NFC North/NFL Thread 2016-17

[MU82]

I remember that game. Actually, here are the highlights...
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000406014/Week-5-Bears-vs-Panthers-highlights

If you go to the 2:50ish mark, you'll see that Cutler's pass was to Santonio Holmes who had a DE dropping back to cover him. Holmes got bumped off his route or else it would have been a 20+ yard gain. It's easy to point the finger at the QB because he threw the pass but it was the right read and a good enough pass but the timing was thrown off.

Cutler made more than his fair share of ill-advised passes but this example is a fan trying to make a play fit the narrative that Cutler throws bad INTs.

Oh now don't go throwing facts at me, you cad you!!!!

[MerrittsMustache]

Oh now don't go throwing facts at me, you cad you!!!!

Ha! My sole intention was to ruin that memory for you!

[brandx]

Cutler is not nearly as bad as many have made him out to be, but he hasn't been nearly as good as his talent suggests he should be. I honestly think that if the Bears had hired Bruce Arians in 2013, we'd view Cutler differently today. Cutler played one season in Chicago with a legit NFL OC (2015) and he had an efficient, low-TO season. Unfortunately, they only had 1 WR and a bad defense and the team went 6-10. It has never really all come together for him in Chicago. Does he deserve some of the blame? Of course. However, in terms of the Bears' primary issues in the last 5-6 seasons, Cutler ranks pretty far down the list.

I think Jay has proven himself to be pretty bad. There would be a bunch of teams clamoring after him if he was even an average QB. He is not. His record stands on its own - or should I say, falls on its own.

He is what he is - a below average QB who is also not a leader.

[brandx]

The Jets could be interesting also as an old Bear reunion with Cutler, Marshall and Forte.

I guess. Considering all of the titles the Bears won with those three guys. A bad QB + 2 over-the-hill skill players = ???

[RJax55]

I think Jay has proven himself to be pretty bad. There would be a bunch of teams clamoring after him if he was even an average QB. He is not. His record stands on its own - or should I say, falls on its own.

He is what he is - a below average QB who is also not a leader.

Pretty bad, below average. No, that's more hyperbole.

Jay's career record is 69-72. So, he's almost right at .500, which I would deem average. That makes sense, because Jay's an average QB. Pretty bad are guys like EJ Manuel, Mike Glennon, Brendan Weeden, etc.

I won't miss Jay as a Bears fan, but he sure does rile up Packers fans.

[wadesworld]

Pretty bad, below average. No, that's more hyperbole.

Jay's career record is 69-72. So, he's almost right at .500, which I would deem average. That makes sense, because Jay's an average QB. Pretty bad are guys like EJ Manuel, Mike Glennon, Brendan Weeden, etc.

I won't miss Jay as a Bears fan, but he sure does rile up Packers fans.

Packers fans love Jay.

[brandx]

Pretty bad, below average. No, that's more hyperbole.

Jay's career record is 69-72. So, he's almost right at .500, which I would deem average. That makes sense, because Jay's an average QB. Pretty bad are guys like EJ Manuel, Mike Glennon, Brendan Weeden, etc.

I won't miss Jay as a Bears fan, but he sure does rile up Packers fans.

Jay is pretty bad.

Guys like Manuel, Weeden, etc are just plain bad.

[MU82]

Pretty bad, below average. No, that's more hyperbole.

Jay's career record is 69-72. So, he's almost right at .500, which I would deem average. That makes sense, because Jay's an average QB. Pretty bad are guys like EJ Manuel, Mike Glennon, Brendan Weeden, etc.

I won't miss Jay as a Bears fan, but he sure does rile up Packers fans.

That record embodies mediocrity.

And if I were a Packers fan (and I most definitely am not), I would LOVE Jay Cutler. He's 2-12 all-time against them!

[wadesworld]

That record embodies mediocrity.

And if I were a Packers fan (and I most definitely am not), I would LOVE Jay Cutler. He's 2-12 all-time against them!

Bingo. We do love Jay. And I feel comfortable speaking for all Packers fans there.

[GGGG]

Bingo. We do love Jay. And I feel comfortable speaking for all Packers fans there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZWrf6kgs7Q

[brandx]

Bingo. We do love Jay. And I feel comfortable speaking for all Packers fans there.

Speak on, wades!

[jsglow]

Bingo. We do love Jay. And I feel comfortable speaking for all Packers fans there.

+1

[MU82]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZWrf6kgs7Q

That's an amazing video. And what's really amazing is that every one of those interceptions was somebody else's fault!

[MU B2002]

It is amazing to me how much time some Packer fans like to spend talking about a "pretty bad" QB from  an opposing team.

Of course no one is "clamoring" for him now.  Every team in the league expects Cutler to be cut, and available on the open market.  Why waste a draft pick in a trade?

[wadesworld]

It is amazing to me how much time some Packer fans like to spend talking about a "pretty bad" QB from  an opposing team.

Of course no one is "clamoring" for him now.  Every team in the league expects Cutler to be cut, and available on the open market.  Why waste a draft pick in a trade?

Why wouldn't we?  It's 2 guaranteed wins a year coming from our divisional opponent when he's behind center.  That's great for the Packers.

[Spotcheck Billy]

^ I almost cried when Detroit fired Matt Millen.

[MerrittsMustache]

Why wouldn't we?  It's 2 guaranteed wins a year coming from our divisional opponent when he's behind center.  That's great for the Packers.

It's not like any other Bears' QBs have fared all that well against the Packers in recent history.

[Sir Lawrence]

Adrian Peterson to where?  Packers need a RB, and it would be sort of a reverse Favre on the Vikings, but I'm relatively certain he doesn't fit TT's scheme.

[GGGG]

Packers need to spend money on defensive side of the ball.  I fully expect TT to open up the coffers for some cornerbacks.  (Ha ha)

[wadesworld]

Please God no AP to the Packers.

[🏀]

Revis to Pack.

Haha, made a funny.

[tower912]

I can see Detroit taking AP, if they can get him at a reasonable price.    Some mocks have them taking the RB out of Stanford.   Sign AP, use the pick on either a tight end or defensive playmaker.

[MU82]

It's not like any other Bears' QBs have fared all that well against the Packers in recent history.

Kyle Orton was 3-1 against the Pack as a Bear and 5-2 counting stints with Denver, KC and Buffalo. And, believe it or not, Sexy Rexy won his first 3 starts against the Pack!

[DegenerateDish]

I can see Detroit taking AP, if they can get him at a reasonable price.    Some mocks have them taking the RB out of Stanford.   Sign AP, use the pick on either a tight end or defensive playmaker.

Charles makes more sense to me for the Lions.

AP will either be a Giant or Seahawk.

[GB Warrior]

Adrian Peterson to where?  Packers need a RB, and it would be sort of a reverse Favre on the Vikings, but I'm relatively certain he doesn't fit TT's scheme.

Adrian Peterson should take advantage of his time in free agency. Go home, reflect and spend time making a good switch.