Sad story locally

[ChicosBailBonds]

Three brothers (all kids age 8 to 12) killed and then father turns knife on himself and stabs as well.  Critical condition.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/10/suspect-arrested-after-3-young-brothers-stabbed-to-death-in-los-angeles/

[MU82]

Three brothers (all kids age 8 to 12) killed and then father turns knife on himself and stabs as well.  Critical condition.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/10/suspect-arrested-after-3-young-brothers-stabbed-to-death-in-los-angeles/

Why is this on the political board? There is nothing political about it.

It is a sad story, you're right about that, and should have been on The Superbar.

[Galway Eagle]

Why is this on the political board? There is nothing political about it.

It is a sad story, you're right about that, and should have been on The Superbar.

Unless he wanted to politicize a stabbing... but who on earth would want to politicize the horrendous situation where three very young children were stabbed. 

[MU82]

Unless he wanted to politicize a stabbing... but who on earth would want to politicize the horrendous situation where three very young children were stabbed.

Exactly. Very sad. Not political in the least.

[willie warrior]

Unless he wanted to politicize a stabbing... but who on earth would want to politicize the horrendous situation where three very young children were stabbed.

Yeah, the only politicizing on murders are when a gun is used. That must be the qualifier.

[Galway Eagle]

Yeah, the only politicizing on murders are when a gun is used. That must be the qualifier.

So you enjoy the two wrongs must make a right perspective eh willie? Must have some interesting parenting techniques...

[ChicosBailBonds]

I like the cut of your jib fellas, but feel like you've missed conversations here on the Politics board the last few months.  This post wasn't about an air show.

Let's review if this sad, local story, fits the bill


Black on black crime  (from the politics board).  Check
Death by knife higher than rifles in USA (from the politics board).  Check
Claim that suicides don't happen with knives which is why guns should be banned (from the politics board).  Check
Mental illness \ keep guns away from them as that will stop gun crimes (from the politics board).  Check
Death penalty for this murderer? (from the politics board).  Check


No, this story is exactly where it is supposed to be....on this board. 

Crazy, lunatic, deranged people will do harm to others regardless of what laws are passed or what fairy tale world others think they live in.  It is tragic and sad, but that's the deal. Let's start to assign the blame on the people committing these acts, punishing them appropriately by removing them from God's green earth, and stop the nonsense of assigning blame on the instrument of death.  Crazy lunatics will just use another instrument.

[Galway Eagle]

I like the cut of your jib fellas, but feel like you've missed conversations here on the Politics board the last few months.  This post wasn't about an air show.

Let's review if this sad, local story, fits the bill


Black on black crime  (from the politics board).  Check
Death by knife higher than rifles in USA (from the politics board).  Check
Claim that suicides don't happen with knives which is why guns should be banned (from the politics board).  Check
Mental illness \ keep guns away from them as that will stop gun crimes (from the politics board).  Check
Death penalty for this murderer? (from the politics board).  Check


No, this story is exactly where it is supposed to be....on this board. 

Crazy, lunatic, deranged people will do harm to others regardless of what laws are passed or what fairy tale world others think they live in.  It is tragic and sad, but that's the deal. Let's start to assign the blame on the people committing these acts, punishing them appropriately by removing them from God's green earth, and stop the nonsense of assigning blame on the instrument of death.  Crazy lunatics will just use another instrument.

But knives are controlled there was no massive group sh*tting themselves that their rights were being taken away when laws were passed banning switch blades or blades of a certain length. Meanwhile you even mention gun regulation to decrease some violence, people go nuts. And I'm quit certain that since the constitution was written in the 1700s that knives were just as much a part of the whole right to bare arms as guns were.

[MU82]

Chicos continues his "Knives Are Worse Than Guns, Which Of Course I Don't Like" Tour.

500th verse, same as the first!

[ChicosBailBonds]

Chicos continues his "Knives Are Worse Than Guns, Which Of Course I Don't Like" Tour.

500th verse, same as the first!

Knives are worse than rifles.  Factual.

When guns banned in the UK, murders went up. Factual.

[MU82]

Knives are worse than rifles.  Factual.

When guns banned in the UK, murders went up. Factual.

Absolutely, I agree. Every kid born in the U.S. should get a rifle with his birth certificate. And we must ban knives and blunt objects.

Keep on keepin' on, Chicos. You're a hoot.

And you don't like guns.

And you politicized this "sad story."

[ChicosBailBonds]

Absolutely, I agree. Every kid born in the U.S. should get a rifle with his birth certificate. And we must ban knives and blunt objects.

Keep on keepin' on, Chicos. You're a hoot.

And you don't like guns.

And you politicized this "sad story."

Don't like guns.  Check

Put this story exactly where it was supposed to go...on this board.  Check

That seems silly to give a baby a rifle, their arms aren't long enough and their heads can't be held up enough to see down the site.

I don't think we should ban knives or blunt objects.  Same reason we shouldn't ban guns.  Crazy people do crazy things with tools, implements, machines....these inanimate objects don't act on their own....cuz they are inanimate. 

[MU82]

Don't like guns.  Check

Put this story exactly where it was supposed to go...on this board.  Check

That seems silly to give a baby a rifle, their arms aren't long enough and their heads can't be held up enough to see down the site.

I don't think we should ban knives or blunt objects.  Same reason we shouldn't ban guns.  Crazy people do crazy things with tools, implements, machines....these inanimate objects don't act on their own....cuz they are inanimate.

Not to mention pens.

Mightier than swords, sources say.

Oh, and believe me, I know you put the story exactly where you thought it should go.

[Galway Eagle]

If knives were actually capable of doing more harm than guns we'd be fighting wars with knives and we'd be living by the rules the Cherokee and other tribes set up.

[77ncaachamps]

If knives were actually capable of doing more harm than guns we'd be fighting wars with knives and we'd be living by the rules the Cherokee and other tribes set up.

THANK YOU!

I'd rather take my chances with a knife than a gun!

[ChicosBailBonds]

If knives were actually capable of doing more harm than guns we'd be fighting wars with knives and we'd be living by the rules the Cherokee and other tribes set up.

False logic....now, the question is do you know why it is?

[JWags85]

While it is hilarious, this is probably my favorite take on it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzHMFZalsMM

[Galway Eagle]

False logic....now, the question is do you know why it is?

Nope but I'm sure you being the most logical person in the world would love to tell me.  Btws I'd look up belief bias.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Posting this for the purpose of provoking a discussion on gun control is just bizarre. 

[MU82]

Posting this for the purpose of provoking a discussion on gun control is just bizarre.

Exactly.

Next, it will be:

Sad story -- car accident kills 4. (See, cars are also worse than guns, which I continue to say I "don't like.")

Oh, and good job moving this to Superbar!

[Galway Eagle]

Exactly.

Next, it will be:

Sad story -- car accident kills 4. (See, cars are also worse than guns, which I continue to say I "don't like.")

Oh, and good job moving this to Superbar!

Anything except guns

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Let me "splain it to you     "people kill people" with anything that is available.  More often without a gun. One guy even did his wife in with a champagne bottle.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Let me "splain it to you     "people kill people" with anything that is available.  More often without a gun. One guy even did his wife in with a champagne bottle.

Correct.  This is why when guns were banned in the UK, the murder rate went UP.  People find another way to do what they are going to do.  Suicide is another one.  I love the argument that guns cause suicides.  Uhm, no they don't.  Having had to experience this with someone in my family, they want to kill themselves they find all kinds of creative ways to do it.

This is why this thread belongs where it was....in the political section, but ghosts in the machine.  I'm guessing a screenwriter from So. Cal...the rain makes people do silly things out here.

[MU82]

Correct.  This is why when guns were banned in the UK, the murder rate went UP.  People find another way to do what they are going to do.  Suicide is another one.  I love the argument that guns cause suicides.  Uhm, no they don't.  Having had to experience this with someone in my family, they want to kill themselves they find all kinds of creative ways to do it.

I've already surrendered on this. Hence my call for more and more and more guns. If I run for office -- and I might -- my platform will be guns and birth certificates (in that order) will be issued to every newborn.

It will work because it's the opposite of what England did.

Meanwhile, it sure is a sad story about those knife deaths. Because that was the post's original purpose, to just make us remember that fine family.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Correct.  This is why when guns were banned in the UK, the murder rate went UP.  People find another way to do what they are going to do.  Suicide is another one.  I love the argument that guns cause suicides.  Uhm, no they don't.  Having had to experience this with someone in my family, they want to kill themselves they find all kinds of creative ways to do it.

This is why this thread belongs where it was....in the political section, but ghosts in the machine.  I'm guessing a screenwriter from So. Cal...the rain makes people do silly things out here.

You really are a piece of work. Any statistic can be manipulated to prove a point.  Any single example can be an exception.  You're telling me if someone is driven to kill they are going to find a way?  Stunning.

Can a lunatic find a way to commit a horrible crime even if there were more restrictions in place?  Of course. 

Can more restrictions prevent a lunatic from committing mass casualties that otherwise wouldn't have happened?  Of course. 

There's no perfect solution.  Fortunately, I've never lost someone to any kind of violent crime.  However, if I had and I was reading this message board I would be astounded at what a complete and total a-hole you are. 

Mods - Feel free to temporarily ban me but I don't think this deserves anything more.

Cheers.