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PuertoRicanNightmare

I will say this, oftentimes parents have a much more difficult time letting go when their children have the potential for great things. It's my experience that they crave a certain amount of credit be given to them rather than have their child's success speak for itself. Not saying that's the case, but it could very well be.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on January 28, 2015, 01:27:09 PM
NN has made his tweets in the public domain.   They are out there.   Choosing how to react or not react is on us.   I choose to let the kid be. 

I respect that.

I also respect those who choose to use an Internet chat board to, well, chat about the public news of the day.

I would have less respect (actually, no respect) for those who would be vulgar, angry in tone, abusive in language, disrespectful, etc. Most here on Scoop have not done that.

To me, talking about and having an opinion about a public subject involving a public figure does not "cross a line." Others obviously feel differently.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

keefe

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 28, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
I will say this, oftentimes parents have a much more difficult time letting go when their children have the potential for great things. It's my experience that they crave a certain amount of credit be given to them rather than have their child's success speak for itself.

Dude, let your kids out of the basement!


Death on call

MUCam

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 27, 2015, 08:03:19 PM
The frontal lobe of the male brain that connects the emotional and rational forms at 28.

How old is Ners again?


MerrittsMustache

Quote from: MU82 on January 28, 2015, 02:42:59 PM
I respect that.

I also respect those who choose to use an Internet chat board to, well, chat about the public news of the day.

I would have less respect (actually, no respect) for those who would be vulgar, angry in tone, abusive in language, disrespectful, etc. Most here on Scoop have not done that.

To me, talking about and having an opinion about a public subject involving a public figure does not "cross a line." Others obviously feel differently.

I believe that the issue some people have is that a 17-year-old HS student is considered "a public figure" simply because he happens to be very good at basketball.


MU82

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 28, 2015, 03:11:03 PM
I believe that the issue some people have is that a 17-year-old HS student is considered "a public figure" simply because he happens to be very good at basketball.



I understand, Merritt's.

Again, I ask what if he were a 16-year-old pro tennis player, a 14-year-old singer or a 12-year-old actor? Would the fact that he were paid or that he were more famous somehow make him "more public"?

Are 16-year-old Elle Fanning's tweets "more public" than 18-year-old Nick's tweets -- even though Nick is old enough to vote and go to war?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

dgies9156

Quote from: keefe on January 28, 2015, 02:55:56 PM
Dude, let your kids out of the basement!

My son would be perfectly happy spending the rest of his life in the basement. So long as the television works and he has unlimited access to the latest in video games.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 28, 2015, 03:11:03 PM
I believe that the issue some people have is that a 17-year-old HS student is considered "a public figure" simply because he happens to be very good at basketball.



I think it's fair to call him a public figure amongst the Marquette community.  Now if ESPN or Foxsports were to write up something about it then I'd say it's prying too hard into a kids life.  He's good at basketball, another child's good at acting, another at singing it doesn't mean it is suddenly that different. They're talents that the public pays to see. What defines them as a public figure is how much of society would be concerned with them.
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MerrittsMustache

Quote from: MU82 on January 28, 2015, 03:21:30 PM
I understand, Merritt's.

Again, I ask what if he were a 16-year-old pro tennis player, a 14-year-old singer or a 12-year-old actor? Would the fact that he were paid or that he were more famous somehow make him "more public"?

Are 16-year-old Elle Fanning's tweets "more public" than 18-year-old Nick's tweets -- even though Nick is old enough to vote and go to war?

If your 18-year-old child/nephew/cousin/whomever was going through an incredibly difficult time in his life and presumably tweeted something out of frustration, would you want his life to then be dissected by a bunch of anonymous old men on a message board? I assume that you'd have no problem with it since he can go to war, right?


willie warrior

Quote from: dgies9156 on January 28, 2015, 03:25:22 PM
My son would be perfectly happy spending the rest of his life in the basement. So long as the television works and he has unlimited access to the latest in video games.
And likely a refrigerator that is well stocked? Many of us have been there--especially keeping the chow coming!
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Tums Festival

Perhaps there are people who are interested because they wish the best for NN and are hopeful that everything ends up working out OK. It seems like some think the worst and any interest must be based on wanting to gossip rather than concern for the young man's well being.
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Skatastrophy

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 28, 2015, 03:51:55 PM
If your 18-year-old child/nephew/cousin/whomever was going through an incredibly difficult time in his life and presumably tweeted something out of frustration, would you want his life to then be dissected by a bunch of anonymous old men on a message board? I assume that you'd have no problem with it since he can go to war, right?



If he puts his business on blast on Twitter, it's his own fault. Hopefully it's a learning experience.

Spaniel with a Short Tail

Quote from: Ellenson for an mu-rara on January 28, 2015, 12:45:21 PM
I agree with the logic of your argument, but,  the ability to comment on his tweets should be balanced with the wisdom of commenting on his tweets. 

This sounds appropriate. I also agree with another poster that NN's tweets are appropriate for discussion on this board. If you are uncomfortable with that, do not participate.

Finally, I hope for the best for the whole Noskowiak family. Can't fathom how difficult this must be for all involved.

77ncaachamps

I hope Nick is finding support and this MU guy wishes everything gets better and is pulling for him.

But I won't entertain any speculation...

Just letting it be.
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wadesworld

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 28, 2015, 06:37:42 PM
I hope Nick is finding support and this MU guy wishes everything gets better and is pulling for him.

But I won't entertain any speculation...

Just letting it be.

Well put.  That's how I feel.

RyPow11

Long time reader, single-digit poster

Before Nick deleted his twitter, there were multiply replies (from what looked like Sun Prairie students) to his harsh tweet that referenced Nick smoking a lot of weed. Both tweets that referenced the drug use have been deleted. Hate to stir the pot, but thought I should inform my fellow scoopers.

wadesworld

Quote from: mufan1030 on January 28, 2015, 07:15:22 PM
Long time reader, single-digit poster

Before Nick deleted his twitter, there were multiply replies (from what looked like Sun Prairie students) to his harsh tweet that referenced Nick smoking a lot of weed. Both tweets that referenced the drug use have been deleted. Hate to stir the pot, but thought I should inform my fellow scoopers.

Great, thanks for informing us, really necessary information to share with everyone so that we all know what was deleted in case anybody missed it.

Please go back to not posting.

PistolPete

Quote from: mufan1030 on January 28, 2015, 07:15:22 PM
Long time reader, single-digit poster

Before Nick deleted his twitter, there were multiply replies (from what looked like Sun Prairie students) to his harsh tweet that referenced Nick smoking a lot of weed. Both tweets that referenced the drug use have been deleted. Hate to stir the pot, but thought I should inform my fellow scoopers.

I'm slightly more concerned about his mental health and domestic situation than I am about the speculative, supposed recreational drug use.

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