Marquette on Andrew Rowsey

[Skatastrophy]

Transfer out of UNC-Asheville, their top scorer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_AAf5DWhBQ

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/ucathleticsblog/2015/04/17/cincinnati-bearcats-unc-asheville-transfer-andrew-rowsey/25932877/

The 5-10 guard averaged 20.3 points per game as a freshman and 19.2 ppg last season while making 208 3-pointers over that span.

He was the first sophomore in the 55-year history of the program to score more than 1,000 points and accounted for nearly 25 percent of his team's points last season.

Asheville coach Nick McDevitt declined to say whether he was surprised when his leading scorer came into his office earlier this week and told him of his plans.

"He expressed a desire to compete for a national championship and play in a Final Four (at a larger school)," said McDevitt, who is 32-31 in two seasons with the Bulldogs.

"I told him I respected his decision."

[We R Final Four]

Transfer out of UNC-Asheville, their top scorer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_AAf5DWhBQ

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/ucathleticsblog/2015/04/17/cincinnati-bearcats-unc-asheville-transfer-andrew-rowsey/25932877/

Wow--that kid can score.  Duquesne a Final Four hopeful, ai na?

[wadesworld]

Could do worse, but would we really want to take him on? Looks like a sophomore transfer so he'd sit during Traci's freshman year and then compete for minutes as a junior with sophomore Traci? And would end up in the same class as Duane.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Could do worse, but would we really want to take him on? Looks like a sophomore transfer so he'd sit during Traci's freshman year and then compete for minutes as a junior with sophomore Traci? And would end up in the same class as Duane.

Yes. Depth is useful. Use your schollies.

[BCHoopster]

Reminds a little bit like John Rinka, small guard that knows how to score and get open.  Why not take him?

[Tugg Speedman]

Reminds a little bit like John Rinka, small guard that knows how to score and get open.  Why not take him?

Sounds like a shorter Jake Thomas

[wadesworld]

Yes. Depth is useful. Use your schollies.

I agree with that but I'm not sure what the need for an undersized guard that will be the same year and a year older than the 2 guys he'd be competing most for minutes would be. I have faith that Wojo can find someone just as good as this kid but with a skill set that isn't already sitting in our starting lineup.

[Dawson Rental]

I agree with that but I'm not sure what the need for an undersized guard that will be the same year and a year older than the 2 guys he'd be competing most for minutes would be. I have faith that Wojo can find someone just as good as this kid but with a skill set that isn't already sitting in our starting lineup.

We've got someone in our starting lineup who led his college team in assists as both a freshman and a sophomore?  Who do we have who shot nearly 40% on his 3 pointers as a freshman and sophomore?  Who shot 87.7% on free throws?  Who has scored 1,244 points in the last two years?  Who was the second-leading scorer (20.3 points per game) among Division I freshmen in 2013-14?

As of Thursday evening, he already had visits lined up to N.C. State and Cincinnati. A trip to South Carolina was in the works.

[esotericmindguy]

Sounds like a shorter Jake Thomas

Jake Thomas was a walk on after his sophomore year. He shot 34 percent from 3 as a sophomore at South Dakota, in a conference that featured 7 newly converted DI programs. KenPom ranked conference 31st out of 32 in 2011. Thomas sat out a year, barely played and then decided to transfer out of Marquette and still could not find a decent option and returned for another lackluster year.  

Rowsey is one of the nations leading scorers, shot over 40% from 3, and is being recruited by Cincinnati, South Carolina, NC State, Duquesne, & Marquette. Played in a much better conference and scored 26 vs. Wake, 30 vs. South Carolina, 29 vs. Charlotte & 18 vs. UAB. Had ORat of 113, 140, 113 & 112 in those games.

I see their both white guards, is that what you're using to compare the two? Dumb comment.

[wadesworld]

We've got someone in our starting lineup who led his college team in assists as both a freshman and a sophomore?  Who do we have who shot nearly 40% on his 3 pointers as a freshman and sophomore?  Who shot 87.7% on free throws?  Who has scored 1,244 points in the last two years?  Who was the second-leading scorer (20.3 points per game) among Division I freshmen in 2013-14?

As of Thursday evening, he already had visits lined up to N.C. State and Cincinnati. A trip to South Carolina was in the works.

I just don't see a 5'10" scoring guard who put those numbers up at UNC Ashville taking a ton of minutes from Duane Wilson or Traci Carter (or even Haniif Cheatham).  I'd rather the staff go after a freshman or transfer power forward so that we have someone ready to go whenever Henry goes to the NBA and a small forward since we don't currently have that spot on lockdown.

[esotericmindguy]

I just don't see a 5'10" scoring guard who put those numbers up at UNC Ashville taking a ton of minutes from Duane Wilson or Traci Carter (or even Haniif Cheatham).  I'd rather the staff go after a freshman or transfer power forward so that we have someone ready to go whenever Henry goes to the NBA and a small forward since we don't currently have that spot on lockdown.

So you think a 157th ranked point guard putting up similar numbers at Life Center Academy the better bet? You'd think peeps on this board would learn from over hyping players. Weren't Reggie Smith & TJ Taylor supposed to be great at Marquette? I'd rather take a kid who has performed on a high level. He has performed vs. high major programs. I'm tired over the revolving door of over hyped - under performing freshman. Marquette has a MUCH better track record with JUCO and transfers. Guys who have performed against men.

[wadesworld]

So you think a 157th ranked point guard putting up similar numbers at Life Center Academy the better bet? You'd think peeps on this board would learn from over hyping players. Weren't Reggie Smith & TJ Taylor supposed to be great at Marquette? I'd rather take a kid who has performed on a high level. He has performed vs. high major programs. I'm tired over the revolving door of over hyped - under performing freshman. Marquette has a MUCH better track record with JUCO and transfers. Guys who have performed against men.

Don't recall ever hearing Reggie Smith was going to be a stud. Traci Carter was injured during his junior summer league season (when players get evaluated the most). We've heard from a number of people that the staff thinks that Traci can run the point from day 1. Given that our staff includes multiple point guards that played at the highest collegiate level, I think I'll trust them over some guys who didn't even get to evaluate Traci because he wasn't playing due to injury.

What high major teams has this kid proven he can perform against? Their 5 "highest major" opponents last year were Wake Forest, UAB, South Carolina, UNC Charlotte, and East Carolina. He has proven he can perform against high major players just about as little as Traci Carter has. Not to mention this kid would be playing off the ball, aka a 5'10" shooting guard. That's not very encouraging in the Big East.

People here called Car3no a chucker this past season. This kid makes Car3no look like he's Derrick Wilson hesitant to pull the trigger. Carlino attmepted 11.4 FA/game this season and made 40.4% of them. This kid took 14.5 FA/game and made 39.4% of them (horrible). Carlino took 7.2 3ptFA/game and made 41.9% of them while this kid took 8.6 3ptFA/game while making 38.2% of them. People call Car3no a chucker and say he's the worst passer they've ever seen, yet now we desperately want a 5'10" shooting guard who shoots a ton more and less efficiently in less minutes and who has lower APG and higher TO/game? Not to mention would be playing the same position and in the same class as Duane Wilson. Okay then. I guess I'm crazy.

[Dawson Rental]

Don't recall ever hearing Reggie Smith was going to be a stud. Traci Carter was injured during his junior summer league season (when players get evaluated the most). We've heard from a number of people that the staff thinks that Traci can run the point from day 1. Given that our staff includes multiple point guards that played at the highest collegiate level, I think I'll trust them over some guys who didn't even get to evaluate Traci because he wasn't playing due to injury.

What high major teams has this kid proven he can perform against? Their 5 "highest major" opponents last year were Wake Forest, UAB, South Carolina, UNC Charlotte, and East Carolina. He has proven he can perform against high major players just about as little as Traci Carter has. Not to mention this kid would be playing off the ball, aka a 5'10" shooting guard. That's not very encouraging in the Big East.

People here called Car3no a chucker this past season. This kid makes Car3no look like he's Derrick Wilson hesitant to pull the trigger. Carlino attmepted 11.4 FA/game this season and made 40.4% of them. This kid took 14.5 FA/game and made 39.4% of them (horrible). Carlino took 7.2 3ptFA/game and made 41.9% of them while this kid took 8.6 3ptFA/game while making 38.2% of them. People call Car3no a chucker and say he's the worst passer they've ever seen, yet now we desperately want a 5'10" shooting guard who shoots a ton more and less efficiently in less minutes and who has lower APG and higher TO/game? Not to mention would be playing the same position and in the same class as Duane Wilson. Okay then. I guess I'm crazy.

What confuses me is you assuming that he will play shooting guard since he most likely has been playing the point as evidenced by him leading his team in assists both years.  I believe that Wojo's interest is due to the fact that he's a point guard.  He would really help next year in giving the starters practice defending against a point guard who can hit the three point shot during practices.  Then the year after he would provide great competition against Traci for minutes.  This interest on Wojo's part, IMO indicates that Wojo believes that Duane's best position is the off guard.

[BM1090]

Goodman reporting he will visit MU

[wadesworld]

What confuses me is you assuming that he will play shooting guard since he most likely has been playing the point as evidenced by him leading his team in assists both years.  I believe that Wojo's interest is due to the fact that he's a point guard.  He would really help next year in giving the starters practice defending against a point guard who can hit the three point shot during practices.  Then the year after he would provide great competition against Traci for minutes.  This interest on Wojo's part, IMO indicates that Wojo believes that Duane's best position is the off guard.

I want absolutely no part in a point guard who turns the ball over really dang close to as much as he has assists at a very low major level. I also want absolutely no part of a point guard who shoots the ball 15 times per game.

[MuMark]

I want absolutely no part in a point guard who turns the ball over really dang close to as much as he has assists at a very low major level. I also want absolutely no part of a point guard who shoots the ball 15 times per game.

relax....Wojo apparently disagrees with you......and he has seen him play....

ps and it isn't just Wojo.....Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN  21m21 minutes ago
UNC Asheville transfer Andrew Rowsey (19.2 ppg) told ESPN he'll visit Marquette, N.C. State and Va Tech. Tennessee, Cinci, Vandy, SC called.

[wadesworld]

relax....Wojo apparently disagrees with you......and he has seen him play....

We'll see how much real interest there is. If Wojo goes and gets him he knows better what he wants to do than I do. I just don't see any role for him on this team, but if he wants to come in and give Duane a 5 minute break then sure he can force our players to defend the 3 point line in practice otherwise.

[esotericmindguy]

Don't recall ever hearing Reggie Smith was going to be a stud. Traci Carter was injured during his junior summer league season (when players get evaluated the most). We've heard from a number of people that the staff thinks that Traci can run the point from day 1. Given that our staff includes multiple point guards that played at the highest collegiate level, I think I'll trust them over some guys who didn't even get to evaluate Traci because he wasn't playing due to injury.

What high major teams has this kid proven he can perform against? Their 5 "highest major" opponents last year were Wake Forest, UAB, South Carolina, UNC Charlotte, and East Carolina. He has proven he can perform against high major players just about as little as Traci Carter has. Not to mention this kid would be playing off the ball, aka a 5'10" shooting guard. That's not very encouraging in the Big East.

People here called Car3no a chucker this past season. This kid makes Car3no look like he's Derrick Wilson hesitant to pull the trigger. Carlino attmepted 11.4 FA/game this season and made 40.4% of them. This kid took 14.5 FA/game and made 39.4% of them (horrible). Carlino took 7.2 3ptFA/game and made 41.9% of them while this kid took 8.6 3ptFA/game while making 38.2% of them. People call Car3no a chucker and say he's the worst passer they've ever seen, yet now we desperately want a 5'10" shooting guard who shoots a ton more and less efficiently in less minutes and who has lower APG and higher TO/game? Not to mention would be playing the same position and in the same class as Duane Wilson. Okay then. I guess I'm crazy.

So they think Traci can start from day 1 but they're recruiting a "horrible" shooting chucker at the PG position, who won't be available until Traci's second year. They're also recruiting Shonn Miller who played at Cornell and will be available for Traci's first year. Everyone was excited about him and he shot 30% from 3 last year in the Ivy League.

I think I'll trust the high major programs recruiting this kid over your opinion.

[wadesworld]

So they think Traci can start from day 1 but they're recruiting a "horrible" shooting chucker at the PG position, who won't be available until Traci's second year. They're also recruiting Shonn Miller who played at Cornell and will be available for Traci's first year. Everyone was excited about him and he shot 30% from 3 last year in the Ivy League.

I think I'll trust the high major programs recruiting this kid over your opinion.

That's fine. I'll trust BigDaddy knows what he's talking about. Shonn Miller is a 6'7" forward so not sure what our recruitment of him has to do with Traci Carter being able to start at the PG from day one, but okay?

[Pakuni]

I want absolutely no part in a point guard who turns the ball over really dang close to as much as he has assists at a very low major level. I also want absolutely no part of a point guard who shoots the ball 15 times per game.

So, if Cameron Payne or DeAngelo Russell wanted to come to MU, you'd turn them away?
I suspect Rowsey's shot totals might look different on a different team.

[BM1090]

We'll see how much real interest there is. If Wojo goes and gets him he knows better what he wants to do than I do. I just don't see any role for him on this team, but if he wants to come in and give Duane a 5 minute break then sure he can force our players to defend the 3 point line in practice otherwise.

He's the same size as Cassius Winston (who has yet to prove he can play at the college level) and everyone here really wants us to land him.

[wadesworld]

So, if Cameron Payne or DeAngelo Russell wanted to come to MU, you'd turn them away?
I suspect Rowsey's shot totals might look different on a different team.

You're right, I should've differentiated between a point guard who gets 6 APG to 2.5 TOPG and shoots 46% on his 15 FGA/game at a mid major school (Payne) and one who gets 3 APG to 2.7 TOPG while shooting under 40% on his 15 FGA/game at a very low major school (Rowsey).  I want nothing to do with the guy who is very inefficient and looks for his own shot first, second, and third at a low level of competition.  If a point guard can come in and distribute the ball well and be very efficient while still putting up 15 shots per game then great.  That is not Rowsey.  We all thought Carlino's shots would go down as well.  When you're a chucker you're a chucker.

The guy gets almost as many turnovers per game as he gets assists per game while playing at UNC Ashville and against their very low major schedule.  Sorry if I am concerned that he may not be able to successfully run the point guard position in the Big East and see that we already have a high scoring 2 guard on the team in the same class as the kid (following the redshirt he would need due to the transfer).  If you guys think he can come in and be a stud so be it.  I guess we will see where he ends up and what he does.  My guess is he ends up at Duquesne or a similar program and says his other 2 "finalists" were programs like MU, Cinci, or NC State but Duquesne "offered him a chance to play right away" and "was the best fit for him."  (Also known as, I never really got an offer from those high majors.  I called some, we had a conversation and that was "interest")

[BM1090]

You're right, I should've differentiated between a point guard who gets 6 APG to 2.5 TOPG and shoots 46% on his 15 FGA/game at a mid major school (Payne) and one who gets 3 APG to 2.7 TOPG while shooting under 40% on his 15 FGA/game at a very low major school (Rowsey).  I want nothing to do with the guy who is very inefficient and looks for his own shot first, second, and third at a low level of competition.  If a point guard can come in and distribute the ball well and be very efficient while still putting up 15 shots per game then great.  That is not Rowsey.  We all thought Carlino's shots would go down as well.  When you're a chucker you're a chucker.

The guy gets almost as many turnovers per game as he gets assists per game while playing at UNC Ashville and against their very low major schedule.  Sorry if I am concerned that he may not be able to successfully run the point guard position in the Big East and see that we already have a high scoring 2 guard on the team in the same class as the kid (following the redshirt he would need due to the transfer).  If you guys think he can come in and be a stud so be it.  I guess we will see where he ends up and what he does.  My guess is he ends up at Duquesne or a similar program and says his other 2 "finalists" were programs like MU, Cinci, or NC State but Duquesne "offered him a chance to play right away" and "was the best fit for him."  (Also known as, I never really got an offer from those high majors.  I called some, we had a conversation and that was "interest")

He's visiting both Marquette and NC State. Theres gotta be more than interest.

There are worse things than a backup PG who can hit the three consistently. If we were recruiting him to start then I'd be worried but he'd probably be a 15 mpg guy who can hit some shots off the bench.

[wadesworld]

He's the same size as Cassius Winston (who has yet to prove he can play at the college level) and everyone here really wants us to land him.

Cassius Winston is listed at 6'1" while Rowsey is listed at 5'10".  Winston is a top 25 pure point while Rowsey is a shoot first guard playing at UNC Ashville.

[wadesworld]

He's visiting both Marquette and NC State. Theres gotta be more than interest.

There are worse things than a backup PG who can hit the three consistently. If we were recruiting him to start then I'd be worried but he'd probably be a 15 mpg guy who can hit some shots off the bench.

I guess we will see.  I have a hard time believing a kid would want to go from taking 15 shots per game to getting 15 minutes per game.  But we will see what the interest level is.

[BM1090]

Cassius Winston is listed at 6'1" while Rowsey is listed at 5'10".  Winston is a top 25 pure point while Rowsey is a shoot first guard playing at UNC Ashville.

Winston is definitely not 6'1. But it's still a poor comparison on my part.

[muwarrior69]

I just don't see a 5'10" scoring guard who put those numbers up at UNC Ashville taking a ton of minutes from Duane Wilson or Traci Carter (or even Haniif Cheatham).  I'd rather the staff go after a freshman or transfer power forward so that we have someone ready to go whenever Henry goes to the NBA and a small forward since we don't currently have that spot on lockdown.

Wasn't Mo Acker 5'8"? That worked out pretty well.

[wadesworld]

Winston is definitely not 6'1. But it's still a poor comparison on my part.

Yeah I see 2 sites have him listed at 6' and the 3rd (ESPN) at 6'1".

For me personally I don't like a shoot first point guard who shoots a low percentage.  If he's going to shoot that much then he should be off the ball, but at 5'10" and being the same position as Duane Wilson I don't think that's an option.  He'd have to remake his game to play the point if you ask me.  If Wojo thinks he can contribute than good for him and I hope to see it.  I just have my doubts about this one.

[wadesworld]

Wasn't Mo Acker 5'8"? That worked out pretty well.

Maurice Acker shot the ball 6.8 times per game at a 44.3% clip and 49.5% clip from 3 point range.  He also got 3.7 APG to 1.2 TO/game.

Rowsey is a high volume, low efficiency chucker who doesn't take care of the basketball.  If you guys think he can go from that at UNC Ashville to a floor general who somehow drastically improves his A:T ratio by taking about 5 steps up in level of competition then good.  I have my doubts that he can do that.

[Blackhat]

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[BM1090]

Maurice Acker shot the ball 6.8 times per game at a 44.3% clip and 49.5% clip from 3 point range.  He also got 3.7 APG to 1.2 TO/game.

Rowsey is a high volume, low efficiency chucker who doesn't take care of the basketball.  If you guys think he can go from that at UNC Ashville to a floor general who somehow drastically improves his A:T ratio by taking about 5 steps up in level of competition then good.  I have my doubts that he can do that.

Carlino was low efficiency until this year too. I don't think there's much room to improve his A/T ratio while moving up a level but he could definitely improve his shot selection and percentage.

[SWARM!]

Don't see a fit.

[WarriorPride68]

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Holy crap, now we need him! (Sigh)

[WarriorPride68]

Anyone else notice the games Rowsey didn't shoot 10+ shots?


1-7, 6 pts in 28 min. Vs Jacksonville State

2-8, 5 pts in 25 min. Vs Radford

2-6, 5 pts in 20 min. Vs Gardner-Webb

1-8, 3 pts in 30 min. Vs High Point

1-5, 3 pts in 18 min. Vs Winthrop

[brewcity77]

Anyone else notice the games Rowsey didn't shoot 10+ shots?


1-7, 6 pts in 28 min. Vs Jacksonville State

2-8, 5 pts in 25 min. Vs Radford

2-6, 5 pts in 20 min. Vs Gardner-Webb

1-8, 3 pts in 30 min. Vs High Point

1-5, 3 pts in 18 min. Vs Winthrop

Not endorsing Rowsey, but I'm a fan of guys that stop shooting when their shot is off.

[Dawson Rental]

Don't see a fit.

Until MU gets two other point guards, I do.

[BCHoopster]

Sounds like a shorter Jake Thomas

Jake Thomas vs. John Rinka who averaged 45 a game in college with no three point line, seriously, Jake Thomas not even the same startospere

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Sounds like a shorter Jake Thomas

Yes, all white guards who shoot a lot of threes are exactly the same 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think Wojo is going to give Carter the keys from day 1. His seemingly non-recruiting of any PG grad transfers is evidence of this. If Carter is truly good enough to lead the team from day 1, one of our biggest needs for 2016-2017 would be a backup PG. Assuming we get two grad transfers and Rowsey (and no one else transfers), we would only have two schollies for 2016. Perhaps Wojo wants to save those for two of Coffey, Hauser, and Kostas. Rowsey could fill in the need for a backup PG and Wojo could focus on recruiting a stud PG in the 2017 class. This would allow Wojo to focus on forwards in the 2016 class and have a pretty well balanced 16-17 squad with a lot of switchables at the 2, 3, and 4.

2015-2016
1: Carter, Haanif
2: Duane, JjJ
3: Lee, Cohen, Anim
4: Henry, Johnson, Wally
5: Luke, Heldt
Redshirt: Rowsey

2016-2017
1: Carter, Rowsey
2: Duane, Haanif, Cohen
3: JjJ, Coffey, Anim
4: Henry, Wally, Hauser
5: Luke, Heldt

I think this might be what Wojo's master plan might be. But who knows?

[Tugg Speedman]

I think Wojo is going to give Carter the keys from day 1. His seemingly non-recruiting of any PG grad transfers is evidence of this. If Carter is truly good enough to lead the team from day 1, one of our biggest needs for 2016-2017 would be a backup PG. Assuming we get two grad transfers and Rowsey (and no one else transfers), we would only have two schollies for 2016. Perhaps Wojo wants to save those for two of Coffey, Hauser, and Kostas. Rowsey could fill in the need for a backup PG and Wojo could focus on recruiting a stud PG in the 2017 class. This would allow Wojo to focus on forwards in the 2016 class and have a pretty well balanced 16-17 squad with a lot of switchables at the 2, 3, and 4.

2015-2016
1: Carter, Haanif
2: Duane, JjJ, Cohen
3: Lee, Wally, Anim
4: Henry, Miller
5: Luke, Heldt
Redshirt: Rowsey

2016-2017
1: Carter, Rowsey
2: Duane, Haanif, Cohen
3: JjJ, Coffey, Anim
4: Henry, Wally,  Hauser
5: Luke, Heldt

I think this might be what Wojo's master plan might be. But who knows?

Scratch Miller, going to Uconn

[Jay Bee]

I don't understand why people use FG%. It's a bad stat.

Anyway, Rowsey shot 2%+ better eFG% than Duane did this past year.

In 2013-14, Rowsey shot 54.6% eFG% in a slightly less (but still heavy) usage role... as a FR.

Carlino hit a good 53.3% this year.

Can Rowsey continue to draw contact in a better conference? That's my Q.

Traditional outlook would seem like we may have a match here.

[MU82]

We need shooters. Period.

We need them next season. We'll need them the season after that. And we'll need them the season after that.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Scratch Miller, going to Uconn

Dang. I've been on planes all day and missed that one. Really thought we had a good shot. I'll amend my original pos

[bilsu]

I want absolutely no part in a point guard who turns the ball over really dang close to as much as he has assists at a very low major level. I also want absolutely no part of a point guard who shoots the ball 15 times per game.

He was a freshman last year and will have a year to sit out and work on his game. Freshmen generally do not take good care of the ball, which you probably will find out with Tarci Carter next  year.

[wadesworld]

He was a freshman last year and will have a year to sit out and work on his game. Freshmen generally do not take good care of the ball, which you probably will find out with Tarci Carter next  year.

He just finished his sophomore year at UNC Ashville. I'm not sure how much better that issue will become with a year off but about a 5 step jump in competition level.

[MuMark]

He was a sophomore last year.....He turned it over a little over twice a game last year playing over 32 minutes. .

Carlino turned it over at slightly higher numbers his first 2 years at BYU and at similar numbers last year for us.

Competition will be higher but so will talent around him.

Last season he had 1 turnover against Wake in 39 minutes...against South Carolina he had 2 turnovers in 31.

If Wojo thinks he can help us then I say bring him on .He had some huge games(30 at South Carolina...26 @ Wake and some nothing games(like Duane did) His efficiency should go up as his usage comes down.

[77ncaachamps]

I say NO.

Though he does bring experience and scoring, he looks like a lesser Rotnei Clarke: gritty, undersized scorer who will be a defensive liability.

[jsglow]

I'll trust Wojo to evaluate guard play.  I just know that Marquette's hasn't been good enough since Vander and Junior left.

[WarriorPride68]

He was a sophomore last year.....He turned it over a little over twice a game last year playing over 32 minutes. .

Carlino turned it over at slightly higher numbers his first 2 years at BYU and at similar numbers last year for us.

Competition will be higher but so will talent around him.

Last season he had 1 turnover against Wake in 39 minutes...against South Carolina he had 2 turnovers in 31.

If Wojo thinks he can help us then I say bring him on .He had some huge games(30 at South Carolina...26 @ Wake and some nothing games(like Duane did) His efficiency should go up as his usage comes down.

Worth pointing out Wake went 13-19 (lost to Delaware State) & South Carolina went 17-16 (lost to Charlotte), not world beaters.

Here are his games vs Ncaa tourney teams last year:

5-17, 31 minutes (1 TO, 6 ast) in loss to UAB

4-10, 37 minutes (3 TO, 5 ast) in win over Coastal Carolina

2-11, 17 minutes (1 TO, 0 ast) in loss to Coastal Carolina

4-11, 38 minutes (5 TO, 2 ast) in loss to Coastal Carolina

[GGGG]

Wake and South Carolina were better teams than Coastal Carolina though.  His play versus higher level opponents is much better than Jake Thomas' was when he transferred here. 

[WarriorPride68]

Wake and South Carolina were better teams than Coastal Carolina though.  His play versus higher level opponents is much better than Jake Thomas' was when he transferred here.  

Are we really still doing this caucasian BS comparisons in 2015? Jake Thomas was listed at 6'3 and 205, that is a lot different then a 5'10 175.

That's like comparing John Dawson to Derrick Wilson just cause their black....

[GGGG]

Are we really still doing this caucasian BS comparisons in 2015? Jake Thomas was listed at 6'3 and 205, that is a lot different then a 5'10 175.

That's like comparing John Dawson to Derrick Wilson just cause their black....

I was comparing two players renowned for their shooting when playing at the lowest level of D1.

Jake Thomas was considered quite a scorer, but he struggled shooting against the top level teams he would play on his schedule.  This is why I thought he would struggle at the high D1 level.  This guy seemed to play better against higher level competition than Thomas did, so I think he might be better.

So congrats on making this about race when that was really never my point.  Did you want me to throw a David Singleton reference in there to make you happy?

[Skatastrophy]

Are we really still doing this caucasian BS comparisons in 2015? Jake Thomas was listed at 6'3 and 205, that is a lot different then a 5'10 175.

That's like comparing John Dawson to Derrick Wilson just cause their black....

Wow. Talk about hypersensitive. Keep this crap on Tumblr.

[Dawson Rental]

Worth pointing out Wake went 13-19 (lost to Delaware State) & South Carolina went 17-16 (lost to Charlotte), not world beaters.

Here are his games vs Ncaa tourney teams last year:

5-17, 31 minutes (1 TO, 6 ast) in loss to UAB

4-10, 37 minutes (3 TO, 5 ast) in win over Coastal Carolina

2-11, 17 minutes (1 TO, 0 ast) in loss to Coastal Carolina

4-11, 38 minutes (5 TO, 2 ast) in loss to Coastal Carolina

It looks like after the first game, Coastal Carolina learned their lesson, stop Rowsey and stop UNC Ashville.

[BM1090]

Worth pointing out Wake went 13-19 (lost to Delaware State) & South Carolina went 17-16 (lost to Charlotte), not world beaters.

Here are his games vs Ncaa tourney teams last year:

5-17, 31 minutes (1 TO, 6 ast) in loss to UAB

4-10, 37 minutes (3 TO, 5 ast) in win over Coastal Carolina

2-11, 17 minutes (1 TO, 0 ast) in loss to Coastal Carolina

4-11, 38 minutes (5 TO, 2 ast) in loss to Coastal Carolina

True but Wake and South Carolina are better than those teams. Marquette went 13-19  and was better than those teams.