Big East Conference Results

[Herman Cain]

Great game between Providence and Georgetown tonight , Providence wins.

Seton Hall with a big road victory over Creighton. 

We have to keep taking it one game at a time. This league is a bear.

[bilsu]

We have a half of season to go yet, but it will be interesting to see how many bids the league actually gets. Creighton seems to be sliding and Butler is running out of time. I think there would be four bids if the selection date was today. Villinova, Xaver, Providence and the winner of the 4-5 game between Georgetown and Seton Hall. I could see six if Georgetwon, Seton Hall and Creighton go 5-4 or better in the the second half. Butler would need to go 6-3, which will not be easy. 6-3 might get MU a bid, but certainly it would be to the first round play in game.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

We have a half of season to go yet, but it will be interesting to see how many bids the league actually gets. Creighton seems to be sliding and Butler is running out of time. I think there would be four bids if the selection date was today. Villinova, Xaver, Providence and the winner of the 4-5 game between Georgetown and Seton Hall. I could see six if Georgetwon, Seton Hall and Creighton go 5-4 or better in the the second half. Butler would need to go 6-3, which will not be easy. 6-3 might get MU a bid, but certainly it would be to the first round play in game.

The BE will get a minimum of 5 teams. I guarantee it and will gladly bet on it.

[bilsu]

The BE will get a minimum of 5 teams. I guarantee it and will gladly bet on it.

I was talking at this point in time. Georgetown has a bad non-conference record, which would hurt them if they lost the first Big East tournament game. 15 win Seton Hall also would need to win the first round game to guarantee a bid. Therefore, today one would likely be in and one would likely be out in out. Now if both teams go 5-4 or better in the second half their resumes get stronger and they are both in. However, I am thinking one at least one of them does worse than 5-4 and I hope our games against those two are one of the reasons why they fall. Of course if we lose both games, it becomes much more likely that both get bids.

[PGsHeroes32]

The way I keep looking at it is we gotta get a top 6 finish in conference to have any chance. Whether that's to win the league. Or at least get a decent win to sit back on.

Right now we're 1 game behind to Creighton and SHU

So Wednesday is massive to get out of 7th.

[jsglow]

The way I keep looking at it is we gotta get a top 6 finish in conference to have any chance. Whether that's to win the league. Or at least get a decent win to sit back on.

Right now we're 1 game behind to Creighton and SHU

So Wednesday is massive to get out of 7th.

For NCAA purposes, about as close as one can get to a MUST win.

[brewcity77]

Number of bids will be interesting. Xavier, Villanova, and Providence are virtual locks already.

Seton Hall is probably the best bet for the fourth, as they probably need to go 10-8 and have five home games, as well as DePaul and St John's on the road.

Butler's great non-con means they can get in at 8-10, but that would still require a 5-4 finish from a team who only has league wins over DePaul and St John's so far.

Creighton is one of three teams that needs to go 11-7 to feel good about their chances. They only have 4 home games left (including DePaul and St John's) but have been road warriors (3-1 on the road in league).

Georgetown's 7-6 non-con record and bad losses put them in the 11-7 crew too. They also only have one game left against the bottom two. Another concern at 11-7 is they'll have 14 losses for an at large. Not impossible, but like MU, 11-7 will have them sweating a little come Selection Sunday.

We're the last team with a chance. I stand by total wins being the best indicator. 21 or less and we're out. 22 on the bubble, and 23+ makes us a lock.

I think we probably get five this year, but if things break right, I could see 6-7 being possible.

[Herman Cain]

Villanova wins in MSG over the Johnnies. Close game for a half.

Our upcoming game with Seton Hall is critical for both teams.

We need a good local turn out of MU fans.

[Herman Cain]

3. Villanova
6. Xavier
11. Providence

Our top three in the league are well respected in the AP poll.

Butler still got a few votes in the coaches poll.

[Windyplayer]

3. Villanova
6. Xavier
11. Providence

Our top three in the league are well respected in the AP poll.

Butler still got a few votes in the coaches poll.

Butler is the personification of why the Big East is so tough. They are a pretty-to-really-good team and they're 3-6 through nine games.

[Herman Cain]

Big East Games tonight

Georgetown at Butler 6:00 Central FS1
Providence at Depaul  8:00 Central FS1

Would like to see Butler pick up a win.  Make our win over them  more valuable.  So their win would be helpful to the MU cause. Would like to see Providence win, helpful for overall Big East cause. 

[Golden Avalanche]

At this point the best Marquette can hope for is that the league becomes a total cluster after Nova/Xavier. I suspect, in the end, no matter if they pick up even more impressive wins like the neturals they have in November and the roadies in Madison and Providence they won't be able to overcome the dreadful loss to DePaul both in record and perception.

[Windyplayer]

At this point the best Marquette can hope for is that the league becomes a total cluster after Nova/Xavier. I suspect, in the end, no matter if they pick up even more impressive wins like the neturals they have in November and the roadies in Madison and Providence they won't be able to overcome the dreadful loss to DePaul both in record and perception.

Not a good loss, but not dreadful either--we can also ease the sting with a win on the road against them. Western Illinois is a dreadful loss.

[Coleman]

Not a good loss, but not dreadful either--we can also ease the sting with a win on the road against them. Western Illinois is a dreadful loss.

I agree its not dreadful, but the difference betwen 4-5 and 5-4 is huge.

[Windyplayer]

I agree its not dreadful, but the difference betwen 4-5 and 5-4 is huge.

Agreed. To drop a home game against arguably the worst team in a very competitive conference is difficult to swallow. This team has been working its tail off to hover around .500. The fact that they could have been 5-4 is actually quite remarkable given the circumstances.

[Golden Avalanche]

Not a good loss, but not dreadful either--we can also ease the sting with a win on the road against them. Western Illinois is a dreadful loss.

DePaul has been the worst program in the conference for the past 10 years. Arguably the worst program the Big East conference has ever had. Up a basket with eight seconds to go and losing in regulation is dreadful.

Unless there is a drastic change in form, Marquette will be lucky to finish 10-8. All the numbers surrounding a 10-8 won't be good enough. Take away that dreadful DePaul loss and it'd be 11-7. One win in the Garden, Marquette is dancing.

It was dreadful.

[bilsu]

Not a good loss, but not dreadful either--we can also ease the sting with a win on the road against them. Western Illinois is a dreadful loss.

It is a dreadful loss, because MU's schedule gave it no room to lose games like Belmont and DePaul. MU is directly behind the eight ball, because they put themself there. As far as DePaul being the worse team, I do not even think they are close to St. John's ineptitude and they did finish ahead of MU last year. A sweep of St. John's and MU would have them tied with us in the standings ignoring the outcomes of the other remaining games.

[Windyplayer]

OK. It was dreadful.

[Herman Cain]

Kelan Martin having another big game tonight for Butler against Georgetown. Butler maintaining a good lead most of the night so far up 13 with 7 minutes left.

Looking forward to our rematch with Butler at Hinkle.

[Herman Cain]

Kelan Martin ended up 35 points 8 rebounds 4 blocks . Butler wins 87-76.

[WarriorPride68]

Kelan Martin ended up 35 points 8 rebounds 4 blocks . Butler wins 87-76.

Woof, have yourself a game young fella.

[Herman Cain]

Bentil with an ankle injury midway through first half. Bad news for Providence if he is seriously hurt. A good kid hopefully he recovers.

[CountryRoads]

Bentil with an ankle injury midway through first half. Bad news for Providence if he is seriously hurt. A good kid hopefully he recovers.

Next Thursday

[WarriorPride68]

Bentil with an ankle injury midway through first half. Bad news for Providence if he is seriously hurt. A good kid hopefully he recovers.

He's out with foul trouble now. Looks fine to me

[bilsu]

Our bad conference loss may not look as bad, but our best win is not going to look as good the way this game is going.