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What do you deem "acceptable" as a result for this team this season?

Finish above .500 (play NIT or CBI)
Finish as a solid bubble team but miss out on the big dance (play NIT)
Make big dance but lose in the first round
Make it to at least the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tournament
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PGsHeroes32

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2015, 06:55:43 PM »
Tourney to start.

Nothing short of tourney is ever "acceptable"
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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2015, 07:11:59 PM »
One of surprise teams in country and plays into 2nd weekend.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2015, 07:12:12 PM »
One of surprise teams in country and plays into 2nd weekend.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2015, 08:07:37 PM »
I don't buy that this year.  The previous coach flushed the roster so to speak and Wojo had a considerable amount of rebuilding to do.  Don't know how we get to the 2nd weekend with our inexperience.....but I'm willing have whatever you're having :)

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My comment was tongue in cheek. If this team makes the Dance I will be thrilled. Any progress into the brackets is gravy.

It's kinda like when an F/A 18 Driver is in a bar and gets the smoking hot woman to at least acknowledge his presence. That way, when he sees her leaving with the Warthog Driver, he can take some satisfaction that the evening wasn't a total crash and burn.


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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2015, 09:10:32 PM »
Two different questions for me. I would accept finishing over .500 and being in contention for the NIT. My hopes are for Henry to cut down the nets in April.

As far as reality, I think we go 11-2 in non-conference, 11-7 in conference, and 2-1 at MSG to enter the NCAAs 24-10. I think we'll finish strong, but our RPI drops our seed to the 6-7 range. Any wins in the tourney would be gravy on an unexpectedly good season.
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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2015, 09:13:37 PM »
NIT team.  Have to be stronger at the guard position...stronger and more experienced.  Hope I'm wrong.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2015, 10:00:37 PM »
NIT team.  Have to be stronger at the guard position...stronger and more experienced.  Hope I'm wrong.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2015, 10:04:49 PM »
Wow. Your Tanned Tommy Man Love is showing

Exactly.
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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2015, 01:10:57 AM »
One of surprise teams in country and plays into 2nd weekend.

You can say that again!

One of surprise teams in country and plays into 2nd weekend.

Well, um, ok.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2015, 01:37:51 AM »
You can say that again!

Well, um, ok.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2015, 02:02:30 AM »
NIT team.  Have to be stronger at the guard position...stronger and more experienced.  Hope I'm wrong.

Agreed.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2015, 07:24:23 AM »
Navy

My comment was tongue in cheek. If this team makes the Dance I will be thrilled. Any progress into the brackets is gravy.

It's kinda like when an F/A 18 Driver is in a bar and gets the smoking hot woman to at least acknowledge his presence. That way, when he sees her leaving with the Warthog Driver, he can take some satisfaction that the evening wasn't a total crash and burn.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2015, 07:52:43 AM »
Based on the phrasing of the question, if the team doesn't live up the standard that one votes for, it would be unacceptable (i.e. would put Wojo on the hot seat).

Therefore, "acceptable" would be a solid NIT team as well as being in the conversation as an NCAA Tournament team late in the season. Another season under .500 should put some heat on Wojo. That said, MU has gone 30-34 over the past 2 seasons and this is a very young team who lost basically their only scorer from last season and has no true experienced PG. To find it "unacceptable" for this team to not make the NCAAT just isn't logical.

Obviously I hope that HE is the real deal, Duane becomes a go-to scorer, Fischer dominates the post, etc and the team surprises everyone with a Tourney run, but anything short of that shouldn't be deemed unacceptable.

If we were doing actual predictions, I'd predict that MU spends a lot of the time on the "Last 4 In/Last 4 Out" category and their NCAAT fate will be decided by how they fair in the BET.

This.  We are extremely inexperienced, and a solid NIT bid/discussion about the big dance is acceptable at this point in the rebuild.  Obviously we are all hoping for better than that.
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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2015, 08:01:46 AM »
So if an NIT or bubble team and being a year away with Henry....what will MU be a year from now without him?

Second weekend or bust

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2015, 08:30:12 AM »
So if an NIT or bubble team and being a year away with Henry....what will MU be a year from now without him?

Second weekend or bust

So we can file you in the strongly believe Hank is a one and done category I take it?  :)
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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2015, 08:35:13 AM »
So if an NIT or bubble team and being a year away with Henry....what will MU be a year from now without him?

Second weekend or bust

I agree. If we're an NIT team with a guy projected to be the 8th player taken in the NBA draft can we hope for any more the first year or two after he leaves? Those are Mike Deane expectations.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2015, 09:14:54 AM »
First off, sorry for double post last night. Lenny and Dr. Blackheart we are on the same page. If Henry is one and one, which I believe 100%, we better have success with him now. He will make everyone, especially Luke, much better. I firmly believe we will be surprise team in the country. Henry is a special talent.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2015, 09:33:55 AM »
Wow. Your Tanned Tommy Man Love is showing

?????  I have no idea what you are even saying here or why you would bring him into this.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2015, 09:34:48 AM »
Exactly.

Now, with WW, I have every idea why he brings it up, because he isn't capable of original thought.


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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2015, 09:47:57 AM »
I agree. If we're an NIT team with a guy projected to be the 8th player taken in the NBA draft can we hope for any more the first year or two after he leaves? Those are Mike Deane expectations.

Agree, this is why I said minimum is making the tourney, barring injury.
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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2015, 10:00:17 AM »
Third in the table. HE is best player in conference but will be passed over for recognition in place of an average player on the best squad. Wojo will get COY since Dapper Jay has too many of them. Lose spectacularly in the NCAA Tournament and then spend 13 days sweating Rocky Mountain Oysters on Ellenson playing with Hauser.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2015, 10:14:38 AM »
One of surprise teams in country and plays into 2nd weekend.

That's my view.

I think even with our youthfulness, we will surprise people. If half the posters are right and Henry is a first round NBA selection, we will by definition be into the second round. To be otherwise suggests we have some real problems elsewhere on the team.

That said, I think we are talented and that talent will shine. Villanova is good but we're long past the days when only one conference team makes the NCAA. I think we're as good as just about anyone in our conference outside Villanova and we'll do well.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2015, 10:36:34 AM »
To be otherwise suggests we have some real problems elsewhere on the team.

Two true freshmen running the point. That could potentially be the real problem elsewhere on the team. They could be studs and tc looked promising in Italy but we are overlooking how important having a quality pg is. If they aren't at least solid we won't be good
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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2015, 10:48:58 AM »
Two true freshmen running the point. That could potentially be the real problem elsewhere on the team. They could be studs and tc looked promising in Italy but we are overlooking how important having a quality pg is. If they aren't at least solid we won't be good

Agree that point guard play must be "solid" if by solid you mean the Cadougan/Derrick combo that took us to the second weekend of the tournament three straight years. To many here that would be somewhere between adequate and bad - shouldn't be too high a hurdle.

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Re: Go on record before the drama starts
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2015, 10:53:58 AM »
?????  I have no idea what you are even saying here or why you would bring him into this.

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