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Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 21, 2015, 08:41:47 PM
Big East 7-2 vs the ACC this year.   Including Butler downing North Carolina.  Journalists are lazy, unfortunately many people believe them.

I said the same on Twitter. As always, March is all that matters.

chapman

Guess we should be thankful Georgetown didn't lose to a double digit seed yet again.

GGGG

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 21, 2015, 08:41:47 PM
Big East 7-2 vs the ACC this year.   Including Butler downing North Carolina.  Journalists are lazy, unfortunately many people believe them.


Championships aren't won before the new year begins.  Poor showing by the BE for the second year in a row.

jsglow

Quote from: ecompt on March 21, 2015, 08:54:15 PM
That Final Four run was eons ago. Five straight times they have been knocked out in the first weekend. He is a good recruiter, period.

Brutal. Simply brutal.  And agreed that they had the NCSt bigs in foul trouble but the continued to chuck.

Now we're watching JTIII get schooled by Larry Kriskowiak.  (Actually, I think Larry is a darn good coach.)

LAZER

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2015, 09:05:29 PM

Championships aren't won before the new year begins.  Poor showing by the BE for the second year in a row.

I agree, but Rothstein using one game to compare entire leagues is stupid and he should know better.

Dr. Blackheart

Nova played "that team" that they didn't match up well against.  Tall and physical inside as they were out rebounded 45-32, while that hit the game where their guards couldn't hit a three (only Hillard and Booth).

Really bad day for the conference.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2015, 09:05:29 PM

Championships aren't won before the new year begins.  Poor showing by the BE for the second year in a row.

Correct, nor does one game define an entire season or conference.  Everyone knew the Big East top to bottom was a really good league, the second best league in the country.  Many of us also said we wouldn't be surprised if we didn't do great in the NCAA tournament, because that is only taking the best teams from the conference.  Where we had very good balance up and down the league, we had no powerhouse team and that includes Nova.

So none of this is surprising, but it's also wrong to say how partial conference does in the tournament determines how good the conference is.  Back to the old stand by, was the Horizon League the second best conference in the country back to back years because Butler made it to the finals? 

brewcity77

Quote from: chapman on March 21, 2015, 09:03:17 PM
Guess we should be thankful Georgetown didn't lose to a double digit seed yet again.

No, but that's still 8 straight years they lost to a lower seed in either the NCAA or Big East Tournament.

Shark

At least when Marquette was good we had the decency to get to the sweet 16 and lose to good teams. These big guys in our conference are pitiful.

My conclusion: MU needs to get better so that we don't need to watch these chokers as much.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2015, 09:02:49 PM
I said the same on Twitter. As always, March is all that matters.

To some.  I applaud Nova for a great season.  They didn't shoot well today, one off day is all that matters.

It's a crapshoot.

GGGG

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 21, 2015, 09:15:18 PM
Correct, nor does one game define an entire season or conference.  Everyone knew the Big East top to bottom was a really good league, the second best league in the country.  Many of us also said we wouldn't be surprised if we didn't do great in the NCAA tournament, because that is only taking the best teams from the conference.  Where we had very good balance up and down the league, we had no powerhouse team and that includes Nova.


They were a #1 seed.  Stop making excuses for them.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: ecompt on March 21, 2015, 08:54:15 PM
That Final Four run was eons ago. Five straight times they have been knocked out in the first weekend. He is a good recruiter, period.

If he was only a good recruiter, he wouldn't be going 33-2 with his team this year. 

Final Four was 2009....maybe in today's day and age that is eons ago. 

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2015, 09:15:45 PM
No, but that's still 8 straight years they lost to a lower seed in either the NCAA or Big East Tournament.

I had them losing to EWU, surprised they got past them.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2015, 09:17:32 PM

They were a #1 seed.  Stop making excuses for them.


I'm not.  They lost today.  I said in the first #1 seed to lose that I thought it would be Nova and I also said NC State was scary to me, that was before NC State beat LSU.  I did think they would get by NC State and lose the next round.  No excuses, they didn't shoot well today and lost. 

It's a crapshoot, that's life...it happens every round in this tournament where teams that are supposed to win, don't. 

4everwarriors

Nova simply wasn't the kinda team that was a threat to go deep. Seeds be damned.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Eldon

Well, to be fair, Nova was outed by the tourney champions last year aka UConn aka the greatest team in the entire country last year, as evidenced by their winning the tournament.

3.......2......1......

4everwarriors

Mississippi St. job is open. Maybe T-Cubed can get his posse to float out his name. Kinda like he did with Illinois, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

brewcity77

For better or worse, conferences are judged in March. Losing at least 4/6 teams the first weekend including our two highest seeds is a bad look.

GGGG

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2015, 09:25:34 PM
For better or worse, conferences are judged in March. Losing at least 4/6 teams the first weekend including our two highest seeds is a bad look.


Exactly.  For the second year in a row too.

LAZER

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2015, 09:25:34 PM
For better or worse, conferences are judged in March. Losing at least 4/6 teams the first weekend including our two highest seeds is a bad look.
Fortunately people forget quickly, ACC has been poor the last two tournaments and no one seems to remember.

4everwarriors

The Butlers in a world of hurt, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

VegasWarrior77

Mitch Moss ‏@MitchMossRadio  19m19 minutes ago
HUGE upset by the -4.5 favorites RT @HuffingtonPost: UPSET ALERT: #5 Utah leads #4 Georgetown, 72-62, w/under 30 seconds left! #MarchMasness

Mitch is a sports talk host in LV.  Those in the know in Vegas just shake their heads when a publication like the Huffington Post puts out an "upset alert" when its actually the favored team (Utah -4.5 over Gtown) that wins.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 21, 2015, 09:34:58 PM
Mitch Moss ‏@MitchMossRadio  19m19 minutes ago
HUGE upset by the -4.5 favorites RT @HuffingtonPost: UPSET ALERT: #5 Utah leads #4 Georgetown, 72-62, w/under 30 seconds left! #MarchMasness

Mitch is a sports talk host in LV.  Those in the know in Vegas just shake their heads when a publication like the Huffington Post puts out an "upset alert" when its actually the favored team (Utah -4.5 over Gtown) that wins.

That is really embarrassing.  Forget the point spread, which for a guy in the sports world in Vegas should know, but to ever call a 5 over a 4 seed a Huge upset is also mind blowing.  Sounds like you have quite a winner out there.

Shark

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 21, 2015, 09:38:59 PM
That is really embarrassing.  Forget the point spread, which for a guy in the sports world in Vegas should know, but to ever call a 5 over a 4 seed a Huge upset is also mind blowing.  Sounds like you have quite a winner out there.

He was being sarcastic, Chicos.

brewcity77

Quote from: LAZER on March 21, 2015, 09:31:11 PM
Fortunately people forget quickly, ACC has been poor the last two tournaments and no one seems to remember.

The difference is the ACC has a history of success. Everyone views us as the not Big East. We're the conference with a big name and small game. When our teams dominated in non-con, there was a ton of "get back to me in March" commentary. Well, it's March, and we didn't answer the bell. And no matter how well we do next year, this weekend will be all anyone remembers.

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