Poll: If You Were An NBA GM Who Would You Pick

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I guess I don't understand the context in which Goff mentioned it.  On the face of it, I don't see much harm in a 19 year old millionaire having his brother hang around with him.  I don't think Wally is a bad influence by any means. 

And I don't get the Taylor Griffin reference.  He played in Italy last year.

Yeah, I'm with you on it. Odd.

[wadesworld]

The fact that a NBA guy knows Wally's name, means NBA teams are talking about Wally in regards to Henry. Probably not a positive.

I could see it if Wally had a criminal background or is someone who they feel has held Henry back from reaching his potential or from working hard on his game, but Hank credits his family with his gym rat mentality and with forcing him to build his ball handling and shooting skills from a young age.  And Walter is a college educated kid who, as far as I know, does not have a criminal history.

If an NBA team passes up on a player because he's hanging out with a guy like Walter Ellenson, I'm thinking the pool of players they're limiting themselves to is very, very thin.

[MerrittsMustache]

Ellensons got trashed today on the Score by NBA expert Jason Goff.

"I'm not going to pretend I follow Marquette basketball, but whenever Henry goes, Wally is following. The next Taylor Griffin."

Ringing endorsement from an NBA guy and the information he's getting.

Was that all he said about the Ellensons? Doesn't sound like he "trashed" them in any way. Simply pointed out the obvious.

[Pakuni]

Ellensons got trashed today on the Score by NBA expert Jason Goff.

"I'm not going to pretend I follow Marquette basketball, but whenever Henry goes, Wally is following. The next Taylor Griffin."

Ringing endorsement from an NBA guy and the information he's getting.

Jason Goff ... NBA expert?
Uh, since when? The guy has been a radio producer/host in Chicago for the entirety of his career. He's as much an NBA expert as you or I.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

People often don't realize but teams do consider players family situations when prepping for the draft. It's not a major factor but it is a consideration. A person I trust told me that Bobby portis fell a few spots last year due to his family situation.

A lot of potential NBA players have brothers who will be hanging out with them. The fact that this guy felt the need to mention Wally, is probably closer to a bad thing than a good thing. However, it probably won't affect Henry's status at all.

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Jason Goff ... NBA expert?
Uh, since when? The guy has been a radio producer/host in Chicago for the entirety of his career. He's as much an NBA expert as you or I.

Those years he had his own NBA radio show...and all the guest appearances he does in other cities...guy is NBA connected.

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People often don't realize but teams do consider players family situations when prepping for the draft. It's not a major factor but it is a consideration. A person I trust told me that Bobby portis fell a few spots last year due to his family situation.

A lot of potential NBA players have brothers who will be hanging out with them. The fact that this guy felt the need to mention Wally, is probably closer to a bad thing than a good thing. However, it probably won't affect Henry's status at all.

Thanks for at least seeing what I was thinking.

[naginiF]

People often don't realize but teams do consider players family situations when prepping for the draft. It's not a major factor but it is a consideration. A person I trust told me that Bobby portis fell a few spots last year due to his family situation.

A lot of potential NBA players have brothers who will be hanging out with them. The fact that this guy felt the need to mention Wally, is probably closer to a bad thing than a good thing. However, it probably won't affect Henry's status at all.

Smoke and mirrors?

(if i remember the tweet accurately)

[GoldenDieners32]

Do anyone think Wojo will be in the green room with Henry? I know UK coach always goes and when Jimmy got drafted I'm pretty sure Buzz was there.

[Nukem2]

Do anyone think Wojo will be in the green room with Henry? I know UK coach always goes and when Jimmy got drafted I'm pretty sure Buzz was there.

no, have an official visit here tomorrow.  Business first,

[naginiF]

Do anyone think Wojo will be in the green room with Henry? I know UK coach always goes and when Jimmy got drafted I'm pretty sure Buzz was there.

I'm not a big NBA fan but I'd be SHOCKED if JFB got invited to the green room on draft night.   Was the idea once 'anyone that could go in the first 2 rounds should be present'?

[Silkk the Shaka]

no, have an official visit here tomorrow.  Business first,

Nice, who?

[rocket surgeon]

I could see it if Wally had a criminal background or is someone who they feel has held Henry back from reaching his potential or from working hard on his game, but Hank credits his family with his gym rat mentality and with forcing him to build his ball handling and shooting skills from a young age.  And Walter is a college educated kid who, as far as I know, does not have a criminal history.

If an NBA team passes up on a player because he's hanging out with a guy like Walter Ellenson, I'm thinking the pool of players they're limiting themselves to is very, very thin.

seriously.  and they had no issues with allen iverson's choice of friends?  i'd take a whole gang of wally's any day.  maybe even help henry jump a little higher, EYn'a?

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seriously.  and they had no issues with allen iverson's choice of friends?  i'd take a whole gang of wally's any day.  maybe even help henry jump a little higher, EYn'a?

AI is transcendent talent. Henry is a role player.

Wally also got bullied so bad, by his own teammates, that the Ellensons sued the school district.

[Herman Cain]

Selected Articles interviews etc

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/2016-6-20-henry-ellenson-marquette-nba-draft-days-video-episode-three/

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2016/06/21/deyonta-davis-jay-bilas/86206444/

http://www.tarheelblog.com/2016/6/21/11990538/si-com-anonymous-scout-on-brice-johnson

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2016/story/_/id/16397643/2016-nba-draft-ben-bentil

[wadesworld]

AI is transcendent talent. Henry is a role player.

Wally also got bullied so bad, by his own teammates, that the Ellensons sued the school district.

I'm not saying you didn't hear it.  I'm just saying if it's true it's absurdly stupid.

[Herman Cain]

Draft Express
10. Deyonta Davis
18. Henry Ellenson
25. Brice Johnson
48. Ben Bentil

NBA Draft.Net
10. Deyonta Davis
16. Henry  Ellenson
25. Brice Johnson
39. Ben Bentil

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'm not saying you didn't hear it.  I'm just saying if it's true it's absurdly stupid.

He's not making it up.

http://www.twincities.com/2011/02/15/ex-basketball-player-accuses-eau-claire-school-district-in-bullying-lawsuit/

[wadesworld]

He's not making it up.

http://www.twincities.com/2011/02/15/ex-basketball-player-accuses-eau-claire-school-district-in-bullying-lawsuit/

I meant the whole "Teams are scared that Walter Ellenson is hanging around Hank" part.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I meant the whole "Teams are scared that Walter Ellenson is hanging around Hank" part.

Ah, my bad.

I don't know. Family certainly isn't a main factor but it can have an impact on how a players pans out for a franchise. Different level but look how Jeronne Maymon's family completely derailed him. Can happen at the pro level as well. Don't know anything about this situation and from what I do know about the Ellensons, it shouldn't apply. They seem enthusiastic but hardly anything I would call a red flag.

[brewcity77]

Ah, my bad.

I don't know. Family certainly isn't a main factor but it can have an impact on how a players pans out for a franchise. Different level but look how Jeronne Maymon's family completely derailed him. Can happen at the pro level as well. Don't know anything about this situation and from what I do know about the Ellensons, it shouldn't apply. They seem enthusiastic but hardly anything I would call a red flag.

I believe Exhibit A at the pro level would be Derrick Rose, particularly with brother Reggie.

[wadesworld]

I believe Exhibit A at the pro level would be Derrick Rose, particularly with brother Reggie.

I guess that's my point. I know it happens at all levels. But it's Walter Ellenson.

[VegasWarrior77]

Just heard Wally Szczerbiak on sports talk while driving home from the grocery store.  He was discussing the NBA draft with the hosts (Gio & Jones on CBS).  They asked him for a sleeper pick.  He likes HE with his "Dirk-like" game and improving outside shot.  Wally stated that HE had "slipped from 10 to 13"... FWIW

[GGGG]

no, have an official visit here tomorrow.  Business first,

Unofficial. Isaiah Kelly.

[brewcity77]

I guess that's my point. I know it happens at all levels. But it's Walter Ellenson.

I'm with you. Not aware of any massive Wally issues that should scare teams away.