2015-16 NFC North/NFL thread

[wadesworld]

Skol Vikings!

The CONSENSUS!!

Yup, the Consensus 2nd place finisher in the NFC North remains in 2nd place in the NFC North.

[MU82]

At the 2 minute warning, my Southside Chicago born-and-raised father-in-law says: "I tink dis is da worst game da Bears have ever played."

I responded that, sadly, it probably wasn't even in the bottom 10.

[naginiF]

Yup, the Consensus 2nd place finisher in the NFC North remains in 2nd place in the NFC North.

As a Vodka man I wouldn't use that stuff to light my fire pit......but as a Viking's Man I'm pretty happy with a 2nd place NFC North finish this year.  With the D that is young, learning, but impressive (sans week 1) and an O that just lacks stability in the line (a BIG "just" that if rehab and a draft don't address will be an issue) I like our chances next year.

Being a Vikes fan this year is a LOT like being a Marquette fan.....couple of very sub par seasons, 2nd year coach that is looking at sustained success not quick fixes, really good incoming players/rookies/recruits, new facilities being built, and addressing systemic issues head on.  Like the Warriors, the pieces are in place to make a lot of noise in '17 and beyond.  But also, a lot could go wrong. 

IMHO both have found the right leader for the next 7-10 years.

[wadesworld]

As a Vodka man I wouldn't use that stuff to light my fire pit......but as a Viking's Man I'm pretty happy with a 2nd place NFC North finish this year.  With the D that is young, learning, but impressive (sans week 1) and an O that just lacks stability in the line (a BIG "just" that if rehab and a draft don't address will be an issue) I like our chances next year.

Being a Vikes fan this year is a LOT like being a Marquette fan.....couple of very sub par seasons, 2nd year coach that is looking at sustained success not quick fixes, really good incoming players/rookies/recruits, new facilities being built, and addressing systemic issues head on.  Like the Warriors, the pieces are in place to make a lot of noise in '17 and beyond.  But also, a lot could go wrong. 

IMHO both have found the right leader for the next 7-10 years.

I hear ya, their future is certainly brighter than other teams in the Division, but as long as 12 is under center for the Pack, I wouldn't like my chances if I were any other team in the Division, even without Jordy coming back and all the other weapons around him.

I'm not sold on Bridgewater like some experts are, either.

[MU B2002]

At the 2 minute warning, my Southside Chicago born-and-raised father-in-law says: "I tink dis is da worst game da Bears have ever played."

I responded that, sadly, it probably wasn't even in the bottom 10.

I was expecting much worse.  I hope O'Donnell gets an extra day off this week.

[GGGG]

I've been saying the Packers will win the Super Bowl for some time, but the Cardinals are the team that looks really, really good this year. 

[MU B2002]

I've been saying the Packers will win the Super Bowl for some time, but the Cardinals are the team that looks really, really good this year.

That team Palmer stays healthy, no reason they couldn't get there.  Defense looks amazing.

[wadesworld]

I've been saying the Packers will win the Super Bowl for some time, but the Cardinals are the team that looks really, really good this year.

That team Palmer stays healthy, no reason they couldn't get there.  Defense looks amazing.

They look good, but they have also played the Saints, Bears, and 49ers so far, with 2 of them at home.  Those might be 3 of the 4 worst teams in the NFC this year.

I also don't see Larry Fitgerald keeping pace for 1,776 yards and 27 touchdowns this season.

[JWags85]

That team Palmer stays healthy, no reason they couldn't get there.  Defense looks amazing.

Thank god Arians didn't perform well enough in his mock press conference for McCaskey's liking.  Bears really dodged a bullet choosing Trestman there...

[MU B2002]

Thank god Arians didn't perform well enough in his mock press conference for McCaskey's liking.  Bears really dodged a bullet choosing Trestman there...

I started to type a similar comment, but it made me too sad.

Don't worry though, McClellin seems to have found his niche on special teams.

[brandx]

Is Clausen the worst NFL QB anyone has ever seen? Why would any team keep him as a backup?

He gives you a 0% chance to win and he's not going to get better.

And the two things you SHOULD look for in a backup QB are 1) gives the team at least a chance of winning, and 2) has the possibility of developing as an NFL QB.

An inexperienced rookie like Brett Hundley gives you more in both departments than Clausen.

[MU B2002]

Is Clausen the worst NFL QB anyone has ever seen? Why would any team keep him as a backup?

He gives you a 0% chance to win and he's not going to get better.

And the two things you SHOULD look for in a backup QB are 1) gives the team at least a chance of winning, and 2) has the possibility of developing as an NFL QB.

An inexperienced rookie like Brett Hundley gives you more in both departments than Clausen.

I would argue it could be 1 or 2.  Not necessarily "and".  I think if you are going to lose, lose with a guy that could be the future.  I.E.  David Fales.  Not that saying Fales is the future, but Clausen is a known commodity. 

A similar stupid decision is being made in Cleveland.  Gotta see what you have in Johnny.  You know what you have in Josh.

[MU82]

Is Clausen the worst NFL QB anyone has ever seen? Why would any team keep him as a backup?

He gives you a 0% chance to win and he's not going to get better.

And the two things you SHOULD look for in a backup QB are 1) gives the team at least a chance of winning, and 2) has the possibility of developing as an NFL QB.

An inexperienced rookie like Brett Hundley gives you more in both departments than Clausen.

Doubtful.

During my time in Chicago, the Bears started (among others) Henry Burris in a game, Moses Moreno in a game, Jonathan Quinn for 3 games, Craig Krenzel for 5 games, and Cade McNown for an entire season.

And that's just the Bears.

Injuries and emergency situations have caused teams to start a whole lot of awful, awful, AWFUL quarterbacks.

[tower912]

Same old Lions.   Absolutely incompetent OC and a sub-par line (blocking scheme?) has turned Matthew Stafford into Joey Harrington.     Could be the Lions and Bears fighting it our for the #1 overall pick. 

[brandx]

Same old Lions.   Absolutely incompetent OC and a sub-par line (blocking scheme?) has turned Matthew Stafford into Joey Harrington.     Could be the Lions and Bears fighting it our for the #1 overall pick.

Tower, watching the game last night, I couldn't believe what has happened to Stafford over the last couple of years.

Looks to be bad coaching more than anything else - Stafford has very bad mechanics. I was afraid of the guy a couple years ago. Now I view him as Jay Stafford. Sure, he'll make some good throws, but he'll make the bad ones every game as well.

[tower912]

Terrible offensive scheme, poor blocking.   There isn't a quarterback on the planet that can succeed with a crap scheme while having somebody in his grill on almost every throw.    Stafford is not an elite quarterback.   He is, however, the best Lion QB in 60 years.   He just looks bad right now and I think I have made it clear where I place the blame. 

[4everwarriors]

Better than Milton Plum, hey?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

If the Packers win I pick a perfect week in my pick em pool and win sone serious cash. So of course that means they're gonna lose today right?

[Spotcheck Billy]

If the Packers win I pick a perfect week in my pick em pool and win sone serious cash. So of course that means they're gonna lose today right?

bless you for picking GB!

[MU82]

If the Packers win I pick a perfect week in my pick em pool and win sone serious cash. So of course that means they're gonna lose today right?

I'm rootin' for ya.

Beer will be on CSFR!!!!

[jesmu84]

Tower, watching the game last night, I couldn't believe what has happened to Stafford over the last couple of years.

Looks to be bad coaching more than anything else - Stafford has very bad mechanics. I was afraid of the guy a couple years ago. Now I view him as Jay Stafford. Sure, he'll make some good throws, but he'll make the bad ones every game as well.

"Who is Matthew Stafford?"

[MU B2002]

Terrible offensive scheme, poor blocking.   There isn't a quarterback on the planet that can succeed with a crap scheme while having somebody in his grill on almost every throw.    Stafford is not an elite quarterback.   He is, however, the best Lion QB in 60 years.   He just looks bad right now and I think I have made it clear where I place the blame.

[wadesworld]

HAH!

Can I get 1 of Jay?

[wadesworld]

Jared Allen to Carolina.  Interesting.

[brandx]

For a conditional pick, though.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him released after a couple games.