[Matt Velazquez] Henry Ellenson officially declares for the NBA draft and will sign agent

[MattVelazquez]

Henry Ellenson officially declares for the NBA draft and will sign agent

On Tuesday evening, Henry Ellenson officially announced that he will leave Marquette after one season, hire an agent and declare for the NBA Draft.

Source: Henry Ellenson officially declares for the NBA draft and will sign agent

[wadesworld]

Oh.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Oh.

Still wasn't true when you said it the first 100 times. It was a sound prediction based on good reasoning and research. One that I agreed with.  But it was an opinion, not a fact. The final decision wasn't made until after the season. Funny enough, that's when you stopped saying "he gowne" to everything.

[#UnleashSean]

So I guess the only question is: Do we see him on the titans video?

[wadesworld]

So I guess the only question is: Do we see him on the titans video?

Yes.

[The Lens]

Still wasn't true when you said it the first 100 times. It was a sound prediction based on good reasoning and research. One that I agreed with.  But it was an opinion, not a fact. The final decision wasn't made until after the season. Funny enough, that's when you stopped saying "he gowne" to everything.

The plan all along was One and Done.  That was the plan.  Something major would have had to have happened.  He was gone from the day he first met with Wojo.  That was the plan.  You can use semantics on when the "final" decision was made but the plan all along was One and Done.  Today is not a surprise, today is a not a good guess by Wade's World, today is all apart of the plan.  Stop pretending / suggesting otherwise.

[wadesworld]

The plan all along was One and Done.  That was the plan.  Something major would have had to have happened.  He was gone from the day he first met with Wojo.  That was the plan.  You can use semantics on when the "final" decision was made but the plan all along was One and Done.  Today is not a surprise, today is a not a good guess by Wade's World, today is all apart of the plan.  Stop pretending / suggesting otherwise.

Bingo. The only decision that needed to be decided was when to announce and who to sign with.

[MU82]

I'm proud of all Henry accomplished in his short time at Marquette. I'm glad Wojo was able to successfully recruit such a talent. I enjoyed watching him play. And I'm thankful that he announced his decision early instead of stringing everybody along.

Nothing but positives. I wish him well and will enjoy following his career.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The plan all along was One and Done.  That was the plan.  Something major would have had to have happened.  He was gone from the day he first met with Wojo.  That was the plan.  You can use semantics on when the "final" decision was made but the plan all along was One and Done.  Today is not a surprise, today is a not a good guess by Wade's World, today is all apart of the plan.  Stop pretending / suggesting otherwise.

Yes, Henry being one and done was always the plan. To think that was a final decision is not the truth. At some point during the season he was no longer sure of the plan and considered other options. Ultimately he decided to stick with the original plan. Never said today was a surprise. Never said Wadesworld made a guess. He made a smart prediction based on evidence (not a hard prediction to make). I'm not pretending or suggesting anything. I'm stating.

[Tugg Speedman]

The plan all along was One and Done.  That was the plan.  Something major would have had to have happened.  He was gone from the day he first met with Wojo.  That was the plan.  You can use semantics on when the "final" decision was made but the plan all along was One and Done.  Today is not a surprise, today is a not a good guess by Wade's World, today is all apart of the plan.  Stop pretending / suggesting otherwise.

+1

People close to the MU program, including a guy that runs another message board, told me that Henry was one-and-done before the season started.  In fact one of these people thought Henry told Wojo that was the plan before he recruited him.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

+1

People close to the MU program, including a guy that runs another message board, told me that Henry was one-and-done before the season started.  In fact one of these people thought Henry told Wojo that was the plan before he recruited him.

All that is true. None of that meant HE was gowne until recently.

[RubyWiscy]

Bingo. The only decision that needed to be decided was when to announce and who to sign with.

Don't mean to be a prick, but that's two decisions.



Actually, I do mean to be a prick.

[Tugg Speedman]

All that is true. None of that meant HE was gowne until recently.

Exactly

I did not bring it up until now because plans change, outlooks evolve.

In this case the original plan stayed that way until the end.

[Goose]

Of course both he and Wojo knew he was one and done from the start. This was never in doubt and if anyone thought it was they are kidding themselves.

[Herman Cain]

Yes, Henry being one and done was always the plan. To think that was a final decision is not the truth. At some point during the season he was no longer sure of the plan and considered other options. Ultimately he decided to stick with the original plan. Never said today was a surprise. Never said Wadesworld made a guess. He made a smart prediction based on evidence (not a hard prediction to make). I'm not pretending or suggesting anything. I'm stating.

I think one of the things that evolved is that some specific teams in the lottery showed interest which took the risk out. The T Wolves make enormous sense . 2 hours from home and parents.  I think if things were more generic he probably would not have opted for the agent.

I hope he finishes out the semester for APR sake.

[DaCoach]

If Henry had not signed on last year, we would be heading into next year with an experienced player, probably a big body. Instead we start from scratch. So, was it worth it to gain a few wins for a non-tourney? It seems to me that it's similar to trading a good prospect in baseball for a top notch player when you have a 2nd division team.

No sense signing a one and done unless you're a contender.

[wadesworld]

If Henry had not signed on last year, we would be heading into next year with an experienced player, probably a big body. Instead we start from scratch. So, was it worth it to gain a few wins for a non-tourney? It seems to me that it's similar to trading a good prospect in baseball for a top notch player when you have a 2nd division team.

No sense signing a one and done unless you're a contender.

Of all the dumb posts on Scoop...

[GGGG]

I think one of the things that evolved is that some specific teams in the lottery showed interest which took the risk out. The T Wolves make enormous sense . 2 hours from home and parents.  I think if things were more generic he probably would not have opted for the agent.

Not to be mean about this, but your takes on Henry have been wrong from the beginning.  Barring some unforeseen circumstance, he was always going to leave after one year and he was always going to hire an agent.  He didn't just hire an agent because he might be playing close to home.

This was the plan.

[DaCoach]

Of all the dumb posts on Scoop...

What a coincidence. I was thinking the same thing about your non-factual response. You wouldn't happen to be a Trumpite would you?

[wadesworld]

What a coincidence. I was thinking the same thing about your non-factual response. You wouldn't happen to be a Trumpite would you?

Serious question for you here.  How many players were on scholarship on our roster to begin the 2015-2016 season?

[Pakuni]

Ridiculously dumb hot take on Henry, courtesy of the Marquette Tribune.

http://marquettewire.org/3947508/sports/fiorentino-beware-the-one-and-done/

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Serious question for you here.  How many players were on scholarship on our roster to begin the 2015-2016 season?

Lol. This was my first thought when I read his post.

[jsglow]

Serious question for you here.  How many players were on scholarship on our roster to begin the 2015-2016 season?

'What is fewer than 13, Alex? '

[CTWarrior]

Ridiculously dumb hot take on Henry, courtesy of the Marquette Tribune.

http://marquettewire.org/3947508/sports/fiorentino-beware-the-one-and-done/

I keep reading posters saying that the logic expounded here is stupid, but not why it is stupid.  I'm not convinced that the logic is correct, but not sure why it is wrong, either.  We won more games this year than we would have without Henry this year, but not enough, and we're revamping everything again next year.  I certainly enjoyed watching him play, but I'm not sure his presence at MU was a net positive or a net negative.

[CTWarrior]

'What is fewer than 13, Alex? '

This argument makes sense.  It really is only a potentially bad thing to take a one and done on a non-tourney quality team if his presence scares off another player who might be a four-year quality guy (a PF in this instance).  If it was Henry or nothing then there is no reasonable argument to not take Henry.