It may mean nothing or it may mean everything

[mu03eng]

Eng, don't you have a baby coming in about 15 minutes?  Chilax brother.

Two weeks to go....much rather worry* about this than that


*not really worried about this either, just like to play the crazed fan/$hit stirrer from time to time.

[mu03eng]

Furthermore, why would you expect your centers to guard wing players?

You're Tom Crean and can't recruit a big for $1000 Alex

[brandx]

Who understands their role better and plays better defense?    One of the weaknesses of this team is that there is no one in the 6'7 to 6'9 range.     When Henry sits, MU will have little choice but to play small.    Who will best be able to defend the opposing 4?   Does Sandy's 25 extra pounds earn him time at the 4?  Or is that when Wojo throws some traps and some zone out there?   One of the many questions.

Good point. John Hammonds always says you are who you can defend. Will Sacar or Sandy be able to defend at '4' when necessary? I guess we will find out.

[fjm]

Two weeks to go....much rather worry* about this than that


*not really worried about this either, just like to play the crazed fan/$hit stirrer from time to time.

If child comes late and is born during the Belmont game, will you name your child Wojo WHEN they win?

[mu03eng]

If child comes late and is born during the Belmont game, will you name your child Wojo WHEN they win?

On the list of things I'm going to get buy in from my wife(badger fan, we all have flaws) on the day she is giving birth, this one is like #672 right after me going to bar with buddies to celebrate and right before me sneaking off in a closet with one of the delivery nurses. 

[MUfan12]

my wife (badger fan, we all have flaws)

Thoughts and prayers.

[HoopsterBC]

No, under Buzz, they were centers.

[GGGG]

No, under Buzz, they were centers.

Hayward was in Buzz's second year due to an incomplete roster, but Jae was only occasionally when Otule and Gardner were either out or injured.  I don't recall Jimmy ever playing center.

To say that "they were centers" is an enormous exaggeration. 

[tower912]

Correct.    Otule was supposed to be the center and was injury prone.   Gardner got hurt.  Fulce got hurt.   Mbao came and went.   Jamil played very well as an undersized 5 with Crowder.   

[HoopsterBC]

Jimmy was the power forward, small forward, 2 guard, he guarded there best player at those positions.  I am trying to get across the point that the 2 bigs now are not
the type of players Buzz recruited during his stay here, will see which is better.  I still see Lopez scoring over MU against Stanford.

[mu03eng]

Hayward was in Buzz's second year due to an incomplete roster, but Jae was only occasionally when Otule and Gardner were either out or injured.  I don't recall Jimmy ever playing center.

To say that "they were centers" is an enormous exaggeration.

McMurrow counts too right?  Wasn't our fault his heart wasn't in it.  HEY OH!

[GGGG]

Jimmy was the power forward, small forward, 2 guard, he guarded there best player at those positions.  I am trying to get across the point that the 2 bigs now are not
the type of players Buzz recruited during his stay here, will see which is better.  I still see Lopez scoring over MU against Stanford.

If you are simply saying that Jimmy Butler is a better basketball player than Luke Fischer, then just say that.  Most would agree.

[jsglow]

On the list of things I'm going to get buy in from my wife(badger fan, we all have flaws) on the day she is giving birth, this one is like #672 right after me going to bar with buddies to celebrate and right before me sneaking off in a closet with one of the delivery nurses. 

Queue chick with her story about being left home alone with 2 kids under 30 months when I roadtripped to the Sweet 16 with buddies as the guest of Mark Anglavar back in '94. 

[HoopsterBC]

If you are simply saying that Jimmy Butler is a better basketball player than Luke Fischer, then just say that.  Most would agree.

No, I am not saying that at all.  I am saying that Buzz did not recruit tall white kids at all, MU has 3 of them now.   He recruited a different type of athlete then Wojo has
on his team right now.  Maybe a better student-athlete for sure now. 

[GGGG]

No, I am not saying that at all.  I am saying that Buzz did not recruit tall white kids at all, MU has 3 of them now.   He recruited a different type of athlete then Wojo has
on his team right now.  Maybe a better student-athlete for sure now. 

Luke Fischer and Henry Ellenson are much more athletic than the bigs Buzz recruited.  Chris Otule and Davante Gardner?  Not to mention Aaron Durley and Yous Mbao.

Oh and Otule and Gardner graduated.

[HoopsterBC]

Yes, Buzz was not able to recruit athletes like Luke and Ellenson,  he recruited all stiffs at center, all not rated or 1 star athletes.  Buzz gets an F at that position for
sure.

[Jay Bee]

Eng, don't you have a baby coming in about 15 minutes? 

dude...

[MU82]

Two weeks to go....much rather worry* about this than that


*not really worried about this either, just like to play the crazed fan/$hit stirrer from time to time.

I tell you, man, I am going to be SO honored when you name the little guy "MU82."

[LA]

Yes, Buzz was not able to recruit athletes like Luke and Ellenson,  he recruited all stiffs at center, all not rated or 1 star athletes.  Buzz gets an F at that position for
sure.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Buzz actually bring in Luke?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Buzz actually bring in Luke?

Yep

[Dr. Blackheart]

Do Monterale Clark and McKay count as Buzz bigs?

[Dawson Rental]

It will happen occasionally due to fouls and fatigue.     IMO, we then see Heldt, probably 3 of the 6'5-6 guys (Wally, Sandy, JJJ, Cheatham, Sacar) and Duane.

Take your starting PG out of the game to get more height because you're playing your least experienced post player?  That doesn't sound sound to me.

[tower912]

Duane is perfectly capable as a point.   If Cheatham is in the game, he can handle, too.  Give Heldt a little help up front, and it isn't as if there are a lot of other options, anyway.       If Henry and Luke are out and Heldt is in, some combination of 4 of the other 7 will be in the game.  I listed everyone except Carter, because I definitely want Duane on the floor if Henry and Luke are out, and IMO, I would go for size at in that instance.    But if, for example, it was Duane, JJJ, Wally, and Sandy, you would have the other 4 guys with D-1 experience, as well as size, on the floor with Heldt, and I don't view that as bad.   

[Silkk the Shaka]

Yes, Buzz was not able to recruit athletes like Luke and Ellenson,  he recruited all stiffs at center, all not rated or 1 star athletes.  Buzz gets an F at that position for
sure.

Davante is the best center by far we had at MU since Robert Jackson, and one of the most under-appreciated players in recent memory. It's a shame his senior season was ruined by opponents sagging into the lane on him. Sickening to watch game after game, I felt so bad for him. Even with that handicap, he still put up monster numbers.

You can't look at a guy like Davante and give any HC that brought him in an F at the position.

[WarriorInNYC]

Davante is the best center by far we had at MU since Robert Jackson, and one of the most under-appreciated players in recent memory. It's a shame his senior season was ruined by opponents sagging into the lane on him. Sickening to watch game after game, I felt so bad for him. Even with that handicap, he still put up monster numbers.

You can't look at a guy like Davante and give any HC that brought him in an F at the position.

I see your point, but I wouldn't consider Davante a center.  He was really a PF.  Yes, he played the 5 quite often, but that still doesn't mean he was a center.  If we were to use that logic, we would have to consider Lazar his senior year as a center.