Brady Suspended 4 Games, Serious Question ... When Does Rodgers Get Suspended?

[mu03eng]

Basic facts:

Brady was not punished for under inflating the balls.  FULL STOP  

He was punished for semi, kind of, sort of, maybe knowing that the equipment guys probably, maybe, likely, could have removed air from the balls AFTER the officials ruled them acceptable to play.

Rodgers stated he preferred overinflated balls and does so pre-inspection.  If inspection catches it that is up to them, and there has been no evidence he or anyone in the Packer organization has tampered with the balls after the fact as the Patriots are being punished for.

Lastly, Rodgers in his radio show stated that he overinflated the balls because the very nature of testing them releases air and he wants the balls at the high end of the pressure scale.


So we can bring the silliness to an end, yes?

[Tugg Speedman]

Well done.

Both articles you quote say that Rodgers didn't break the rules.

And they also say Brady did not either.  So if your going to suspend Brady for not breaking the rules, do the same to Rodgers.

[StillAWarrior]

BTW, the Wells report never found "proof" the balls were intentionally deflated.  The best they have is a video that of an assistant trainers taking them into the can for 100 seconds.  They don't know if we was really taking a leak, or did they explain how one can deflate 12 balls in 100 seconds.  Again, they have more on Rodgers than they do on Brady.

But they did find a lot of evidence that the balls were intentionally deflated.  Short of an admission, it's impossible to get "proof" as many seem to want.  They applied a preponderance standard, and I think the evidence was pretty compelling.

Regarding the highlighted portion:

1) While they don't know "if he was really taking a leak" they were intrigued by his claim that he used the urinal in that bathroom.  This was intriguing because the bathroom, which McNally said he used regularly, didn't have a urinal.

2) They tested and found that it was simple to deflate that number of balls in that time frame.  Even for someone who had never done it before.

[warriorchick]

And they also say Brady did not either.  So if your going to suspend Brady for not breaking the rules, do the same to Rodgers.

It's my understanding that Rodgers inflates the balls to his liking before they are inspected and hopes they pass muster.  That's a lot different than tampering with them afterwards.

[Tugg Speedman]

But they did find a lot of evidence that the balls were intentionally deflated.  Short of an admission, it's impossible to get "proof" as many seem to want.  They applied a preponderance standard, and I think the evidence was pretty compelling.

Regarding the highlighted portion:

1) While they don't know "if he was really taking a leak" they were intrigued by his claim that he used the urinal in that bathroom.  This was intriguing because the bathroom, which McNally said he used regularly, didn't have a urinal.

2) They tested and found that it was simple to deflate that number of balls in that time frame.  Even for someone who had never done it before.

Well we also have a lot of proof that Rodgers intentionally over-inflated his footballs, he said so!

Again, the NFL set a new standard yesterday (which I don't agree with) and they are going to need to apply it evenly.

So next year ....

* If Eli Manning wears gloves, does that get a suspension?

* During a home game in December in Minnesota, if players are found warming the balls by using a heater, does that get a suspension?

Side note, Rodgers will never again sneak an over-inflated ball past the refs again.  Will that affect his passing?  If not, why was he so insistent on having them over-inflated?

[StillAWarrior]

Well we also have a lot of proof that Rodgers intentionally over-inflated his footballs, he said so!

Before testing.

Clearly "intentionally obtuse."  Although that shouldn't really be a revelation to me.  Not sure why I keep "biting."

[Tugg Speedman]

It's my understanding that Rodgers inflates the balls to his liking before they are inspected and hopes they pass muster.  That's a lot different than tampering with them afterwards.

Before testing.

Clearly "intentionally obtuse."  Although that shouldn't really be a revelation to me.  Not sure why I keep "biting.:

If it was that important to him, how do we know if did nothing to the balls after inspection?  How do we know an ambitious assistant trainer did not find a way to "please everyone" and give the balls a few pumps when no was looking?  

Has anyone looked into it?  

Are we only waiting for another team (the Bears?) to complain and then open an investigation?  And when that investigation starts, are we all sure Rodgers survives?

My point is this is why setting new standards like they did yesterday matters.  This is why this is such a giant clusterf**k

[mu03eng]

Side note, Rodgers will never again sneak an over-inflated ball past the refs again.  Will that affect his passing?  If not, why was he so insistent on having them over-inflated?

And with this bit of revisionist history out there, I bow out.  As my father always says "never argue with a fool, you'll only end up on their level"

[Tugg Speedman]

And with this bit of revisionist history out there, I bow out.  As my father always says "never argue with a fool, you'll only end up on their level"

What part of this Rodgers quote don't you understand.


I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football," Aaron Rodgers told CBS's Phil Simms pre-Deflategate, "even go over what they
allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it."

Eng, you really disappoint me ... I thought you had an independent mind and were strong enough to think on your own.  It appears you want to "get along" and bash me.  You had such promise.  You're just a sheep

[NavinRJohnson]

Dude, you need serious help.

[mu03eng]

What part of this Rodgers quote don't you understand.


I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football," Aaron Rodgers told CBS's Phil Simms pre-Deflategate, "even go over what they
allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it."

Eng, you really disappoint me ... I thought you had an independent mind and were strong enough to think on your own.  It appears you want to "get along" and bash me.  You had such promise.  You're just a sheep

What part of that phrase says "sneak".  He overfills the balls and leaves it to the officials to determine if they are acceptable or not.  That is the process, no where does he approach "sneak"

Definition:  acting or done surreptitiously, unofficially, or without warning

BTW you can call me a sheep all you want, if choosing to apply logic and rational thought to situations and calling people out when they clearly are choosing to not apply logic to a situation is considered being a sheep.....BHAAAAAA

[StillAWarrior]

If it was that important to him, how do we know if did nothing to the balls after inspection?  How do we know an ambitious assistant trainer did not find a way to "please everyone" and give the balls a few pumps when no was looking?

We don't.  If someone makes an allegation, they should do a preliminary investigation -- re-test the balls at half-time.  If all the balls measure higher than they measured at the pre-game inspection, conduct a full-scale investigation.  If the evidence in that full-scale investigation reveals that it is more probable than not that GB added air after the inspection (and that Rodgers generally knew about it), then punish them.  In other words, treat Rodgers and the Packers the same way that they treated Brady and the Patriots.

But you knew all of this.  I'm going to follow the advice of mu03eng's father.  A little too late, I might add.

[brandx]

Ners?  Ners?

Has an old friend hacked Heisenberg's account?

[Spotcheck Billy]

I thought everyone knew its so cold in GB that after over-inflating the balls pre-game, after sitting on the sidelines before the game starts the PSI will drop to regulation levels by kick-off, simple physics that Rodgers learned in college.

[WarriorInNYC]

Ners?  Ners?

Has an old friend hacked Heisenberg's account?

+1000  I was just about to say the same thing

[RushmoreAcademy]

This is a hilarious thread.
I'm a Bears fan and even I can't stretch this into Rodgers doing something wrong.

In fact, he even won Celebrity Jeopardy yesterday.

[brandx]

This is a hilarious thread.
I'm a Bears fan and even I can't stretch this into Rodgers doing something wrong.

In fact, he even won Celebrity Jeopardy yesterday.

Maybe Heisenberg is upset that Cutler's balls are too soft.

[Tugg Speedman]

Maybe Heisenberg is upset that Cutler's balls are too soft.

I'm not ... but Kristin Cavallari is

[Benny B]

I remember an old comedy bit regarding proposed alcohol testing for Olympic bobsledders... the joke being something along the lines of any team who tested positive and made it to the finish line should automatically receive a gold medal.

If Aaron Rodgers admitted* that he is over-inflating balls, the only punishment the NFL should be doling out is to the opposing team in the form of spotting the Packers 4 points at the beginning of the game.


* Aaron Rodgers has a history of nonchalantly riling up opposing fans and the media.  You can take it at face value, but I'll take 'Most Gullible Scoopers' for $1,000, Alex.

[GB Warrior]

I'm not ... but Kristin Cavallari is

I'll bet he keeps knocking her up to have a fighting chance at a legitimate quarterback in his bloodlines so he can live vicariously through them. Kind of a Ted Thompsion philosophy on the draft - shoot a lot of bullets, hit a lot of targets.

[brandx]

I'll bet he keeps knocking her up to have a fighting chance at a legitimate quarterback in his bloodlines so he can live vicariously through them. Kind of a Ted Thompsion philosophy on the draft - shoot a lot of bullets, hit a lot of targets.

Just what the NFL needs - a whole clan of pouty, interception throwers.

[GB Warrior]

Just what the NFL needs - a whole clan of pouty, interception throwers.

How many is a clan?

[Dish]

If we should be upset about anything, it's that there will be another unvaccinated Cutler child soon.

[brandx]

If we should be upset about anything, it's that there will be another unvaccinated Cutler child soon.

I already hate Cutler cuz he's a Bear, but (well actually I love Cutler cuz he's a Bear and we get to play them twice a year) does he need to throw another stone on the fire?

[Benny B]

I already hate Cutler cuz he's a Bear, but (well actually I love Cutler cuz he's a Bear and we get to play them twice a year) does he need to throw another stone on the fire?

Throwing wet stones on fires is what Cutler does best.