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Marquette is in a downward spiral.....

Started by duanewade, March 08, 2016, 08:18:44 PM

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duanewade

As predicted the Marquette basketball fan base has dried up with a watered down conference and a big miss on the coaching hire.  It's sad to see no more sell outs even when playing teams like Wisconsin or #1 Villanova on Saturday afternoon games.

The Wojo honeymoon is over and the word is out among recruits and rival coaches alike that he can't coach or even get teams with highly rated recruits into the NCAA tournament.  So don't expect any more exciting recruiting classes.  Yes we'll see a Hauser type here and there but that won't even get us in the NIT with his coaching (maybe with Bo Ryan or Bobby Knight we could but Wojo isn't close to them).

Marquette as a university has no clue either in that they think it's OK to charge twice as much for an education as a Big Ten school and then provide the paying customer half as much.  For example at Madison there are 4 times as many alumni to network with.  Madison allows students to load up on classes in real estate or other specialties that get you a job in the real world while MU forces you take 6 classes in Theo/Phil (one of each would have been suffice) that essentially steals from students who have no interest in becoming a priest or stand-up philosopher (only Mel Brooks seemed turned that into a paycheck).  Further MU alumni are the most worthless group I've met who never return calls or even try to create a forcible entity like the Wisconsin Real Estate Alumni Association does in Wisconsin, Illinois and elsewhere.  Finally MU's career resources group should all resign so they can lower tuition.  I can't believe the only companies they could find to recruit graduating seniors were 100% commission paying insurance companies.

I would never send my son and daughter to Marquette as I've had way more responses from Wisconsin and ND alumni over the years than I have with MU alumni even though I'm not one of them.  Even the paid MU staff don't return calls/emails even when I'm trying to help them.

This lack of strategic thinking has permeated the entire university and more and more alumni and even casual college bball fans will continue to skip games while also ignoring ridiculous flyers asking for alumni to pay for some other kids scholarship while they had to pay full price themselves.

I say shrink the school, shrink the tuition, give the kids real world training and teach them the importance of networking and helping your own once you graduate.  Essentially a value added proposition that will pay more dividends than a Big 10 education.

In bball it's clear we won't ever be the program we were under Buzz 4 of his 5 years as the power structure didn't like all the cornrows even though the fans did with large turnouts and regular stays in the top 10.  Our old bball niche was to be the polar opposite of Madison bball instead of trying to be Madison Light like we are now under Wojo.  Once again a very dumb strategic decision instead of being the inner city team that has worked so well throughout our past history. 

It's time to start playing in the Al with less empty seats and find our new niche as a low tier Big East team similar to DePaul that makes the NCAA once every ten years.  We'll never be what we were in the Al days or the recent past so the sooner we realize this the better.  Our leadership isn't proactive enough to change our basketball and overall university destiny at this point no matter how many delusional posters will try to convince themselves otherwise.  Maybe some smart and strong alumni will rise up and create some winning strategies to get the alumni excited with pride again like Gov. Walker did.  However our bball days are set on cruise control straight down for the foreseeable future. 


GGGG

Quote from: duanewade on March 08, 2016, 08:18:44 PM
Even the paid MU staff don't return calls/emails even when I'm trying to help them.


I have no idea why.  You seem like such a pleasant fellow.

ChitownSpaceForRent

#3
Are you sure you even went to Marquette? Because they changes the theo/philosophy requirements 2 years ago now. I'll hang up and wait for your response.

Also, mods can't you track his IP address? Curious to see where he may live/works (if he does)

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

How much time did you waste writing that pathetic fiction novel? That's actually impressive.

you can go away now. Thanks.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.


ChitownSpaceForRent

PS your buddy Walker dropped out. He ain't no graduate.

warriorchick

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 08, 2016, 08:27:14 PM
Are you sure you even went to Marquette? Because they changes the theo/philosophy requirements 2 years ago now. I'll hang up and wait for your response.

Also, mods can't you track his IP address? Curious to see where he may live/works (if he does)

He's no Marquette grad, or a fan, even.  He can't even spell the name of our most famous basketball alum.
Have some patience, FFS.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: warriorchick on March 08, 2016, 08:36:35 PM
He's no Marquette grad, or a fan, even.  He can't even spell the name of our most famous basketball alum.

Probably like Walker, just a drop out who couldn't pass philosophy. That makes a lot more sense about his vendetta against Marquette and the liberal arts courses.


Smokin' Jae



Marcus92

Who bothered reading the whole post in the first place? Move on...
"Let's get a green drink!" Famous last words

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One question - are there booze and pills involved?


real chili 83

#14
Quote from: Marcus92 on March 08, 2016, 09:07:53 PM
Who bothered reading the whole post in the first place? Move on...

This.

Well done too JB.  Lol. Mrs. C was wondering what I was belly laughing at. 

esotericmindguy

Out of state tuition at UW is $30K. Marquette is 38K. Not much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. Marquette has a lot to offer, may not be for you.

brandx

"Yes a tremendous opportunity....nothing like an all catholic league....but worse yet an all catholic league minus Villanova and Georgetown.  That wreaks of low mid-major and the end of Marquette basketball as we know it."


That was our esteemed poster in 2010. Hasn't learned a new tune in 6 years.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: duanewade on March 08, 2016, 08:18:44 PM
As predicted the Marquette basketball fan base has dried up with a watered down conference and a big miss on the coaching hire.  It's sad to see no more sell outs even when playing teams like Wisconsin or #1 Villanova on Saturday afternoon games.


7th largest game in Marquette history....  But okay.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Marcus92 on March 08, 2016, 09:07:53 PM
Who bothered reading the whole post in the first place? Move on...

I did, since I find it humorous when people jump from one thing to the next. Must be from his UW-Madison education. Jk, he barley passed highschool


RushmoreAcademy

Come on now. What would Jemmy Butler say about all this nonsense? Would Stephen Novak approve of this?  I know for sure that Jay Crowder wouldn't be happy.
And what about Usemane Barro? Ok maybe that one is just hard to spell.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on March 08, 2016, 09:42:00 PM
Come on now. What would Jemmy Butler say about all this nonsense? Would Stephen Novak approve of this?  I know for sure that Jay Crowder wouldn't be happy.
And what about Usemane Barro? Ok maybe that one is just hard to spell.

Not as hard as Davantant Gardner

ChicosBailBonds

I read the first paragraph and then moved on to something productivez...taking a dump in the head.

warriorchick

#23
Quote from: #UnleashWally on March 08, 2016, 09:47:54 PM
Not as hard as Davantant Gardner

Or Jay Crouder.
Have some patience, FFS.

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Quote from: warriorchick on March 08, 2016, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: #UnleashWally on March 08, 2016, 09:47:54 PM
Not as hard as Davantant Gardner
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Or Jay Crouder.

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