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BM1090

Quote from: LeesWorld on April 18, 2015, 01:41:50 PM
Cassius Winston is listed at 6'1" while Rowsey is listed at 5'10".  Winston is a top 25 pure point while Rowsey is a shoot first guard playing at UNC Ashville.

Winston is definitely not 6'1. But it's still a poor comparison on my part.

muwarrior69

Quote from: LeesWorld on April 18, 2015, 10:16:56 AM
I just don't see a 5'10" scoring guard who put those numbers up at UNC Ashville taking a ton of minutes from Duane Wilson or Traci Carter (or even Haniif Cheatham).  I'd rather the staff go after a freshman or transfer power forward so that we have someone ready to go whenever Henry goes to the NBA and a small forward since we don't currently have that spot on lockdown.

Wasn't Mo Acker 5'8"? That worked out pretty well.

wadesworld

Quote from: MuLeegle1090 on April 18, 2015, 01:47:08 PM
Winston is definitely not 6'1. But it's still a poor comparison on my part.

Yeah I see 2 sites have him listed at 6' and the 3rd (ESPN) at 6'1".

For me personally I don't like a shoot first point guard who shoots a low percentage.  If he's going to shoot that much then he should be off the ball, but at 5'10" and being the same position as Duane Wilson I don't think that's an option.  He'd have to remake his game to play the point if you ask me.  If Wojo thinks he can contribute than good for him and I hope to see it.  I just have my doubts about this one.

wadesworld

Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 18, 2015, 01:57:30 PM
Wasn't Mo Acker 5'8"? That worked out pretty well.

Maurice Acker shot the ball 6.8 times per game at a 44.3% clip and 49.5% clip from 3 point range.  He also got 3.7 APG to 1.2 TO/game.

Rowsey is a high volume, low efficiency chucker who doesn't take care of the basketball.  If you guys think he can go from that at UNC Ashville to a floor general who somehow drastically improves his A:T ratio by taking about 5 steps up in level of competition then good.  I have my doubts that he can do that.


BM1090

Quote from: LeesWorld on April 18, 2015, 02:00:17 PM
Maurice Acker shot the ball 6.8 times per game at a 44.3% clip and 49.5% clip from 3 point range.  He also got 3.7 APG to 1.2 TO/game.

Rowsey is a high volume, low efficiency chucker who doesn't take care of the basketball.  If you guys think he can go from that at UNC Ashville to a floor general who somehow drastically improves his A:T ratio by taking about 5 steps up in level of competition then good.  I have my doubts that he can do that.

Carlino was low efficiency until this year too. I don't think there's much room to improve his A/T ratio while moving up a level but he could definitely improve his shot selection and percentage.

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WarriorPride68

Anyone else notice the games Rowsey didn't shoot 10+ shots?


1-7, 6 pts in 28 min. Vs Jacksonville State

2-8, 5 pts in 25 min. Vs Radford

2-6, 5 pts in 20 min. Vs Gardner-Webb

1-8, 3 pts in 30 min. Vs High Point

1-5, 3 pts in 18 min. Vs Winthrop

brewcity77

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 18, 2015, 04:05:53 PM
Anyone else notice the games Rowsey didn't shoot 10+ shots?


1-7, 6 pts in 28 min. Vs Jacksonville State

2-8, 5 pts in 25 min. Vs Radford

2-6, 5 pts in 20 min. Vs Gardner-Webb

1-8, 3 pts in 30 min. Vs High Point

1-5, 3 pts in 18 min. Vs Winthrop

Not endorsing Rowsey, but I'm a fan of guys that stop shooting when their shot is off.

Dawson Rental

You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

BCHoopster

Quote from: Lee Heisenberg on April 18, 2015, 09:03:00 AM
Sounds like a shorter Jake Thomas

Jake Thomas vs. John Rinka who averaged 45 a game in college with no three point line, seriously, Jake Thomas not even the same startospere

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Lee Heisenberg on April 18, 2015, 09:03:00 AM
Sounds like a shorter Jake Thomas

Yes, all white guards who shoot a lot of threes are exactly the same  ::)
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

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I think Wojo is going to give Carter the keys from day 1. His seemingly non-recruiting of any PG grad transfers is evidence of this. If Carter is truly good enough to lead the team from day 1, one of our biggest needs for 2016-2017 would be a backup PG. Assuming we get two grad transfers and Rowsey (and no one else transfers), we would only have two schollies for 2016. Perhaps Wojo wants to save those for two of Coffey, Hauser, and Kostas. Rowsey could fill in the need for a backup PG and Wojo could focus on recruiting a stud PG in the 2017 class. This would allow Wojo to focus on forwards in the 2016 class and have a pretty well balanced 16-17 squad with a lot of switchables at the 2, 3, and 4.

2015-2016
1: Carter, Haanif
2: Duane, JjJ
3: Lee, Cohen, Anim
4: Henry, Johnson, Wally
5: Luke, Heldt
Redshirt: Rowsey

2016-2017
1: Carter, Rowsey
2: Duane, Haanif, Cohen
3: JjJ, Coffey, Anim
4: Henry, Wally, Hauser
5: Luke, Heldt

I think this might be what Wojo's master plan might be. But who knows?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Tugg Speedman

Quote from: TAMU Lee on April 18, 2015, 08:32:46 PM
I think Wojo is going to give Carter the keys from day 1. His seemingly non-recruiting of any PG grad transfers is evidence of this. If Carter is truly good enough to lead the team from day 1, one of our biggest needs for 2016-2017 would be a backup PG. Assuming we get two grad transfers and Rowsey (and no one else transfers), we would only have two schollies for 2016. Perhaps Wojo wants to save those for two of Coffey, Hauser, and Kostas. Rowsey could fill in the need for a backup PG and Wojo could focus on recruiting a stud PG in the 2017 class. This would allow Wojo to focus on forwards in the 2016 class and have a pretty well balanced 16-17 squad with a lot of switchables at the 2, 3, and 4.

2015-2016
1: Carter, Haanif
2: Duane, JjJ, Cohen
3: Lee, Wally, Anim
4: Henry, Miller
5: Luke, Heldt
Redshirt: Rowsey

2016-2017
1: Carter, Rowsey
2: Duane, Haanif, Cohen
3: JjJ, Coffey, Anim
4: Henry, Wally,  Hauser
5: Luke, Heldt

I think this might be what Wojo's master plan might be. But who knows?

Scratch Miller, going to Uconn

Jay Bee

I don't understand why people use FG%. It's a bad stat.

Anyway, Rowsey shot 2%+ better eFG% than Duane did this past year.

In 2013-14, Rowsey shot 54.6% eFG% in a slightly less (but still heavy) usage role... as a FR.

Carlino hit a good 53.3% this year.

Can Rowsey continue to draw contact in a better conference? That's my Q.

Traditional outlook would seem like we may have a match here.
The portal is NOT closed.

MU82

We need shooters. Period.

We need them next season. We'll need them the season after that. And we'll need them the season after that.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Lee Heisenberg on April 18, 2015, 08:41:00 PM
Scratch Miller, going to Uconn

Dang. I've been on planes all day and missed that one. Really thought we had a good shot. I'll amend my original pos
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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bilsu

Quote from: LeesWorld on April 18, 2015, 11:54:02 AM
I want absolutely no part in a point guard who turns the ball over really dang close to as much as he has assists at a very low major level. I also want absolutely no part of a point guard who shoots the ball 15 times per game.
He was a freshman last year and will have a year to sit out and work on his game. Freshmen generally do not take good care of the ball, which you probably will find out with Tarci Carter next  year.

wadesworld

Quote from: bilsu on April 18, 2015, 09:54:01 PM
He was a freshman last year and will have a year to sit out and work on his game. Freshmen generally do not take good care of the ball, which you probably will find out with Tarci Carter next  year.

He just finished his sophomore year at UNC Ashville. I'm not sure how much better that issue will become with a year off but about a 5 step jump in competition level.

MuMark

He was a sophomore last year.....He turned it over a little over twice a game last year playing over 32 minutes. .

Carlino turned it over at slightly higher numbers his first 2 years at BYU and at similar numbers last year for us.

Competition will be higher but so will talent around him.

Last season he had 1 turnover against Wake in 39 minutes...against South Carolina he had 2 turnovers in 31.

If Wojo thinks he can help us then I say bring him on .He had some huge games(30 at South Carolina...26 @ Wake and some nothing games(like Duane did) His efficiency should go up as his usage comes down.

77ncaachamps

I say NO.

Though he does bring experience and scoring, he looks like a lesser Rotnei Clarke: gritty, undersized scorer who will be a defensive liability.
SS Marquette

jsglow

I'll trust Wojo to evaluate guard play.  I just know that Marquette's hasn't been good enough since Vander and Junior left.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: MuMark on April 18, 2015, 10:28:53 PM
He was a sophomore last year.....He turned it over a little over twice a game last year playing over 32 minutes. .

Carlino turned it over at slightly higher numbers his first 2 years at BYU and at similar numbers last year for us.

Competition will be higher but so will talent around him.

Last season he had 1 turnover against Wake in 39 minutes...against South Carolina he had 2 turnovers in 31.

If Wojo thinks he can help us then I say bring him on .He had some huge games(30 at South Carolina...26 @ Wake and some nothing games(like Duane did) His efficiency should go up as his usage comes down.

Worth pointing out Wake went 13-19 (lost to Delaware State) & South Carolina went 17-16 (lost to Charlotte), not world beaters.

Here are his games vs Ncaa tourney teams last year:

5-17, 31 minutes (1 TO, 6 ast) in loss to UAB

4-10, 37 minutes (3 TO, 5 ast) in win over Coastal Carolina

2-11, 17 minutes (1 TO, 0 ast) in loss to Coastal Carolina

4-11, 38 minutes (5 TO, 2 ast) in loss to Coastal Carolina

GGGG

Wake and South Carolina were better teams than Coastal Carolina though.  His play versus higher level opponents is much better than Jake Thomas' was when he transferred here. 

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