.

jsglow

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2016, 09:38:45 AM
Todd Mayo had bloodlines.....

Todd also had major character flaws.

wadesworld

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 19, 2016, 09:32:43 AM
I know very little about Kostas that I didn't learn here.  I've never seen him play in person. But he has size and great bloodlines.  I'd take him over an empty chair.  Will he play at all next year? Probably not much.  Will he ever be a contributor? Maybe not.  But he's a nice project big, and you never know, you may strike gold. And if not, so what? Let him go.

That's the thing that I think a lot of people who haven't seen the kid don't understand.  He's not a big by any stretch of the imagination.  While project bigs often times are worth the wait because they take longer to develop, taking a "project wing" isn't always as successful.  Kostas is a wing.  He's legitimately thinner than I am, and for a D1 basketball player, that's a very big problem.  People continually use the term, "You can't teach height" in regards to Kostas.  Kostas isn't going to be some banging, bruising big sitting in the post.  He's a (bad) wing.

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 19, 2016, 09:32:43 AM
I know very little about Kostas that I didn't learn here.  I've never seen him play in person. But he has size and great bloodlines.  I'd take him over an empty chair.  Will he play at all next year? Probably not much.  Will he ever be a contributor? Maybe not.  But he's a nice project big, and you never know, you may strike gold. And if not, so what? Let him go.

Wally has great bloodlines too

BM1090

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 19, 2016, 09:32:43 AM
I know very little about Kostas that I didn't learn here.  I've never seen him play in person. But he has size and great bloodlines.  I'd take him over an empty chair.  Will he play at all next year? Probably not much.  Will he ever be a contributor? Maybe not.  But he's a nice project big, and you never know, you may strike gold. And if not, so what? Let him go.

But would you take Kostas over a better player next year? Because that's also an option, even if the scholarship goes unfilled this year.

jsglow

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on May 19, 2016, 09:47:36 AM
But would you take Kostas over a better player next year? Because that's also an option, even if the scholarship goes unfilled this year.

Poor question.  Would I take Kostas over our 4th best recruit next year?  Perhaps.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: jsglow on May 19, 2016, 09:41:26 AM
Todd also had major character flaws.

Oh did he ever.....character was revealed before it was revealed....yet we took him anyway....character revealed.   ;)

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on May 19, 2016, 09:41:06 AM
Christ, he's been gone for 2 years. Let it go.

LOL.  We have people here that can't let go of something that happened 8 years ago.

My point was, bloodlines don't mean that much.  Eron Gordon is an example in the last two weeks.   

GGGG

Kostas over an empty chair might make sense for 2016-17.

But an empty chair gives flexibility to accept a mid-year transfer or it gives you one additional roster spot (for freshman or transfer) in 2017-18 and beyond.

If Kostas doesn't have what Wojo wants in a player, he shouldn't take a flyer on him.  And I don't care about bloodlines.   

We R Final Four

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2016, 09:58:37 AM
LOL.  We have people here that can't let go of something that happened 8 years ago.

Classic CBB.

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Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on May 19, 2016, 09:38:45 AM
Todd Mayo had bloodlines.....

And he was a talented basketball player for us. He was also a major head case, but that has nothing to do with his bloodlines.
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