2016-17 Schedule

[brewcity77]

MU left a game on the table in 14-15, Wojo's first year. Only played 12 non con d1 games that season.

EDIT: NM, jsglow already covered it

[brewcity77]

Gotcha, I thought it was just 13 was the limit for d1 non-con games.

The limit is actually 10, but one of those 10 can be an exempt tourney which can give teams anywhere from (I believe) 2-4 games.

Well...the limit isn't even exactly 10, it's dependent on the length of the conference season as well. But for our purposes, 9 games + 1 exempt tourney is how it works out.

[GGGG]

I believe the rule is 27 games plus one multi game tourney that can be up to four.  So up to 31 total.

31 total minus 18 league games, means 9 "regular" non conference games, and up to 4 tourney games.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

The limit is actually 10, but one of those 10 can be an exempt tourney which can give teams anywhere from (I believe) 2-4 games.

Well...the limit isn't even exactly 10, it's dependent on the length of the conference season as well. But for our purposes, 9 games + 1 exempt tourney is how it works out.

Thanks for the clarity.

The point remains that it appears MU could have scheduled another game.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Plus if you want to improve the RPI it needs to be by playing teams that will win games. I have zero confidence in UWM having success the next couple of years given the state of that program that would make them a coveted RPI opponent

That's what I've been thinking this entire conversation. They are going to SUCK next year. I'm talking like Sub 300 level bad potentially. And while I do like the Jordan hire, I'm not convinced that he will be able to overcome the barriers UWM will self impose and turn this team around anytime soon.

[Jay Bee]

Gotcha, I thought it was just 13 was the limit for d1 non-con games.

The limit is 27 games + one qualifying tourney w/a max of 4 = 31 OR
29 games w/no qualifying tourney

[Herman Cain]

Getting to the 20 win mark is important for our program. I believe having 31 chances is better then 30.

This seems like the optimal year to do the 3:1 with UWM or UWGB . Do the road game this year because we are obviously not giving up a home game the way things are scheduled .

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

From a financial perspective, I don't understand why you would leave a game on the table. From an RPI perspective, no game is better than a game against a Grambling or a Chicago State.

If I had to guess, the last game was supposed to be the one against Utah. It fell apart, presumably because of scheduling issues, and they weren't left with enough time to find another quality opponent.

[MUfan12]

Getting to the 20 win mark is important for our program. I believe having 31 chances is better then 30.

20 wins doesn't mean anything.

What's important for MU is consistently making the NCAA Tournament. Adding another lousy opponent on the home schedule doesn't get them any closer to that goal.

[GGGG]

From a financial perspective, I don't understand why you would leave a game on the table. From an RPI perspective, no game is better than a game against a Grambling or a Chicago State.

They get no marginal revenue from a season ticket perspective because they are sold on a base price.  Not to bring this argument up again, but if season ticket holders make up a significant majority of the attendance for a non-conference buy game, then you likely aren't forgoing much revenue.

If I had to guess, the last game was supposed to be the one against Utah. It fell apart, presumably because of scheduling issues, and they weren't left with enough time to find another quality opponent.

With the conference season starting on December 28, I think it came down to timing.  They either had to schedule a game during finals week, schedule three games in like six days before Christmas, or schedule a non conference game versus a Stetson-like opponent during the conference season.  None of those are very appealing options.

I just looked back on previous schedules, and ever since joining the BE, Marquette has *always* scheduled a game between Christmas and the start of conference play.  (Almost all of these were buy games.  The only exceptions were the ill-fated series v. Vandy.)  They can't do that this year.

[brewcity77]

I believe the rule is 27 games plus one multi game tourney that can be up to four.  So up to 31 total.

31 total minus 18 league games, means 9 "regular" non conference games, and up to 4 tourney games.

That's it

[Mr. Nielsen]

That's what I've been thinking this entire conversation. They are going to SUCK next year. I'm talking like Sub 300 level bad potentially. And while I do like the Jordan hire, I'm not convinced that he will be able to overcome the barriers UWM will self impose and turn this team around anytime soon.

Hard to say, I do like the newcomers.

[Herman Cain]

20 wins doesn't mean anything.

What's important for MU is consistently making the NCAA Tournament. Adding another lousy opponent on the home schedule doesn't get them any closer to that goal.

I agree we want to make the tournament. Given our recent track record, that is not a given. At the very least we want to put up a 20 win season for PR reasons which is important to the overall goal.

[GGGG]

I agree we want to make the tournament. Given our recent track record, that is not a given. At the very least we want to put up a 20 win season for PR reasons which is important to the overall goal.

Marquette put up a 20 win season last year.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Marquette put up a 20 win season last year.

WITHOUT THE NIT!

(Still can't believe we didn't get in the NIT).

[Herman Cain]

Marquette put up a 20 win season last year.

It looks good on the mast head of MU Scoop. Would like to see us up that total.

[Mr. Nielsen]

On the schedule board Mike Broker on June 1st put this out..
Marquette needs one guarantee game to finalize its schedule - December 6, possibly could play on 7th.

[brewcity77]

On the schedule board Mike Broker on June 1st put this out..
Marquette needs one guarantee game to finalize its schedule - December 6, possibly could play on 7th.

That'd be Fresno State, I have to assume.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

On the schedule board Mike Broker on June 1st put this out..
Marquette needs one guarantee game to finalize its schedule - December 6, possibly could play on 7th.

What is the schedule board?

[Herman Cain]

Matchup with @BadgerMBB will cap busy week for #mubb. MU will then break for finals before last 2 non-league games.

Guessing those will be Dec. 17th or 18th and 21st or 22nd.

If I remember correctly, last year they had similar wording to that above , then they somehow came up with the Stetson game during the conference season.

[jsglow]

They get no marginal revenue from a season ticket perspective because they are sold on a base price.  Not to bring this argument up again, but if season ticket holders make up a significant majority of the attendance for a non-conference buy game, then you likely aren't forgoing much revenue.


With the conference season starting on December 28, I think it came down to timing.  They either had to schedule a game during finals week, schedule three games in like six days before Christmas, or schedule a non conference game versus a Stetson-like opponent during the conference season. None of those are very appealing options.

I just looked back on previous schedules, and ever since joining the BE, Marquette has *always* scheduled a game between Christmas and the start of conference play.  (Almost all of these were buy games.  The only exceptions were the ill-fated series v. Vandy.)  They can't do that this year.

I think you hit on it. Personally, I'm of the opinion that conference games before the 30th or 31st are a bad idea but I know, TV made 'em.

[Mr. Nielsen]

What is the schedule board?

Basketball Travelers Schedule Board.
It's where schools put out adds, in who needs any type of game to fill it's schedule.

[Carl Spackler]

where does the speculation on Dec 28 conf opener come from?

i get not going up against CFB F4 on Sat Dec 31st, but moving to 12/28 seems too early.

[brewcity77]

At this point, I'm much happier with our schedule than in years past. It's not the trainwreck we've sometimes seen. A few thoughts with two games left to be announced:

High-Majors: Wisconsin, Georgia, and Michigan are all good bets for the tourney. Pitt also would be if we play them, if not SMU (like Vandy) would be a decent opponent. Five nice games there.

Quality Buy Game: Fresno State loses a lot but should still be a good name on the resume.

Decent Home Games: Howard will likely start 5 seniors and contend in the MEAC. They could be this season's Norfolk State. IUPUI should be decent (all the 2K home games were at least decent) as they should start 4 seniors and had a host of contributing underclassmen last year. Might drop off a bit, but the Summit is a decent league and usually everyone in the league gets to 10+ wins. Western Carolina is similar to IUPUI in that they lose some talent but play in a decent league and should get 10+ wins.

One Possible Dog: I'm kind of torn on Houston Baptist. Losing Anthony Odunsi, who was a stud for them, will be tough to replace, and they lose 3 senior starters. But they will likely start 3-4 seniors this year and if someone can emerge at the point, they could be better than I'm thinking. At a glance, this looks like the only possible sub-300 team.

If the last two games are at least middle-of-the-road buy games, teams that can win around 10-15 games, then I think a 9-3 non-con record and 19 total wins should be enough to get us into the NCAAs. This time last year, I was pretty pissed about the schedule. This year is definitely an improvement, and the kind of schedule that sets you up to at least feel like you will have a respectable chance to make the tourney if you can get to 18-21 wins.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Basketball Travelers Schedule Board.
It's were schools put out adds, in who needs any type of game to fill it's schedule.

Interesting.