Lavin out at St Johns

[Smokin' Jae]

Per espn

[LAZER]

I imagine they'll give Hurley a call.

[Dawson Rental]

I guess okay results won't do it for them.  One great recruiting year followed by getting some quality but never enough recruits since sealed this for Lavin.  I like this move.

They'll have some great players next year, but struggle finding enough guys to fill out the rotation.  And that's assuming that they don't lose guys to transfer.

[Windyplayer]

Hopefully, they land a solid up-and-coming head coach. Lavin kind of lost that panache he once had so I think some fresh blood will do both the program and conference good.

[fjm]

Just heard that too... Bummer, I really like him as a coach and he seems to be a good guy! Think Ben Howland's interested? HA, just kidding... but seriously.

[LAMUfan]

good move

[Les Nessman]

Just fired from SJU.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25125477/st-johns-parts-ways-with-coach-steve-lavin-after-five-seasons
via http://cbssportsapp.com

[brewcity77]

That will be interesting. Danny Hurley, Steve Masiello, Richard Pitino all being mentioned.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Way too much inconsistency from the Johnnies the past few years.  Some nights they were exceptional, other nights it looked like a playground pickup game.  Without question, it's the best decision for the program.

Both St. Johns (New York) and DePaul (Chicago) having coaching openings could really be big time opportunity for the Big East.  With both major markets open, and plenty of top recruits, the right coaches for the jobs could turn both teams into top-tier programs.  I have more faith in St. Johns hiring a quality coach than DePaul, however.

[MU82]

That will be interesting. Danny Hurley, Steve Masiello, Richard Pitino all being mentioned.

Is St. John's really a step up from Goldy Gopher?

[GoldenWarrior11]

What if Danny Hurley gets St. Johns and Bobby Hurley gets DePaul?

It would look poor for Richard Pitino to leave Minnesota after only two seasons.  He was at FIU for just one season.  Awfully young to be considered the next Kevin O'Neill...

[brewcity77]

Is St. John's really a step up from Goldy Gopher?

On paper, it is. Better history, basketball drives the bus, great recruiting ground, and MSG. The question is if ANY administration will give the new coach the necessary support to make them relevant again.

My hope is for both Hurley brothers to the Big East, though.

[Dawson Rental]

Is St. John's really a step up from Goldy Gopher?

The big apple?  Madison Square Garden?  Are you kidding?

[Dawson Rental]

What if Danny Hurley gets St. Johns and Bobby Hurley gets DePaul?

It would look poor for Richard Pitino to leave Minnesota after only two seasons.  He was at FIU for just one season.  Awfully young to be considered the next Kevin O'Neill...

And, if he does well, a move to Louisville in his future.

[Celtic Truth]

I've heard that Chris Mullin, and both Hurleys are their main targets. All make sense because they are local guys who have connections in the NYC area

[Dawson Rental]

On paper, it is. Better history, basketball drives the bus, great recruiting ground, and MSG. The question is if ANY administration will give the new coach the necessary support to make them relevant again.

My hope is for both Hurley brothers to the Big East, though.

You're being extremely mean to Bobby Hurley.  How about Bobby to St. John's while Danny bides his time waiting on Seton Hall or vice versa?

[MU82]

The big apple?  Madison Square Garden?  Are you kidding?

I didn't pretend to know. I was just throwing it out there. Minnesota has been to the Final Four more recently than St. John's, has had more recent overall basketball success and, mostly, has the backing of the Big 14. But I get what you're saying about St. John's, too.

I'd probably lean toward the Big 14 team in this conversation, but I'm far from certain.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Minnesota has been to the Final Four more recently

Which was vacated because of rampant cheating.

[Coleman]

This sort of surprises me.  How many programs, short of maybe a few blue bloods, would let a coach go directly after an NCAA tournament birth, especially when they weren't at that level before he came to the program?

Lavin didn't make St. John's elite, but he made them respectable and relevant (and they were neither before him), all while battling cancer. Unless this is something he also wanted, I don't really understand it.

Norm Roberts (Big East Conference) (2004–2010)
2004-05   Norm Roberts   9–18   3-13   12th   
2005-06   Norm Roberts   12–15   5-11   15th   
2006-07   Norm Roberts   16–15   7-9   11th   
2007-08   Norm Roberts   11–19   5-13   14th   
2008-09   Norm Roberts   16–18   6-12   13th   CBI First Round
2009-10   Norm Roberts   17–16   6-12   13th   NIT First Round
Norm Roberts:   81-101   32-70   


Steve Lavin (Big East Conference) (2010–present)
2010-11   Steve Lavin   21–12   12–6   T-3rd   NCAA Second Round
2011-12   Steve Lavin
Mike Dunlap   2–2
11–17   N/A
6–12   T-11th   
2012-13   Steve Lavin   17–16   8–10   10th   NIT Second Round
2013-14   Steve Lavin   20–13   10–8   T-3rd   NIT First Round
2014-15   Steve Lavin   21–12   10–8   5th   NCAA Second Round
Steve Lavin:   92-72   46-44   

[SaintPaulWarrior]

This article is from 2 days ago.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/lavin-set-meet-sju-prez-talk-contract-extension-article-1.2162526

St. John's coach Steve Lavin will meet with university president Conrado (Bobby) Gempesaw in the coming days to discuss their visions of the basketball program's future. It's an annual end-of-season meeting that will likely include a conversation about giving Lavin a contract extension, the Daily News has learned.

Lavin has been a part of ongoing conversations with other school administrators regarding a possible contract extension and they continued on campus Wednesday. The contract talks have been part of evaluations that are conducted at the end of every season. But two sources told The News there is no agreement, as some published reports suggested.

[hdog1017]

What about Phil Jackson?  He's got solid NYC ties. 

[MU82]

Which was vacated because of rampant cheating.

Oh, you and your rules and regulations!

My favorite Clem Haskins memory was the time the school held a party to watch Selection Sunday -- complete with coaches, players, cheerleaders, media, big-money alums, etc -- and then the Gophers weren't selected. Clem spent a half-hour bitching to the media about the committee. It was hilarious stuff.

[Dawson Rental]

This sort of surprises me.  How many programs, short of maybe a few blue bloods, would let a coach go directly after an NCAA tournament birth, especially when they weren't at that level before he came to the program?

Lavin didn't make St. John's elite, but he made them respectable and relevant (and they were neither before him), all while battling cancer. Unless this is something he also wanted, I don't really understand it.

Norm Roberts (Big East Conference) (2004–2010)
2004-05   Norm Roberts   9–18   3-13   12th   
2005-06   Norm Roberts   12–15   5-11   15th   
2006-07   Norm Roberts   16–15   7-9   11th   
2007-08   Norm Roberts   11–19   5-13   14th   
2008-09   Norm Roberts   16–18   6-12   13th   CBI First Round
2009-10   Norm Roberts   17–16   6-12   13th   NIT First Round
Norm Roberts:   81-101   32-70   


Steve Lavin (Big East Conference) (2010–present)
2010-11   Steve Lavin   21–12   12–6   T-3rd   NCAA Second Round
2011-12   Steve Lavin
Mike Dunlap   2–2
11–17   N/A
6–12   T-11th   
2012-13   Steve Lavin   17–16   8–10   10th   NIT Second Round
2013-14   Steve Lavin   20–13   10–8   T-3rd   NIT First Round
2014-15   Steve Lavin   21–12   10–8   5th   NCAA Second Round
Steve Lavin:   92-72   46-44   

IMO, he lost too many recruiting battles without adequate backup plans.  Always went after the big fish, though.

[Dawson Rental]

This article is from 2 days ago.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/lavin-set-meet-sju-prez-talk-contract-extension-article-1.2162526

St. John's coach Steve Lavin will meet with university president Conrado (Bobby) Gempesaw in the coming days to discuss their visions of the basketball program's future. It's an annual end-of-season meeting that will likely include a conversation about giving Lavin a contract extension, the Daily News has learned.

Lavin has been a part of ongoing conversations with other school administrators regarding a possible contract extension and they continued on campus Wednesday. The contract talks have been part of evaluations that are conducted at the end of every season. But two sources told The News there is no agreement, as some published reports suggested.

Sounds like $$$ entered into it.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

This surprises me.