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muwar2003

Is Fischer ever going to play well against a good team or vs some good players his size.  He looks so small against anyone 6"10 and above.  He can't hit free throws and just throws the ball towards the basket when down low.  He reminds me of that 6"10 center that played under Majerus who supposedly could go with either hand and had a great outlet pass. (supposedly)

Norm

Quote from: muwar2003 on January 02, 2016, 07:26:50 PM
Is Fischer ever going to play well against a good team or vs some good players his size.  He looks so small against anyone 6"10 and above.  He can't hit free throws and just throws the ball towards the basket when down low.  He reminds me of that 6"10 center that played under Majerus who supposedly could go with either hand and had a great outlet pass. (supposedly)
I was there in person tonight and Luke played fine in my opinion. He was much better than Henry in the first half. All of Georgetowns big guys were much heavier and as tall or bigger than Luke. For all the crap Luke takes, Henry deserves the same if not more, as he is the burger boy, not Luke.

mileskishnish72

He needs to work on strength and particularly lower extremity strength to be able to finish versus the bodying up that characterizes the BE.

tower912

Luke looked small tonight.   To his credit, he kept attacking.   He was continuously bumped and didn't get a call.   He needs to learn to be the aggressor and finish through contact.   But I won't fault his effort. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Herman Cain

Agrre
Quote from: Norm on January 02, 2016, 07:31:32 PM
I was there in person tonight and Luke played fine in my opinion. He was much better than Henry in the first half. All of Georgetowns big guys were much heavier and as tall or bigger than Luke. For all the crap Luke takes, Henry deserves the same if not more, as he is the burger boy, not Luke.

Agree with this analysis.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

forgetful

Quote from: tower912 on January 02, 2016, 07:32:54 PM
Luke looked small tonight.   To his credit, he kept attacking.   He was continuously bumped and didn't get a call.   He needs to learn to be the aggressor and finish through contact.   But I won't fault his effort.

Agreed.  I am typically overly harsh on Luke.  But he fought hard today.  Not a great game but a solid effort/game.

jonny09

I really like Luke.......However, he has been painful to watch on the post.  Having a very tough time finishing.  Someone needs to continue to work with him on his post moves.   I feel like he can get better but this league is not going to cut him any slack.  Plain and simple...he needs to better.

tower912

Wave your magic wand and make it happen.   While you are at it, make Matt quicker and all of our 2-3's  (JJ, Duane, Sandy, Wally) 2 inches taller with an extra 20 lbs of muscle, please.   Oh, and as part of the better, give Luke a jump shot.   Awaiting the outcome of your wand waving. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

muhoops1

During the game I was upset with Luke.  The reality was he was average tonight.  The problem is he has to be great or near perfect for MU to win on the road.  He has solved the fouling problem this year.  Scoring at close range is still a challenge at times.

ChicosBailBonds

I like Luke.  Liked him at IU, like him here, but as I said the day he transferred here, he is what he is.  He'll continue to get better, but he's not going to be in the NBA or set the world on fire. He works really hard, but has some limitations.

I'll say some similar things about HE.  When he's gone up against other bigs, he's really struggled in my opinion.  He's a freshman, playing in a freshman body and it shows.  His lack of 3 point shooting and athleticism \ strength really hurts him.  I have no doubt that some NBA teams want him to go pro and will pay him to do so, but feels to me that he could really use another year.


Norm

I guess I do not understand all the angst about Luke's play and nary a thread on Henry Ellenson's play. I do not dislike either guy, but HE seems to get a pass while Luke gets barraged with scorn in comparison. Ellenson is taller (by an inch) than Luke, is a burger boy, and is supposed to be a one-and-done. Yet, Ellenson has been awful shooting 3-pointers (and anything else beyond 10 feet), has disappeared in the first half of many games, and does not play near the basket much at all. Yet we have a threads about Luke's play but none on HE. Does not seem to add up.

MUfan12

They're not using the two bigs correctly, IMO. Luke struggled finishing against Presbyterian, and is struggling with contact in a huge way. Yet, they force feed him on the block, and vacate that side which gives the opposition license to help with no repercussions. Henry just goes wherever the fook he wants, which hasn't worked at all.

They need to treat Henry like a true stretch 4. He's dynamite catching in the high post, or baseline wide. Give him room to operate, rather than constantly going into traffic. They also need to figure out ways to keep Fischer mobile. Screen across. Run some high low action. Pick and roll. Anything that makes the defender move with him and create some space.

Marquette's halfcourt offense is so easy to guard right now. The ball goes inside, and doesn't come out. And as long as you put a body on a big, chances are they'll miss. Hard to win that way.

brewcity77

Quote from: MUfan12 on January 02, 2016, 08:35:27 PM
They're not using the two bigs correctly, IMO. Luke struggled finishing against Presbyterian, and is struggling with contact in a huge way. Yet, they force feed him on the block, and vacate that side which gives the opposition license to help with no repercussions. Henry just goes wherever the fook he wants, which hasn't worked at all.

It drives me nuts when Luke gets the ball and literally everyone vacates that side, which happened constantly today. I thought repeatedly "someone come give him a damn outlet." Instead he had to force shots into triple teams because there was nowhere else he could go with the ball.

Had anyone gone to that side we would have had wide open threes all day. Instead they left him on a island.

wadesworld

Luke has been our best player this season.

I would love to see Marquette use him offensively like we did Robert Jackson with Wade.  But we don't have a Wade or even Diener to draw the defense like those 2 did.  But I would love to see some high pick and pops with Duane or Cheatham up top, Hank setting the pick, and Luke on the opposite side of the block behind the basket.  His man comes and helps, drop it off to him for the dunk.  Hank's extends a hedge, hit Hank for a 16 foot jumper or put it on the deck, otherwise the ballhandler finishes.  Send Sandy to the corner to knock down a 3 if his man helps.

MU82

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2016, 08:42:35 PM
It drives me nuts when Luke gets the ball and literally everyone vacates that side, which happened constantly today. I thought repeatedly "someone come give him a damn outlet." Instead he had to force shots into triple teams because there was nowhere else he could go with the ball.

Had anyone gone to that side we would have had wide open threes all day. Instead they left him on a island.

I agree with this. I would like to see some "2-man game" with either Duane or Sandy on his side at the 3-point line. Then if Luke has nowhere to go, he has an outlet ... and one that might even result in an open 3-pointer.

I disagree with the previous poster who talked about Luke always getting double-teamed, however. Smaller teams do it but Georgetown didn't very often tonight unless Luke dribbled right down into one. JTIII didn't feel its bigs needed much help against Luke and he was right.

I agree with those who are giving Luke a lot of heat, though. He is who he is and I think he battled really hard tonight. He's just not strong enough against those kinds of bigs.
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Herman Cain

Luke is our center and he is doing the best he can given the obvious limitations and growing pains of our coaching staff.
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    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

wadesworld

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on January 02, 2016, 10:44:12 PM
Luke is our center and he is doing the best he can given the obvious limitations and growing pains of our coaching staff.

What would those be?

Herman Cain

Quote from: wadesworld on January 02, 2016, 10:48:46 PM
What would those be?
The results speak for themselves. 23-23 career coaching record.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

wadesworld


hoyasincebirth

Luke is just soft as is HE. Can't finish over or through tough straight up defense consistently. Luke is who he is. Henry could learn, but likely will do so in the NBA.

wadesworld

Quote from: hoyasincebirth on January 02, 2016, 11:18:28 PM
Luke is just soft as is HE. Can't finish over or through tough straight up defense consistently. Luke is who he is. Henry could learn, but likely will do so in the NBA.

Woah was worried about you. You'd been pretty silent for a while.

hoyasincebirth

Quote from: wadesworld on January 02, 2016, 11:19:56 PM
Woah was worried about you. You'd been pretty silent for a while.

can you blame me. Didn't have a lot to crow about.

wadesworld

Quote from: hoyasincebirth on January 02, 2016, 11:30:37 PM
can you blame me. Didn't have a lot to crow about.

At least you're honest. I can respect that.

vogue65

In otherwords we don't get the ball to the open man, in fact we don't even try.   I suppose we haven't put that into the offence.

We don't seem to take what they give us, we give them what we want to give them come what may.

MattyWarrior

10 straight misses between Henba and LF at Georgetown. We should have taken that game.

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