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SAM DEKKER ENTERING NBA DRAFT
The junior is being tabbed as a potential lottery pick after a strong NCAA tournament. He said: "I love the school and am so grateful for everything, but I think this is the right decision for me as a player and as a person."


Wojo Era

How long until Bo says he isn't allowed to leave until he talks to him, and has no idea how this works?  ;)

Mu2323

Quote from: Wojo Era on April 10, 2015, 11:15:24 AM
How long until Bo says he isn't allowed to leave until he talks to him, and has no idea how this works?  ;)

Seems to be some butt hurt on this board.

NotAnAlum

FINALLY Bo loses a guy early.  (last one was Devin H I believe) I was sure Bo would find some way to avoid what happens at every other D-1 program and get Dekker to stay for his senior year.  Badgers will still be go next year but this certainly brings them back to earth.

Frenns Liquor Depot

How is this not just awesome for UW -- especially if he is successful -- wouldn't that just help recruiting?

Talk about the worst of the worst.  Stay 5 years, don't make the NBA & don't get a degree.

Windyplayer

From afar, Dekker's trajectory at UW seems pretty similar to Blue's...Failed to live up to expectations (perhaps unrealistic) coming out of high school for the first couple of years at the college level, start to show that you figured out a few things your junior year, and then explode in the NCAA Tourney that same year, and then bolt for the draft thereafter.

WarriorInNYC

Quote from: Windyplayer on April 10, 2015, 11:30:35 AM
From afar, Dekker's trajectory at UW seems pretty similar to Blue's...Failed to live up to expectations (perhaps unrealistic) coming out of high school for the first couple of years at the college level, start to show that you figured out a few things your junior year, and then explode in the NCAA Tourney that same year, and then bolt for the draft thereafter.

True, the trajectory is the same, but I'm sure the draft results will be widely different

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Windyplayer on April 10, 2015, 11:30:35 AM
From afar, Dekker's trajectory at UW seems pretty similar to Blue's...Failed to live up to expectations (perhaps unrealistic) coming out of high school for the first couple of years at the college level, start to show that you figured out a few things your junior year, and then explode in the NCAA Tourney that same year, and then bolt for the draft thereafter.

The difference being that Dekker was on the 20-30 range on most boards before the tourney and now moved into the top 20. Vander wasn't on anyone's boards for the year he came out...only on the one after that as mid-2nd rounder.
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CTWarrior

Quote from: Windyplayer on April 10, 2015, 11:30:35 AM
From afar, Dekker's trajectory at UW seems pretty similar to Blue's...Failed to live up to expectations (perhaps unrealistic) coming out of high school for the first couple of years at the college level, start to show that you figured out a few things your junior year, and then explode in the NCAA Tourney that same year, and then bolt for the draft thereafter.

Big difference is that Dekker will be a first round pick.  He was a standup guy after the championship game and is a heckuva player.  If he gets that jump shot to be consistent (no reason to think he won't) he should have a nice career in the NBA.

As much as you may not like Wisconsin or their coach or fans, I personally don't find much to dislike about Kaminsky, Dekker or Hayes.  All good players.
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BM1090

Quote from: CTWarrior on April 10, 2015, 11:38:39 AM
Big difference is that Dekker will be a first round pick.  He was a standup guy after the championship game and is a heckuva player.  If he gets that jump shot to be consistent (no reason to think he won't) he should have a nice career in the NBA.

As much as you may not like Wisconsin or their coach or fans, I personally don't find much to dislike about Kaminsky, Dekker or Hayes.  All good players.

I think there is everything to dislike about Kaminsky. Don't have an issue with Dekker or Hayes.

NickelDimer

Quote from: MUEagle1090 on April 10, 2015, 11:41:12 AM
I think there is everything to dislike about Kaminsky. Don't have an issue with Dekker or Hayes.
Agreed on all three. Kaminsky is incredibly unlikable. I thought watching Dekker was like watching Keith Van Horn on his tourney run with Utah. He has a very fun skill set to watch
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chapman

Quote from: Wojo Era on April 10, 2015, 11:15:24 AM
How long until Bo says he isn't allowed to leave until he talks to him, and has no idea how this works?  ;)

Quote from: NotAnAlum on April 10, 2015, 11:18:58 AM
FINALLY Bo loses a guy early.  (last one was Devin H I believe) I was sure Bo would find some way to avoid what happens at every other D-1 program and get Dekker to stay for his senior year.  Badgers will still be go next year but this certainly brings them back to earth.

Maybe only a couple illogical stays in his time, but I'm glad I'm not the only conspiracy theorist who thinks it possible Bo casts players off on their own if they're considering leaving him early.

Coleman

Quote from: MUEagle1090 on April 10, 2015, 11:41:12 AM
I think there is everything to dislike about Kaminsky. Don't have an issue with Dekker or Hayes.

+1

Dekker and Hayes seem like good dudes.

Kaminisky is as bad as Koenig in likeability.

wadesworld

Quote from: NickelDimer on April 10, 2015, 11:44:49 AM
Agreed on all three. Kaminsky is incredibly unlikable. I thought watching Dekker was like watching Keith Van Horn on his tourney run with Utah. He has a very fun skill set to watch

Good player, but thinks he's tougher than he is.  The stair downs he tries make him look ridiculous.  The pointing at his muscles when there's really nothing there, especially compared to most division 1 college basketball players, was absolutely hysterical.

I like Hayes's game, especially if he stops taking notes from Kaminsky and keeps his a$$ in the paint rather than floating around on the perimeter like he did in the NCAAs.

NickelDimer

Quote from: wadesworld on April 10, 2015, 11:53:54 AM
Good player, but thinks he's tougher than he is.  The stair downs he tries make him look ridiculous.  The pointing at his muscles when there's really nothing there, especially compared to most division 1 college basketball players, was absolutely hysterical.

I like Hayes's game, especially if he stops taking notes from Kaminsky and keeps his a$$ in the paint rather than floating around on the perimeter like he did in the NCAAs.

I did laugh at the pointing of what was supposed to be a bicep. As for Hayes I think if they had run more offense through him in the second half they'd be Nat Champs
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BM1090

Quote from: wadesworld on April 10, 2015, 11:53:54 AM
Good player, but thinks he's tougher than he is.  The stair downs he tries make him look ridiculous.  The pointing at his muscles when there's really nothing there, especially compared to most division 1 college basketball players, was absolutely hysterical.

I like Hayes's game, especially if he stops taking notes from Kaminsky and keeps his a$$ in the paint rather than floating around on the perimeter like he did in the NCAAs.

He's most effective in the wide post but he's a 38% 3P shooter. It's not like he is ineffective out there.

wadesworld

Quote from: MUEagle1090 on April 10, 2015, 11:58:43 AM
He's most effective in the wide post but he's a 38% 3P shooter. It's not like he is ineffective out there.

I don't mind him taking the 3 point shot at all.  But throughout the regular season he took that shot in rhythm just as a catch and shoot, good shot within the offense, kind of like Lazar used to at MU.  Come NCAA Tourney time, he'd take a few dribbles, pick the ball up, think about it, and then throw up a brick.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Wojo Era on April 10, 2015, 11:15:24 AM
How long until Bo says he isn't allowed to leave until he talks to him, and has no idea how this works?  ;)

Does this make Dekker a rent-a-player?

Also, has Hayes announced what his plans are for next year?

Groin_pull

Smart move. Stock will never be higher than it is now. Hope he does well. Seems like a good guy.

On the flip side, wouldn't mind seeing Kaminsky sink.

PuertoRicanNightmare

Quote from: MUEagle1090 on April 10, 2015, 11:41:12 AM
I think there is everything to dislike about Kaminsky. Don't have an issue with Dekker or Hayes.
I disagree whole heartedly. There is something about Dekker that rubs me the wrong way. I don't know if it's an attitude thing or if he's kind of a selfish player or what. There's no doubt he's a very good player and I liked this Badger team, but I wouldn't be happy if the Bulls drafted him.

avid1010

my gut tells me he won't stick in the nba unless he can develop into a lights-out 3 point shooter.  i know there was a lot of talk that he handled himself well against labron, but looking at the kid, i don't see the nba body needed to be a slasher/finisher.

that said, if you're a first rounder you should leave...and i don't think he was too happy with how bo was handling and/or helping him. 

PBRme

Quote from: Wojo Era on April 10, 2015, 11:15:24 AM
How long until Bo says he isn't allowed to leave until he talks to him, and has no idea how this works?  ;)

Bo announced he cannot play for any of the teams in the NBA Western division and plans on going on ESPN tomorrow to complain about how hard he works and the effort it takes to be Madison Coach
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jsglow

Brace yourself guys.  My bet is that either Frank or Sam will be sportin' the Bucks logo.  Then I'll really have to go all in for the Bulls.  But that's a problem too because I like Jabari and can't stand Rose.  Oh the agony.   :-\

AlumKCof93

My sources indicate Dekker is not turning Pro.  He is lulling Bo to sleep and transferring to Iowa.

I am surprised to see the dislike for Kaminsky.  Yes, he whined to the officials and had obvious flops, but thats not unique to him and he really made himself into a heck of a player despite not great athleticism.

Dekker won me when he told Kaminsky during the AZ game to stop complaining to the officials when he didn't get a call.  It was great.
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Quote from: jsglow on April 10, 2015, 12:57:28 PM
Brace yourself guys.  My bet is that either Frank or Sam will be sportin' the Bucks logo.  Then I'll really have to go all in for the Bulls.  But that's a problem too because I like Jabari and can't stand Rose.  Oh the agony.   :-\

Then what are your feelings toward Simeon? Especially with STJ transferring
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