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Quote from: MUfan12 on July 06, 2015, 04:20:06 PM
Make it 15K and allow beer sales, and I'm on board.

Yahtzee. Honestly, I don't see myself getting season tickets if I can't drink damnit.

Benny B

Quote from: MUfan12 on July 06, 2015, 04:20:06 PM
Make it 15K and allow beer sales, and I'm on board.

Yes, the Benny B Thunderdome will serve beer.  No, it won't seat 15,000 (closer to Sultan's 12 is probable).  Groundbreaking is still on schedule for early to mid- 2030.
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Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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Quote from: Benny B on July 06, 2015, 08:46:37 PM
Yes, the Benny B Thunderdome will serve beer.  No, it won't seat 15,000 (closer to Sultan's 12 is probable).  Groundbreaking is still on schedule for early to mid- 2030.

The Benny B Thunderdome won't be necessary after I build the Warrior Code Ain'a Hey Sports Palace, but I'll name one of the concourses after it.
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You guys see that!?
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That is very funny. My hat's off to the person responsible.
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MUfan12

Quote from: Atticus on July 06, 2015, 10:30:00 PM
Dropped to #22 in attendance last year.

13,657

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2015.pdf

The game at the Al torpedoed that. Without it, they would have averaged over 14,300 and finished #19.

keefe

Quote from: MUfan12 on July 06, 2015, 10:43:02 PM
The game at the Al torpedoed that. Without it, they would have averaged over 14,300 and finished #19.

Well, Germany would have won WW II if it weren't for those last few months...


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MU82

Quote from: dgies9156 on July 06, 2015, 04:09:22 PM
Hello... where do you think the money to support our basketball program comes from?

Yes, I know TV plays a role. But having a 17,000 seat arena and the ability to fill it when we're really good matters. It really does.

For years, we played in an arena with 11,700 seats. We sold out every game, to the rafters. We moved to the Bradley Center and average these days about 12,000 to 14,000 tickets sold. Under these circumstances, I see no situation where a 10,000 seat arena would assist us.


So is Coach K a dope for not insisting the Dookies play at the Carolina Hurricanes' PNC Arena? They could draw twice as many fans to the bigger place!

(Yeah, yeah ... I know that Duke is Duke -- and we're not!)
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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Quote from: MUfan12 on July 06, 2015, 10:43:02 PM
The game at the Al torpedoed that. Without it, they would have averaged over 14,300 and finished #19.
during the second down year in a row
"Half a billion we used to do about every two months...or as my old boss would say, 'you're on the hook for $8 million a day come hell or high water-.    Never missed in 6 years." - Chico apropos of nothing

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Grayson Allen on July 06, 2015, 10:48:10 PM
during the second down year in a row

A third coming, realistically.  This season will be critical.  A good Italy trip will build excitement to reverse this, but that is perhaps too optimistic with all the newcomers.

dgies9156

Quote from: MU82 on July 06, 2015, 10:47:41 PM
(Yeah, yeah ... I know that Duke is Duke -- and we're not!)

Not sure where Duke's revenue comes from, but I know a lot of our's comes from the 14,000 to 18,000 people who buy tickets on a regular basis for our games/

I was at Marquette when our Arena seated 11,700. I would have much rather had an 18,000 seat arena at the time any day of the week. Would have loved to watch Al fill an 18,000 seat arena night after night.

Bigger is better! Especially if it is full!

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Quote from: dgies9156 on July 06, 2015, 11:14:28 PM
Not sure where Duke's revenue comes from, but I know a lot of our's comes from the 14,000 to 18,000 people who buy tickets on a regular basis for our games/

I was at Marquette when our Arena seated 11,700. I would have much rather had an 18,000 seat arena at the time any day of the week. Would have loved to watch Al fill an 18,000 seat arena night after night.

Bigger is better! Especially if it is full!
Agreed bigger is better!

Three ideas on the Duke revenues:
- Cost per ticket is higher than MU
- Duke almost certainly pulls in way more from merchandising
- ACC contract provides more $ to ball than MU does
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MU82

Quote from: Grayson Allen on July 07, 2015, 12:00:59 AM
Agreed bigger is better!

Three ideas on the Duke revenues:
- Cost per ticket is higher than MU
- Duke almost certainly pulls in way more from merchandising
- ACC contract provides more $ to ball than MU does

I wasn't really trying to compare our situation to Duke's, which is why I made the parenthetical reference at the end of my post.

From a pure basketball enjoyment standpoint, I far preferred the old Arena to the BC. But I certainly understand we are making more money at the BC. There's no going back.

I think UConn does it pretty well -- plays a few games in Storrs to give that campus feel a few times a year, but it plays all the biggies and most games overall in Hartford.
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source?

Quote from: MU82 on July 06, 2015, 10:47:41 PM
So is Coach K a dope for not insisting the Dookies play at the Carolina Hurricanes' PNC Arena? They could draw twice as many fans to the bigger place!

(Yeah, yeah ... I know that Duke is Duke -- and we're not!)

Why would Duke want to share an arena with NC State?

GGGG

Quote from: dgies9156 on July 06, 2015, 11:14:28 PM
Not sure where Duke's revenue comes from, but I know a lot of our's comes from the 14,000 to 18,000 people who buy tickets on a regular basis for our games/


So since we averaged 14,300 for the games in the BC, the program must be on life support due to the fact that only 300 extra tickets were sold?

Bigger is most definitely not better if it means a loss of gameday atmosphere.

dgies9156

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 07, 2015, 07:42:38 AM

So since we averaged 14,300 for the games in the BC, the program must be on life support due to the fact that only 300 extra tickets were sold?

Bigger is most definitely not better if it means a loss of gameday atmosphere.

Not sure what you mean by loss of game day atmosphere. During Al's finest days -- the mid 1970s -- and our atmosphere was great. Why? Because we won and because our head coach and team members were dynamic and colorful. Being in the Arena had nothing to do with that. Al and the guys did.

A few years back, we put just short of 18,000 people into our building for our games against teams like Georgetown, Loserville, Syracuse, Notre Dame and Villanova. If we're good and playing a BIG game against a name, quality opponent, the game day atmosphere will be there. The NCAA knows that, which is why they play regional tournament games in hellholes like the old and not-so-dearly-departed Metrodome.

If we're losing to the University of Nebraska-Omaha, Western Michigan or UW-Green Bay, we could play our games in the Old Gym down on Clybourn Street and it wouldn't matter!


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Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 06, 2015, 10:52:30 PM
A third coming, realistically.  This season will be critical.  A good Italy trip will build excitement to reverse this, but that is perhaps too optimistic with all the newcomers.

We have one of the ten best prep prospects in the country on our campus and you need an exhibition walkthrough in the land of tagliatelle to build excitement?

Loose Cannon

Quote from: MU82 on July 06, 2015, 10:47:41 PM


(Yeah, yeah ... I know that Duke is Duke -- and we're not!)


  Not YET!
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I doubt the Italy trip will generate much excitement outside of Scoopers.

brewcity77

Quote from: Michael Kenyon on July 07, 2015, 10:02:22 AM
I doubt the Italy trip will generate much excitement outside of Scoopers.

+1

Diehard fans will hang on every Twitter update, casual fans won't even know it's happening.

Nukem2

Quote from: Michael Kenyon on July 07, 2015, 10:02:22 AM
I doubt the Italy trip will generate much excitement outside of Scoopers.
Well, there are a lot of diehard MU fans and boosters who never frequent Scoop.

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