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KampusFoods

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 24, 2016, 09:28:06 PM
Henry's terrible post defense had him out of the running for me before the first half ended. Both of Creighton's bigs spent the entire night on Henry's back shoulder. That, and when you go 12 minutes without a field goal while the 15 point lead dwindled to a tie, just tough to get my vote.

Henry has had some great nights, but tonight he was badly exposed both on defense as well as his inability to seal the lane on offense. Not one of his finer nights despite what the box score may say.

He's not a good defender but he really can't play aggressive defense due to luke constantly sitting for fouls. Need Henry's offense and as such, his defense suffers.

dgies9156

Duane

Played well when it mattered

Without Duane, No Stud at all

BM1090

Duane gets runner up for me. Henry gets SOTG. Hit the big shot late (Ik, Duane hit a couple too) and was good all game. Another 20+ 10+ performance for Henry.

You Duane voters must be diminishing Henry because of all of his rebounds were easy.

KampusFoods

Quote from: dgies9156 on February 24, 2016, 09:33:23 PM

Without Duane, No Stud at all

Same could be said of Henry, JJJ. Playing well makes an impact regardless of when it is done.

BM1090

Duane gets runner up for me. Henry gets SOTG. Hit the big shot late (Ik, Duane hit a couple too) and was good all game. Another 20+ 10+ performance for Henry.

You Duane voters must be diminishing Henry because of all of his rebounds were easy.

Without Duane, there's no stud of the game but the same could be said for Henry and JJ

real chili 83

DU.

Henry made some bitchin shots, but got schooled on d in the post.  HE was great on the boards too

Neurotic game   

BM1090

Quote from: real chili 83 on February 24, 2016, 09:38:30 PM
DU.

Henry made some bitchin shots, but got schooled on d in the post.  HE was great on the boards too

Neurotic game

He got schooled in the post on D because he was out of position because Luke (again) failed to stay out of foul trouble.

mileskishnish72

Only saw last 14 min. because of work, and haven't checked the box, don't need to. There's no doubt that DWil is the SOTG. He can drive you crazy some nights but he bailed this team out tonight when the game was on the line.

GGGG

We have two sophomores on this team.  Both are wildly inconsistent. Duane seems to forget his last mistake and steps up come crunch time.  Sandy seems to stew in his mistakes and overthinks things.

Warrior2008

Swaggy Du with Henry a close second.

TSmith34, Inc.

Henry easily. 

JJJ with a very strong game

Duane's defense was once again terrible and takes away greatly from whatever his offensive contributions are.  See, for example, the three pointer where Creighton tied the game.
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WarriorFan

I'm going for a "triple-stud".

HE for an awesome overall game.
JJJ for keeping us in it early.
Swaggy Du for closing it out.

There is no way just one of these 3 can be singled out this time.

By the way... I think this was the best game of JJJ's career!
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brewcity77

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on February 24, 2016, 09:39:53 PM
He got schooled in the post on D because he was out of position because Luke (again) failed to stay out of foul trouble.

When Luke and Matt aren't in the game, his position is center. That means he has to guard their center, not leave them unimpeded to the hoop.

I actually liked most of Henry's game tonight. Only two really bad shot choices and aggressive on offense for the first 27 minutes. But his porous post defense (Luke wasn't there, fine, but he needs to adjust) and 12 minute drought with the game on the line give the edge to Mr Clutch.

BM1090

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 24, 2016, 10:09:54 PM
When Luke and Matt aren't in the game, his position is center. That means he has to guard their center, not leave them unimpeded to the hoop.

I actually liked most of Henry's game tonight. Only two really bad shot choices and aggressive on offense for the first 27 minutes. But his porous post defense (Luke wasn't there, fine, but he needs to adjust) and 12 minute drought with the game on the line give the edge to Mr Clutch.

And if he bodies up, gets called for a ticky tack call that Luke got? We're screwed.

I do understand what you're saying, but in my opinion Duane was the SOT last 2 minutes, Henry was SOTG.

MU82

Quote from: forgetful on February 24, 2016, 09:12:28 PM
JJJ:   15 pts, 9 rebounds 5 steals.  That is a pretty crazy line (especially 5 steals).

Duane:  as others have said later, finishing.

Too many bad decisions by Henry (otherwise he'd normally be a front runner).

Given that JJJ and Duane had 3 turnovers each and took some wild, unsuccessful forays into the lane, I don't know as either was innocent of "bad decisions."

Henry was an offensive stud for the majority of the game, and that despite being hacked all night long. And while Duane definitely came through late -- again -- it was Hank who hit that pretty jumper in the lane when we needed it to stretch the lead, and it was Hank who hit the clinching FTs. Hank was also as effective as any press-breaker we had.

Criticism of Henry's post defense is valid, but he had to make due without Luke much of the night. Meanwhile, were Duane and JJJ playing especially killer perimeter defense? Do we credit them -- or any other Warriors -- for Creighton bricking about a dozen wide-open 3s? If Creighton shoots 25% from 3, Scoopers would be ripping our perimeter defenders, and rightly so.

Duane came through and JJJ had some nice plays, but the stud is Hank, and I'm not even seeing it as very close.
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GooooMarquette

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on February 24, 2016, 10:11:11 PM
I do understand what you're saying, but in my opinion Duane was the SOT last 2 minutes, Henry was SOTG.

Agree.  If Henry hadn't dominated most of the game, DuWil's late shots would simply have been desperate efforts to get us within 10 points.

IMHO, you have to play well for more than a few minutes to get SOTG.

brewcity77

Quote from: MuEagle1090 on February 24, 2016, 10:11:11 PM
And if he bodies up, gets called for a ticky tack call that Luke got? We're screwed.

I do understand what you're saying, but in my opinion Duane was the SOT last 2 minutes, Henry was SOTG.

Then he's doing his job. Sorry, but ole defense on a dozen possessions simply doesn't do it for me. I don't know if you were watching him on defense in the first half, but it was really bad. Constantly letting his man get behind him or sometimes not even guarding him and drifting out to the top of the key. I mentioned it numerous times in the chat because it was very obvious.

Henry was the stud of the first 27 minutes. The game was decided in the final thirteen, twelve of which he didn't score in.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 24, 2016, 10:18:55 PM
Then he's doing his job. Sorry, but ole defense on a dozen possessions simply doesn't do it for me. I don't know if you were watching him on defense in the first half, but it was really bad. Constantly letting his man get behind him or sometimes not even guarding him and drifting out to the top of the key. I mentioned it numerous times in the chat because it was very obvious.

You realize this paragraph could be used to describe both Henry and Duane's defense tonight, right?

brewcity77

Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 24, 2016, 10:22:26 PM
You realize this paragraph could be used to describe both Henry and Duane's defense tonight, right?

Duane wasn't perfect, but he wasn't that bad, and he also wasn't in the last line of defense position.

For me, this game was decided at the end. Duane rose to that occasion. He wanted the ball in the last 5 minutes. Henry had a fine night, but Duane won us the game.

MU82

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 24, 2016, 10:35:01 PM
Duane wasn't perfect, but he wasn't that bad, and he also wasn't in the last line of defense position.

For me, this game was decided at the end. Duane rose to that occasion. He wanted the ball in the last 5 minutes. Henry had a fine night, but Duane won us the game.

I would argue that Duane had a less-perfect game than Henry did. And also that Henry did come through with some clutch plays at the end.

Not to mention that Henry scored a third of our points, grabbed a third of our rebounds, made a third of our 3s, made 40% of our FTs (without a miss, including the two clinchers). And yet somehow somebody else "won us the game."

You and I usually agree on most things hoops-related, brewski, but I respectfully disagree that Duane (or anybody else) was more studly than Hank.

Glad we get to have this discussion, because it means our lads won!
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forgetful

Quote from: MU82 on February 24, 2016, 10:39:37 PM
I would argue that Duane had a less-perfect game than Henry did. And also that Henry did come through with some clutch plays at the end.

Not to mention that Henry scored a third of our points, grabbed a third of our rebounds, made a third of our 3s, made 40% of our FTs (without a miss, including the two clinchers). And yet somehow somebody else "won us the game."

You and I usually agree on most things hoops-related, brewski, but I respectfully disagree that Duane (or anybody else) was more studly than Hank.

Glad we get to have this discussion, because it means our lads won!

What about JJJ, 9 rebounds and 5 steals and shot 60% from the floor.  He also didn't play absolutely terrible defense during the game. 


Herman Cain

Henry had a strong game on offense but as Brew pointed out was shaky on defense. He showed a lot of different looks on offense which really opened things up for everyone. On most nights I would say he was the stud of the game.

Duane had incredible cajones down the stretch. I want the ball in his hands at those times. He is very fun to watch. I would definitely say he was the stud of the end of the game.

JJJ did a lot of very good things scoring  passing rebounding and defense . Much of it showed up in the box score , but much of it doesn't. For example I saw him boxing out the Creighton 7 footer several times which gave a very easy rebound to Henry. Also he was a constant force on the outside defensively with deflections etc which took Creighton out of their game. Finally ,he is always looking to move the ball into guys hands who can make a better shot than him , for example he had a very nice drive which he probably could have put up but instead kicked it out to Cheatham for one of his super smooth drives. Wojo has drilled this in his head. Some of his drives appeared wild but they were at the very end of the shot clock and the only thing the team had left, Wojo gave him the green light for that.

So when I take it all into consideration, for this game I would give it to JJJ for overall contributions and general studliness throughout the game with honorable mention to the other two.
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CubillanSandwich

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on February 24, 2016, 09:48:09 PM
We have two sophomores on this team.  Both are wildly inconsistent. Duane seems to forget his last mistake and steps up come crunch time.  Sandy seems to stew in his mistakes and overthinks things.

Sandy also overthinks the importance of attending class.   Godo for Wojo.

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Quote from: JaJuanOnJuan on February 24, 2016, 11:12:34 PM
Sandy also overthinks the importance of attending class.   Godo for Wojo.

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