Bo Ryan's Legacy

[Lennys Tap]

I would say the more accurate comparison to Bo was that he was the equivalent of our Crean/Buzz combo. In some respects looking at it that way Bo was not even the best coach in the state.

On top of all that he was a very unsportsmanlike guy.

Bo was an outstanding coach, way better than TC (he owned TC), better than Buzz but not as good as Al.

And like TC, he was a very unsportsmanlike guy.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Goodbye  Bo. We'll miss beating you.... when we did.

In 15 head to head matchups between Becky and the Warriors

Bo's teams won 8
Warriors won 7

The Dwade game in Madison with the fouls called in the opening 7 minutes was a travesty which many a Big Ten team visiting there can attest to.

[ronald dragon]

Bo's teams won 8
Warriors won 7

I like how some Becky fans consider us a mid major, they're saying their best coach only managed to be just over .500 against a "mid major".

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

Bo was an outstanding coach, way better than TC (he owned TC), better than Buzz but not as good as Al.

And like TC, he was a very unsportsmanlike guy.

Buzz > Bo. Hands-down. Judge them by their accomplishments by age.

Whether you like Buzz or not it's true.

[legacy]

Truth be told, Bo was entirely correct.  Any objective observer could see that Coach K complained at halftime, and the officials bowed to mighty Duke and changed the way they were calling the game in the second half. 

This is what I will always remember as Bo's legacy: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udu6Wbb6qkY

F that guy.  No class.   

[Sylvester78]

Buzz > Bo. Hands-down. Judge them by their accomplishments by age.

Whether you like Buzz or not it's true.

Wow,  That is all sorts of crazy. 

And personally, maybe because I hve some standards for our university, I am not very proud of the Buzz era in a lot of ways.

[wadesworld]

Wow,  That is all sorts of crazy. 

And personally, maybe because I hve some standards for our university, I am not very proud of the Buzz era in a lot of ways.

While Bo is clearly the better coach than Bazz, it's cute that you pretend Marquette is "your university."

[Goose]

Al is the best by a wide margin in this debate. I would Bennett and Ryan next on my list though. Hated Bo but the guy can coach and mentioning Crean or Buzz in same conversation is insanity IMO. My respect for Bo, the coach, is based off he won with kids that 99% of the coaches would get fired because of the same kids.

[MU82]

Truth be told, Bo was entirely correct.  Any objective observer could see that Coach K complained at halftime, and the officials bowed to mighty Duke and changed the way they were calling the game in the second half.

That isn't "truth," it's an opinion.

[Let's Go Warriors]

That isn't "truth," it's an opinion.

All you need to do is look at twitter during that game.  UW fans whining like crazy at a time in the game where the foul count was like 7 on Duke and 2 on UW.  That will give you an idea of the level of objectivity.

Then of course, the main inside player for Duke having to sit for a while with 4 fouls.  But ya, the refs lost it for Bucky...

[Loose Cannon]

Truth be told, Bo was entirely correct.  Any objective observer could see that Coach K complained at halftime, and the officials bowed to mighty Duke and changed the way they were calling the game in the second half.

If this is True why does Duke ever lose?

[Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020]

COLLEGE BASKETBALL 101 COACHES TEXTBOOK EXIT INTERVIEW AFTER LOSING THE BIG GAME:

"Congratulations to Duke, they played a great game, I'm really proud of our team."

BO RYAN:

WaaaaaahREFSwaaaaaaaaahRENTAPLAYERSwaaaaaaaaaahCOACHKwaaaaaaaaaaaaahIHAVEOLDBALLSwaaaaaahwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

[Lennys Tap]

Truth be told, Bo was entirely correct.  Any objective observer could see that Coach K complained at halftime, and the officials bowed to mighty Duke and changed the way they were calling the game in the second half.

Any objective observer could see that Duke attacked and put Bucky on their heels. That same strategy worked for UW all year. When Coach K's team turned the tables on them they should have tipped their hat or played harder. Instead they whined.

[keefe]

COLLEGE BASKETBALL 101 COACHES TEXTBOOK EXIT INTERVIEW AFTER LOSING THE BIG GAME:

"Congratulations to Duke, they played a great game, I'm really proud of our team."

BO RYAN:

WaaaaaahREFSwaaaaaaaaahRENTAPLAYERSwaaaaaaaaaahCOACHKwaaaaaaaaaaaaahIHAVEOLDBALLSwaaaaaahwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

BO RYAN:

WaaahREFSwaahCANISCREWYOURWIFEwaaahRENTAPLAYERSwaaaahCOACHK
waaahESCORTSERVICEwaaahREFSF#CKEDUSwaaahSWINGERLIFESTYLEwaaah
REFSwaaaahMYWIFEDOESN'TKNOWwaaaahREFSwaaaahHOOKERSwaaaah!

[MU82]

Bo Cryin'!

[legacy]

Yes, people like the New England Sports Network are clearly biased Badger fans:

http://nesn.com/2015/04/duke-benefits-from-two-bad-calls-late-in-national-championship-video/

I'm a Warrior fan, but I still have eyes.  I'm a Packer fan, but it's clear that the Pack got lucky with the facemark call a couple weeks ago.  Of course, they got robbed on the Fail Mary.  The Badgers got lucky with a no call against Kentucky.  They got screwed over in the Duke game.  It's okay to be honest about this stuff.

All you need to do is look at twitter during that game.  UW fans whining like crazy at a time in the game where the foul count was like 7 on Duke and 2 on UW.  That will give you an idea of the level of objectivity.

Then of course, the main inside player for Duke having to sit for a while with 4 fouls.  But ya, the refs lost it for Bucky...

[GGGG]

Yes, people like the New England Sports Network are clearly biased Badger fans:

http://nesn.com/2015/04/duke-benefits-from-two-bad-calls-late-in-national-championship-video/

I'm a Warrior fan, but I still have eyes.  I'm a Packer fan, but it's clear that the Pack got lucky with the facemark call a couple weeks ago.  Of course, they got robbed on the Fail Mary.  The Badgers got lucky with a no call against Kentucky.  They got screwed over in the Duke game.  It's okay to be honest about this stuff.

It's OK for others to have a different opinion.  And I think yours is wrong. 

Now I am not saying that referees didn't make poor calls, but they didn't benefit UW over Duke over the balance of the game.  Furthermore, you said "Coach K complained at halftime, and the officials bowed to mighty Duke and changed the way they were calling the game in the second half..."

Yet the calls you show in the NESN link had nothing to do with how they were "calling the game."  I thought they called the game consistently. 

[Eldon]

Yes, people like the New England Sports Network are clearly biased Badger fans:

http://nesn.com/2015/04/duke-benefits-from-two-bad-calls-late-in-national-championship-video/

I'm a Warrior fan, but I still have eyes.  I'm a Packer fan, but it's clear that the Pack got lucky with the facemark call a couple weeks ago.  Of course, they got robbed on the Fail Mary.  The Badgers got lucky with a no call against Kentucky.  They got screwed over in the Duke game.  It's okay to be honest about this stuff.

I fancy myself an objective observer regarding Badger games and I didn't see any screwing.  The game seemed fairly called, IMO.  Bo's immediate blame on the refs EVEN IF he got screwed (again, I don't think he was) was in poor taste.

[legacy]

I agree about opinions, but these are all verifiable facts:

1) Wisconsin committed less fouls per game than every team but one last year
2) Wisconsin was called for two fouls in the first half, while Duke was called for seven.
3) Coach K complained at half time
4) Wisconsin called four 13 fouls in the second half, while Duke was called for six.
5) Duke shot 20 free throws, while Wisconsin shot 10.
6) Two critical calls during the stretch run when Duke pulled away were bad calls in Duke's favor.

It's OK for others to have a different opinion.  And I think yours is wrong. 

Now I am not saying that referees didn't make poor calls, but they didn't benefit UW over Duke over the balance of the game.  Furthermore, you said "Coach K complained at halftime, and the officials bowed to mighty Duke and changed the way they were calling the game in the second half..."

Yet the calls you show in the NESN link had nothing to do with how they were "calling the game."  I thought they called the game consistently.

[legacy]

And the larger point is that I'm not a UW fan -- I'm a Marquette fan -- but I could easily find these stats because (a) I remember watching the game, and (b) national sports media covered this. 

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

I agree about opinions, but these are all verifiable facts:

1) Wisconsin committed less fouls per game than every team but one last year
2) Wisconsin was called for two fouls in the first half, while Duke was called for seven.
3) Coach K complained at half time
4) Wisconsin called four 13 fouls in the second half, while Duke was called for six.
5) Duke shot 20 free throws, while Wisconsin shot 10.
6) Two critical calls during the stretch run when Duke pulled away were bad calls in Duke's favor.

All other than #6 (in my mind) point to Bo being out-coached in halftime adjustments by Coach K.

I'm not arguing the stats here but you have WAY too many variables to isolate before you can draw a conclusion that the refs gave the game to Duke.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Just because Coach K mentioned it to a reporter at halftime, how can you be sure the refs ever heard that?

Plus, if the refs did screw Wisconsin, who cares, job well done!

[Skatastrophy]

I agree about opinions, but these are all verifiable facts:

1) Wisconsin committed less fouls per game than every team but one last year
2) Wisconsin was called for two fouls in the first half, while Duke was called for seven.
3) Coach K complained at half time
4) Wisconsin called four 13 fouls in the second half, while Duke was called for six.
5) Duke shot 20 free throws, while Wisconsin shot 10.
6) Two critical calls during the stretch run when Duke pulled away were bad calls in Duke's favor.

Listing a bunch of individual facts facts doesn't prove that any of them are related.

The refs called that game consistently and fairly. They weren't making bad calls one way, they were making bad calls both ways. Wisconsin and Duke both got a fair shake in the game and Wisconsin lost. There was bad reffing, but it went both ways.

[Eldon]

All other than #6 (in my mind) point to Bo being out-coached in halftime adjustments by Coach K.

I'm not arguing the stats here but you have WAY too many variables to isolate before you can draw a conclusion that the refs gave the game to Duke.

Beat me to it, thanks.

[Jay Bee]

Beat me to it, thanks.

Ish.