MU Recruits in HS tournaments

[MU82]

I don't know from all those stats, pro or con.

All I know is that I would rather my players be good FT shooters rather than poor FT shooters. Duh. And I especially know that I want the guys who are handling the ball late in close games to be very good FT shooters.

No maths there. Just common sense.

Now ... how 'bout those MU recruits?

[JakeBarnes]

Henry went 31 pts 19 rebounds despite having 4 fouls last night.

Heldt went 16-8 in the loss to Stevens Point

[Jay Bee]

In terms of overall stats, I understand why FTs (least valuable shot, difference between 64% and 72% seems minimal over a season) don't seem like a big deal. I understand why statistically they won't have as much impact.

But I do feel the extra 1.5 ppg is worth having a good FT shooting team over a poor one and I feel that in the last 5 minutes of a game, missing FTs and especially the front ends of 1-and-1s are often the difference between winning and losing a game.

You don't care about FTs. Fine. I like seeing that Anim makes his. It is what it is.

No, no. Again. Back to what you said: "We have to be better than 65% if we want to get back to winning ways." This is false. You can admit it and move on, or keep talking about other stuff.

Also, "missing FTs and especially the front ends of 1-and-1s are often the difference between winning and losing a game." --> No! This is false. Use some logic.

Now, the great thing about team FT% is that there are a number of free throw shooters on a team. Thus, obviously you'd want to, and are able to game plan accordingly, have guys who shoot better or have more poise and focus have the ball in their hand when the other team is trying to intentionally foul you.

"Missing free throws lost us the game" is picking out one negative out of many and pointing to it. It's simple minded thinking and wrong.

Free throws (9/19 for 47.4%) get the attention from many, but they weren't the primary issue in Minnesota's loss at Nebraska.

[Badgerhater]

Free throw percentage is the cherry on the sundae.  It stands out, it makes the sundae better, but it not being there doesn't stop it from being a sundae while a cherry in an empty bowl is not a sundae.

It is preferable for a sundae to have a cherry on top.

Now consider the sundae itself to be a good basketball team and the empty bowl to be a bad basketball team.  The cherry makes the first better and doesn't mean a damn thing for the latter.

[Lennys Tap]

You don't care about FTs. Fine. I like seeing that Anim makes his. It is what it is.

Brew, saying "you don't care about free throws, fine" is an unfair and untrue characterization. We all wish our guys would never miss a free throw. But for us to be successful it's much, much, much more important to get guys with better at effective FG%, rebounding rates, turnover rates, etc. (IOW, better basketball players) than it is to get guys who are better free throw shooters. Better players take you from last place to the dance. A better ft% might give us a win or two.

[BM1090]

J.B, you heading to Anim's state final today?

[Loose Cannon]

Are the Hauser Bros as tough as the Van Buren Boys?

   Asks Kramer!

[Lennys Tap]

I don't know from all those stats, pro or con.

All I know is that I would rather my players be good FT shooters rather than poor FT shooters. Duh. And I especially know that I want the guys who are handling the ball late in close games to be very good FT shooters.

No maths there. Just common sense.

Now ... how 'bout those MU recruits?

Sure. And you'd rather have a team of great ball handlers who rarely turned it over. And a team that dominates the backboards. And a team with an off the charts effective FG%. IOW, first choice is great basketball players who shoot free throws well. Second choice, great basketball players who don't. Third choice moves you to mediocrity or worse depending on how good the players are and has little to do with their FT%. I have a friend who walked on at Marquette as a freshman. He's 68 years old and can still make 90/100 free throws. When he walked on it was more like 96/100. But he was still a walk on.

[JakeBarnes]

Dear Lenny, brew, et al:

No one cares about free throws for the purpose of this thread. Hijack a different one and let's get back to talking about recruits of Marquette that are currently in the state playoffs.

Signed,

Jake Barnes, Esq. (WYLD STALLIONS)

[brewcity77]

Dear Lenny, brew, et al:

No one cares about free throws for the purpose of this thread. Hijack a different one and let's get back to talking about recruits of Marquette that are currently in the state playoffs.

Signed,

Jake Barnes, Esq. (WYLD STALLIONS)

Sorry, was just trying to point out a positive to Anim's game

[Spotcheck Billy]

Henry went 31 pts 19 rebounds despite having 4 fouls last night.

Heldt went 16-8 in the loss to Stevens Point

but how did he do on his free throws?

[Earl Tatum]

NOT RECRUITED BY MU BUT---TREV ANDERSON OF POINT HAD 28 AGAIN LAST NIGHT AGAINST NEENAH. 20 IN THE SECOND HALF AND THE GAME WINNER.  GOOD PLAYER WHO IS ONLY BEING RECRUITED BY MID AND LOW MAJORS. I'M SURE
WHEN AAU STARTS UP HE WILL BE NOTICED BY OTHERS. GOOD POIN T GUARD. 3-STAR IN MY BOOK.

[Jay Bee]

J.B, you heading to Anim's state final today?

They have an off day today - play tomorrow ~5pm. 8pm game between Apple Valley & Champlin Park will be of interest as well, but I'll probably watch / record on TV -- so many good college games going on at the same time.

[wadesworld]

NOT RECRUITED BY MU BUT---TREV ANDERSON OF POINT HAD 28 AGAIN LAST NIGHT AGAINST NEENAH. 20 IN THE SECOND HALF AND THE GAME WINNER.  GOOD PLAYER WHO IS ONLY BEING RECRUITED BY MID AND LOW MAJORS. I'M SURE
WHEN AAU STARTS UP HE WILL BE NOTICED BY OTHERS. GOOD POIN T GUARD. 3-STAR IN MY BOOK.

Name is too similar to Evan Anderson, who was a Badger and who sucked.  So no thanks.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Name is too similar to Evan Anderson, who was a Badger and who sucked.  So no thanks.

That's just Recruiting 101

[real chili 83]

Sacar tipping at noon today in a semifinal tilt.

Henry at 7pm in sectionals.

You there?

[We R Final Four]

Rice Lake v. Merrill Sat at 100 pm @ Marshfield.

[bilsu]

Free throw shooting only matters in a competitive game and then it matters a lot.

[Earl Tatum]

Will see Henry play Merrill on Saturday. Live in Marshfield.

[Celtic Truth]

NOT RECRUITED BY MU BUT---TREV ANDERSON OF POINT HAD 28 AGAIN LAST NIGHT AGAINST NEENAH. 20 IN THE SECOND HALF AND THE GAME WINNER.  GOOD PLAYER WHO IS ONLY BEING RECRUITED BY MID AND LOW MAJORS. I'M SURE
WHEN AAU STARTS UP HE WILL BE NOTICED BY OTHERS. GOOD POIN T GUARD. 3-STAR IN MY BOOK.

24/7 composite has him as a 4 star recruit and the 25th best PG in the class of 2016. Already drawing interest from Iowa St, IU, UW, Creighton, and Virginia. If we want to get him Wojo should start now if he hasn't already. Anyone have any insight on his game/skillset/ability?

[ecompt]

Free throw shooting only matters in a competitive game and then it matters a lot.

except when you're playing Bucky because you don't shoot any FTs until the final minute. Michigan had zero FT attempts and UW had committed a total of FOUR fouls in the first 38 minutes today.

[brewcity77]

except when you're playing Bucky because you don't shoot any FTs until the final minute. Michigan had zero FT attempts and UW had committed a total of FOUR fouls in the first 38 minutes today.

Gotta preserve their hopes for a 1-seed somehow. Will laugh when they are in the Midwest with Kentucky. Will laugh harder when they get knocked off before they play Kentucky.

[bilsu]

24/7 composite has him as a 4 star recruit and the 25th best PG in the class of 2016. Already drawing interest from Iowa St, IU, UW, Creighton, and Virginia. If we want to get him Wojo should start now if he hasn't already. Anyone have any insight on his game/skillset/ability?

Wojo sold Carter on the idea that he was the only true point guard on the roster. It might be counter productive to try and recruit another point before Carter signs.

[TedBaxter]

Will see Henry play Merrill on Saturday. Live in Marshfield.

Hope you see a decent performance, but with the history of low scoring WVC teams, I'll bet the score doesn't add up to move than 100 points.  Rice Lake won earlier in the year 51-41 with Henry scoring 16.  I just hope Rice Lake can survive and get to Madison.

[drewm88]

Rice Lake wins 44-32 with Wojo in attendance. Headed to state.