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Big Daddy 84

We will see a lot of this offense next year 4 out and 1 in.

Out
TC, DW, JJJ, HC
AR, MH, SC3, SA, SH,

In
LF, MH, (WE or Grad Transfer)

Transfer PF (2017)

No we wont be Villanova, but we wont be the 2014-15 MU squad either.  I do think we make the dance next year.

Hope to change Name next week, will update as soon as I can.

Yes Stan is the man, but wojo closed the deal.

Told that MH will be in  ESPN60 in 2016 after updating.

Yes I think HE is moving on, but that is my opinion not breaking anything here.  I just think he is going to find the answers to his questions to be to his liking and he should. 

Got to go the Al got dirty during break and I got plenty of sweeping to do.


warriorgnp


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Thanks for the thoughts/update.

Dr. Blackheart

Need rebounders.  Worst rebounding team in a long time, especially offensively, and we are losing Henry and his "easy" ten boards a game.

Loose Cannon

" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

MomofMUltiples

I don't know, I think playing Matt Heldt out and Markus Howard in would be a mistake.

And what about my haircut?
I mean, OK, maybe he's secretly a serial killer who's pulled the wool over our eyes with his good deeds and smooth jumper - Pakuni (on Markus Howard)

WarriorPride68

the other open schollie will go to a transfer big man?

Only Fish & Heldt for true bigs?

Big Daddy 84

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Quote from: warriorgnp on April 03, 2016, 03:02:14 PM
No Kalif Young?

Still possibility, but we are just in the mix and finding a player ready to play significant role next year is priority.  Program needs to get back to the dance next year.

KY could be option instead of 2017 transfer.  My reading of the dust bunnies tells me that he will go somewhere else. Wojo is still recruiting him especially now that Fernando is gone.



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jsglow

Just to clarify your lingo BD. Are you saying that Wojo's most likely course of action next year is a grad transfer taking WE's spot if he decides to go jump full time and a traditional sit out transfer providing 2-3 years eligibility if WE stays while Hank moves on?

From my seat that is okay except the mix might be off a bit. Wally would be under tremendous pressure to board and play #4 D at a very high level.

forgetful

Quote from: jsglow on April 03, 2016, 03:36:31 PM
Just to clarify your lingo BD. Are you saying that Wojo's most likely course of action next year is a grad transfer taking WE's spot if he decides to go jump full time and a traditional sit out transfer providing 2-3 years eligibility if WE stays while Hank moves on?

From my seat that is okay except the mix might be off a bit. Wally would be under tremendous pressure to board and play #4 D at a very high level.

My reading is that we are in on a Transfer that wouldn't be immediately eligible (PF 2017) and if Wally decides to leave we'll add an additional transfer (immediate eligibility).

bilsu

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 03, 2016, 03:06:59 PM
Need rebounders.  Worst rebounding team in a long time, especially offensively, and we are losing Henry and his "easy" ten boards a game.
This is exactly correct. The team is not going to be good next year, if they cannot improve their rebounding. We were exactly zero in rebounding margin last year with Henry.

Boone

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That was my understanding of it, too. However, we need immediate inside help, whether Wally leaves or not. Filling the inside void revolves around Henry's plans, NOT Wally's.

Vander Blue Man Group

Which of our guys can improve the most over the offseason, both in terms of skills, and more importantly, consistency?   

Yes, we definitely need to bring in a 4 that can rebound but we also need to know what we're getting almost every game from the guys who are coming back. 

Big Daddy 84

I don't disagree that rebounding is a concern, but systems can be adjusted to focus on different things.  Remember when JFB was a soph and he scored most of his points on the Offensive glass.  But his senior year he was the get back guy.  Poor rebounding teams can make up for this by increasing turnovers they cause (MU was good at this),  decreasing their turnovers (MU was not good at this and a bigger concern than rebounding IMHO) and improving shooting percentage.  (Next years squad should have higher number.)

Some of you data geeks (and I mean that with respect) can run some numbers and show that if our rebounding does not improve, but we create same TO and decrease our TO and improve Shooting the net result is a positive.  But I am only the guy that sleeps floors around here so I could be wrong.  I really would like to see those numbers.


Boone

We were a dreadful rebounding team WITH Henry. Shudder to think how bad we'll be on the glass w/o him. We'll have to create turnovers at an alarming rate to pick up that slack.

Just don't get the staff's failure to address a glaring deficiency. Our opponents will be playing volleyball on the offensive glass.

BM1090

Quote from: Boone on April 03, 2016, 05:53:51 PM
We were a dreadful rebounding team WITH Henry. Shudder to think how bad we'll be on the glass w/o him. We'll have to create turnovers at an alarming rate to pick up that slack.

Just don't get the staff's failure to address a glaring deficiency. Our opponents will be playing volleyball on the offensive glass.

We have a few months to fill one and maybe two spots. How about we see how it shakes out before saying the staff failed?

Loose Cannon

Quote from: Boone on April 03, 2016, 05:53:51 PM
We were a dreadful rebounding team WITH Henry. Shudder to think how bad we'll be on the glass w/o him. We'll have to create turnovers at an alarming rate to pick up that slack.

Just don't get the staff's failure to address a glaring deficiency. Our opponents will be playing volleyball on the offensive glass.

Is your seat closer than the Coaching Staffs, maybe they didn't notice.
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

Boone


Loose Cannon



  Keep up the good work.
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

forgetful

Quote from: Boone on April 03, 2016, 05:53:51 PM
We were a dreadful rebounding team WITH Henry. Shudder to think how bad we'll be on the glass w/o him. We'll have to create turnovers at an alarming rate to pick up that slack.

Just don't get the staff's failure to address a glaring deficiency. Our opponents will be playing volleyball on the offensive glass.

AS BD mentions, a lot of rebounding has to do with the team emphasis and design.  Henry's job was to be the guy crashing the board.  Luke was supposed to clear out (boxing out) as many people as possible.  The guards were supposed to get back.

That led to Henry being a rebounding beast.  Someone will step up into those shoes and the team design, maybe having an extra guard crash the boards, will compensate along with fewer TOs with a guard heavy team.

BM1090

Quote from: forgetful on April 03, 2016, 06:37:36 PM
AS BD mentions, a lot of rebounding has to do with the team emphasis and design.  Henry's job was to be the guy crashing the board.  Luke was supposed to clear out (boxing out) as many people as possible.  The guards were supposed to get back.

That led to Henry being a rebounding beast.  Someone will step up into those shoes and the team design, maybe having an extra guard crash the boards, will compensate along with fewer TOs with a guard heavy team.

Yep. Maybe we dedicate 4 or 5 guys to the glass next year and don't try to get out in transition as much. Should have alot of good shooting so the half court offense will be improved

Jay Bee

Quote from: Big Daddy Howard 84 on April 03, 2016, 04:34:28 PM
Poor rebounding teams can make up for this by increasing turnovers they cause (MU was good at this),  decreasing their turnovers (MU was not good at this and a bigger concern than rebounding IMHO) and improving shooting percentage.  (Next years squad should have higher number.)

Some of you data geeks (and I mean that with respect) can run some numbers and show that if our rebounding does not improve, but we create same TO and decrease our TO and improve Shooting the net result is a positive.  But I am only the guy that sleeps floors around here so I could be wrong.  I really would like to see those numbers.

Turnovers - absolutely we should see an improvement next year.. great? Offensively it's very possible. Key.

Rebounds - opportunity for significant improvement is there.. if we don't achieve it, it will limit the ceiling.

Shooting - we were actually very good shooting. It was ALL about 2FG% though. Can we match or better it? Absolutely -- 3FG% may very well determine our success next season. That's a scary proposition, but for a team that hasn't made IT for a few years, it's a nice opportunity.

Luke can repeat.. JjJ at 2FG%? Hmm... don't know. He was really good. Haany, Duane.. can they repeat?

The reality is a strength last year was 2FG%, and Henry brought us down.

If the offense has a better 3FG% performance - very possible, perhaps probable - and lowers turnovers... I think we can improve offensively even without a nice jump in OReb%

Pray.
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