Midseason Transfers

[Lennys Tap]

I can't defend Ners on the whole Derrick/Dawson issue. I think he was wrong on the basketball part of it and it was crazy how the thing became his "white whale". That said, he is a good guy, a smart guy and a huge MU fan. He reported a rumor on another board. He didn't pen 200 posts on Wojo's misuse of JJJ. Cut the guy some slack.

[Dawson Rental]

Ners is on Dodds board saying we will have a transfer.

You buying it?

Let's just hope that he's not talking about himself transferring back to MUScoop.

[GGGG]

I can't defend Ners on the whole Derrick/Dawson issue. I think he was wrong on the basketball part of it and it was crazy how the thing became his "white whale". That said, he is a good guy, a smart guy and a huge MU fan. He reported a rumor on another board. He didn't pen 200 posts on Wojo's misuse of JJJ. Cut the guy some slack.

I have no idea what he posted over there. 

However Ners posted all sorts of stuff last year that Wojo was playing "mind games" with JJJ, wasn't giving him enough playing time, and implied that he might transfer.  Was it 200 posts?  While it seemed like about that number, I doubt that was the case.

There was no evidence to suggest that any of it was true.

[Dawson Rental]

While I understand STjrs decision to leave with HE coming in, it sure would have been nice to have him as back-up to Henry and Luke this year.  Just imagine if we had him coming in off the bench to spell either for a little bit each game, or there in case of foul trouble.  Oh well.

I guess that's not the senior year Steve envisioned when he was the top player in Illinois four years ago.

[keefe]

I can't defend Ners on the whole Derrick/Dawson issue. I think he was wrong on the basketball part of it and it was crazy how the thing became his "white whale". That said, he is a good guy, a smart guy and a huge MU fan. He reported a rumor on another board. He didn't pen 200 posts on Wojo's misuse of JJJ. Cut the guy some slack.

Well said, Lenny

[jsglow]

I guess that's not the senior year Steve envisioned when he was the top player in Illinois four years ago.

He wasn't the top player. He was the top Senior in a very down year. But of course he hoped for more.  Had he developed we wouldn't have won 13 games last year.  Stuff happens.

[bilsu]

Sacar has said in interviews that he knew he wasn't going to play much this year and he was Ok with that. Not too worried about him transferring.

That is true. However, he started out the season playing some and now basically does not play. Who knows how he reacts to that. Given that he seems to be able to score pretty easily, he may believe he is better than the playing time he is getting. He was willing to play the four to help out the team, but I doubt he really wants to play the four. In that case Henry leaving may not be much of a help. I am hoping for no transfers at mid-season or at the end of the year. I could see JJJ transferring at year end, but I would bet on JJJ being here as a senior. Obviously, if Henry leaves there are a lot more minutes to allocate to the other players.

[Milkshakes]

I was looking for a little mid afternoon break from how tedious this project I am working on is....then I read this thread.  That project is looking pretty exciting right now. 

[brandx]

Given that he seems to be able to score pretty easily.......

Based on what?

[Dawson Rental]

I can't defend Ners on the whole Derrick/Dawson issue. I think he was wrong on the basketball part of it and it was crazy how the thing became his "white whale". That said, he is a good guy, a smart guy and a huge MU fan. He reported a rumor on another board. He didn't pen 200 posts on Wojo's misuse of JJJ. Cut the guy some slack.

I think that you are soft pedaling the situation a bit.  It went beyond a Derrick/Dawson discussion to the point that I felt that he was basically vilifying a player throughout his senior year.  A player who may not have had all around point guard skills, but who without we surely wouldn't have reached even thirteen wins, and who was a leader and a great representative of the University.  I liked Ners too, I even sent him a PM of support when I thought he was getting jumped on unfairly, then he just seemed to go down a rabbit hole.

[Dawson Rental]

He wasn't the top player. He was the top Senior in a very down year. But of course he hoped for more.  Had he developed we wouldn't have won 13 games last year.  Stuff happens.

Yeah, I have to agree with that distinction.

I assume you mean that MU would have won more than 13 had Steve developed.

[Loose Cannon]

That is true. However, he started out the season playing some and now basically does not play. Who knows how he reacts to that. Given that he seems to be able to score pretty easily, he may believe he is better than the playing time he is getting. He was willing to play the four to help out the team, but I doubt he really wants to play the four. In that case Henry leaving may not be much of a help. I am hoping for no transfers at mid-season or at the end of the year. I could see JJJ transferring at year end, but I would bet on JJJ being here as a senior. Obviously, if Henry leaves there are a lot more minutes to allocate to the other players.

I agree, and Wojo using him at the 4 does limit him displaying his offensive talents.  Hope he hangs around I thinks he will become a big contributor.

[bilsu]

Based on what?

He has averaged 7.2 minutes in 6 games and scored 2.2 points on 6-9 shooting including 1-2 from three. Over 40 minutes that would be over 12 points a game. So I do think he scores pretty easily. Anim is a very good offensive player, but he needs to make better decisions and play better defense.

[Jay Bee]

re: Elijah.. without getting into details, the thought of some for YEARS has been, "man, he is so talented.. but not sure he'll ever reach his potential..." Not surprised to see a mid-season transfer from him. But, he is good.

The father of a Scoop Legend (Austin Grandstaff) was Elijah's travel coach and is helping him with choosing a new school.. Grandstaff is at tOSU, teammate Matt McQuaid is at MSU... with regard to the Buckeyes, though.. I think of Giddens being a frosh this year, big Funderburke coming in.. would it make a lot of sense?

IIRC, mom was always pretty into games... could see him trying to stay fairly close.

[CoachRaymondsClass]

I think that you are soft pedaling the situation a bit.  It went beyond a Derrick/Dawson discussion to the point that I felt that he was basically vilifying a player throughout his senior year.  A player who may not have had all around point guard skills, but who without we surely wouldn't have reached even thirteen wins, and who was a leader and a great representative of the University.  I liked Ners too, I even sent him a PM of support when I thought he was getting jumped on unfairly, then he just seemed to go down a rabbit hole.

Funny how someone on Dodds' board caught Ners right away, but baited him without using his new screen name for Dodds... And Ners bit immediately. Came back right away and said
"I am not Ners" and was caught.  Now people still tease him there and call him Ners which he continues to deny while still playing all his old themes. Maybe Ners is likeable if you know him, but he has some sicko agendas. Now he is on his mid-season transfer thing.

[Nevada233]

Did John Dawson's brother tell him? Ners has been banging the JJ is going to transfer drum for three years now. I didn't believe it then and don't now.

If JJ leaves now, he gets three months to play somewhere next year. If he waits until the end of the year it would make more sense because at least he'd get a full year to play. Maybe JJ leaves and Anim has to grow up fast. Who knows, could happen, but I'm not going to speculate or worry about it.

No I actually havent spoken to Ners in quite some time. Good news John will be playing his first game tomorrow for Liberty vs Princeton. He has grown and worked on his game alot and will be a starter for them. He also has an additional 2 years of eligibility after this season. Sitting out for a whole year is brutual. So I'd hope anyone who is thinking about it thinks long and hard.

Deonte will be playing for Iowa State this weekend too.

My family is forever greatful for the Marquette experience but sometimes things just dont work out.

[Litehouse]

Nevada, thanks for the update on John.  I'll be pulling for him at Liberty an hope he has a great career there.

[Nevada233]

Nevada, thanks for the update on John.  I'll be pulling for him at Liberty an hope he has a great career there.

No problem. We are also happy to see you guys winning (especially against wisconsin). The Big East is looking good again.

[Jables1604]

Please be sure to pass on to your brother that we all send him our best wishes.  He handled the transer situation in a first class manner.

Go Liberty!!!

[willie warrior]

No I actually havent spoken to Ners in quite some time. Good news John will be playing his first game tomorrow for Liberty vs Princeton. He has grown and worked on his game alot and will be a starter for them. He also has an additional 2 years of eligibility after this season. Sitting out for a whole year is brutual. So I'd hope anyone who is thinking about it thinks long and hard.

Deonte will be playing for Iowa State this weekend too.

My family is forever greatful for the Marquette experience but sometimes things just dont work out.

Hope your brother does well at Liberty and finds what he has been looking for.

[Nevada233]

Please be sure to pass on to your brother that we all send him our best wishes.  He handled the transer situation in a first class manner.

Go Liberty!!!

I certainly will. His transfer was a decision he made solely with no pressure from any of us and he never talked bad about Marquette. He drew intrest from Texas Tech, Colorado, Wyoming, Hawaii and others he chose Liberty. Buzz actually helped make it happen. I'll be at his game tomorrow were excited.

[Nevada233]

Hope your brother does well at Liberty and finds what he has been looking for.

Thanks... Hes excited and ready for his increased workload and PT at Liberty.

[brewcity77]

No I actually havent spoken to Ners in quite some time. Good news John will be playing his first game tomorrow for Liberty vs Princeton. He has grown and worked on his game alot and will be a starter for them. He also has an additional 2 years of eligibility after this season. Sitting out for a whole year is brutual. So I'd hope anyone who is thinking about it thinks long and hard.

Deonte will be playing for Iowa State this weekend too.

My family is forever greatful for the Marquette experience but sometimes things just dont work out.

Best of luck to John, truly. Hope Liberty works out well for him. How have things been adjusting to a new coaching staff?

[BM1090]

Wish nothing but the best to John Dawson. Classy kid, hope he excels at Liberty.

I'll definitely be monitoring his progress. He's got a bunch of fans in Milwaukee.

[Nevada233]

Best of luck to John, truly. Hope Liberty works out well for him. How have things been adjusting to a new coaching staff?

Well it was a double adjustment because Coach Layer who recruited him got fired a month after John got there. So automatically the nervousness of a new coach coming in who didnt recruit him started (because the same thing just happened when buzz left) but they assured him that he was going to be part of whoever they brought ins gameplan. So they brought in former LU coach Ritchie McKay who cleaned house and got 5 players who were not meeting expectations off the team and Johns been the leader ever since. They still have alot of work to do but he's gonna play and alot.