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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: DienerTime34 on January 27, 2015, 06:48:10 PM
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Call his dad a fat a** and says he hasn't talked to him in a month, and that he's telling lies to a newspaper.
Holy smokes.. wonder what the real story is here.
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Whatever it is, it is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!
Nick is a teenage boy displaying the typical behavior of a teenage boy that is going through a lot of personal crap. The difference is that most teenage boys don't have adult strangers following their twitter feeds.
And you are making it worse by sharing it with thousands of other strangers. Knock it off!
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+1.
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Whatever it is, it is NONE OF YOUR F#CKING BUSINESS!
Nick is a teenage boy displaying the typical behavior of a teenage boy that is going through a lot of personal crap. The difference is that most teenage boys don't have adult strangers following their twitter feeds.
And you are making it worse by sharing it with thousands of other strangers. Knock it off!
So true. If we as a Marquette community truly are what we claim to be then we should be willing to be respectful to another member and understanding. Not a bunch of chatty Cathys
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Whatever it is, it is NONE OF YOUR F#CKING BUSINESS!
Nick is a teenage boy displaying the typical behavior of a teenage boy that is going through a lot of personal crap. The difference is that most teenage boys don't have adult strangers following their twitter feeds.
And you are making it worse by sharing it with thousands of other strangers. Knock it off!
It's a Twitter post so it doesn't really qualify as private. And you can read tweets without following someone.
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It's a Twitter post so it doesn't really qualify as private. And you can read tweets without following someone.
It doesn't change the fact that this is 100% normal for a teenager. What's not normal is the 40 year old posting the twitter post on an online forum to other 40 year olds who are now all judging the teenager like hes a 32 year old professional athlete. You wouldn't be posting this if it was your neighbors kid, no difference here.
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"I wasn't ever depressed or never saught treatment for depression... I had to get out of an abusive household and father"
Shots fired!
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Uhhh, you guys know Twitter is public, right? Is it OK now that he's breaking news, and letting everyone know he is not suffering from depression? Do I have your permission to talk about it?
I eagerly await you coming down on the Journal Sentinel beat writer with the fire of a 1000 suns when he publishes this story.... because it wouldn't be fair to publish a story about a high school kid, right?
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NM
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"I wasn't ever depressed or never saught treatment for depression... I had to get out of an abusive household and father"
Shots fired!
That was posted tonight? Why wait 2 weeks? Strange story.
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This kids situation just gets stranger by the day. Seems like a lot of baggage and i hope Wojo tells him to button it up a little bit.
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It doesn't change the fact that this is 100% normal for a teenager. What's not normal is the 40 year old posting the twitter post on an online forum to other 40 year olds who are now all judging the teenager like hes a 32 year old professional athlete. You wouldn't be posting this if it was your neighbors kid, no difference here.
I'm not judging the Twitter post itself, the person who posted it or the person who mentioned it here. That would be you doing the judging. All I'm saying is something posted in a public forum like Twitter is just that, public.
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Matt Velazquez retweeted Nick's tweet. Someone should let him know its none of his business.
Whatever is going on, it sounds like Nick is in a bad situation. Hope everything works out for him.
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Matt Velazquez retweeted Nick's tweet. Someone should let him know its none of his business.
Whatever is going on, it sounds like Nick is in a bad situation. Hope everything works out for him.
+1
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Call his dad a fat a** and says he hasn't talked to him in a month, and that he's telling lies to a newspaper.
Holy smokes.. wonder what the real story is here.
That's what my kids say about me - is that unusual?
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That's what my kids say about me - is that unusual?
All 18 of them in unison or just a couple of 'em?
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Matt Velazquez retweeted Nick's tweet. Someone should let him know its none of his business.
Whatever is going on, it sounds like Nick is in a bad situation. Hope everything works out for him.
Actually, I don't agree with Matt's decision to do that, and I say that as a huge fan of his.
If that tweet had prompted him to investigate the facts and write an actual news article, that would be a different matter.
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Whatever it is, it is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!
Nick is a teenage boy displaying the typical behavior of a teenage boy that is going through a lot of personal crap. The difference is that most teenage boys don't have adult strangers following their twitter feeds.
And you are making it worse by sharing it with thousands of other strangers. Knock it off!
Don't be naive. If he's putting it out there on Twitter for the world to see, he is forfeiting the right of privacy. It is now, without a doubt, everyone's business. This is the 21st century.
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I have 4 teenagers, none of whom have said anything like that on Twitter. We can't all be supremely well adjusted, mature to stay off social media. Some people on here have lost their damn mind...when he posts it on Twitter it's no longer private. And as long as he did it intentionally get off your high horses. This is an odd situation to say the least!
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The frontal lobe of the male brain that connects the emotional and rational forms at 28.
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I will say this Dwight Buycks used to have a private twitter feed it seems like it's bigger part of self promoting to keep everything public but I know if I were going through anything as simple as a breakup where I might be stupid I'd go ahead and post those on a private account.
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The frontal lobe of the male brain that connects the emotional and rational forms at 28.
I recall reading a number of years ago that the portion of the brain in charge of "wisdom" matures last. Is what you are saying consistent with that. I take it "yes", but wanted to ask very clearly. :)
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Face it Scoopers, you don't really care what was said in a tweet. All we want is for him to be a good point guard at MU.
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Face it Scoopers, you don't really care what was said in a tweet. All we want is for him to be a good point guard at MU.
Speak for yourself guy.
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Not interested in his personal life and trying to be involved in figuring out what he is going through.
Hopefully he can get to MU and knock down a lot of trey's for us next year
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What the hell is going on out here??
Lets get weird.
(http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/UltimateFF/Animated-Football/Packers/1xnxt_zps120dc0a9.gif)
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Not interested in his personal life and trying to be involved in figuring out what he is going through.
Hopefully he can get to MU and knock down a lot of trey's for us next year
There's a (huge) difference between "trying to get involved in figuring out what he is going through" and hoping that the kid is able to overcome an obstacle in his life that is bigger than Marquette basketball.
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That was quick
http://m.jsonline.com/sports/blogs/290014981.html
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"I wasn't ever depressed or never saught treatment for depression... I had to get out of an abusive household and father"
Shots fired!
The replies to that tweet have not been pretty
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Let's all do our part to give the Noskowiak family some space. Peace and God Bless.
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I have zero problem with anybody posting this here or with the JS writing about it. Nick is a public figure, and he made this a very public issue.
I hope he gets his situation settled, whether or not he ever steps foot on Marquette's campus. Sounds pretty messed up, and nobody -- regardless of age -- should have to go through it.
But the person going through it doesn't need to tell hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands or however many Twitter followers about his personal business, either. Not if he intends to keep it personal, anyway.
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"We continue to support Nick and his family during a very difficult time," Wojciechowski told the Journal Sentinel. "We will not have any further comment of this very private matter at this time."
From what I gather, Wojo is literally the only person handling this appropriately.
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I think Nick just needs to cut himself a nice, juicy slice. It is clear this young man has not gotten what he needs in some time. Usually some Norske Nook takes the edge off and he'll be back to Tweeting sweet nothings again.
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He now says he's not depressed. Two weeks ago he retweeted articles describing Wojo's support his healing process, support from friends and thoughts/prayers from fans. Strange turn of events. Maybe this was a story created by his family to cover up the abuse.
I'm not a twitter guy, but understand why people like it. I also know that you can make your profile private, so don't make excuses for the young man....he made this a public situation.
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Actually, I don't agree with Matt's decision to do that, and I say that as a huge fan of his.
If that tweet had prompted him to investigate the facts and write an actual news article, that would be a different matter.
WTF?!?!
So you have a problem with a journalist simply retweeting a singular tweet involving personal issue that the person decided to take public, but you don't have a problem with the journalist using the tweet as an excuse to dig up some dirt?
There's nothing wrong with reading the tweet, there's nothing wrong with someone retweeting, and there's nothing wrong with hoping the situation turns out ok. Granted, wondering what's "really going on" can be gray area depending on intent, but quietly hoping for a journalist to start nosing around is clearly over the line.
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WTF?!?!
So you have a problem with a journalist simply retweeting a singular tweet involving personal issue that the person decided to take public, but you don't have a problem with the journalist using the tweet as an excuse to dig up some dirt?
There's nothing wrong with reading the tweet, there's nothing wrong with someone retweeting, and there's nothing wrong with hoping the situation turns out ok. Granted, wondering what's "really going on" can be gray area depending on intent, but quietly hoping for a journalist to start nosing around is clearly over the line.
was thinking the same thing myself. Bizarre statement from warriorchick there
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was thinking the same thing myself. Bizarre statement from warriorchick there
The Change...
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Thoughts and prayers Nick.
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Possibly could we get back to basketball?
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WTF?!?!
So you have a problem with a journalist simply retweeting a singular tweet involving personal issue that the person decided to take public, but you don't have a problem with the journalist using the tweet as an excuse to dig up some dirt?
There's nothing wrong with reading the tweet, there's nothing wrong with someone retweeting, and there's nothing wrong with hoping the situation turns out ok. Granted, wondering what's "really going on" can be gray area depending on intent, but quietly hoping for a journalist to start nosing around is clearly over the line.
Im with Benny on this. He is a MArquette recruit and he made a public statement. If this was a gossip article by Matt saying he heard this, than I would say that's out of line. Clearly Nick wanted people to know thats why he posted it on twitter.
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I think Nick just needs to cut himself a nice, juicy slice. It is clear this young man has not gotten what he needs in some time. Usually some Norske Nook takes the edge off and he'll be back to Tweeting sweet nothings again.
Norske Nook? Not familiar with what that is. Same as Norwegian Nookie?
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Clearly Nick wanted people to know thats why he posted it on twitter.
Exactly. Velazquez actually was providing a service for NN.
Every time a public figure tweets, it's as if he or she has called a mini-press conference. "I have something to say. Everybody gather around and listen."
A tweet simply is an individual saying: "Listen to me!"
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Norske Nook? Not familiar with what that is. Same as Norwegian Nookie?
The Norse Nook is where one goes for the best afternoon (and evening) homemade pie known to man.
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A high school kid having problems that are more serious than most. What those problems are, I have no idea. No one knows what is going on based upon tweets or the cause of the tweets nor the family background or who to believe, etc.
There are a host of speculative reasons that could be given for the tweets he's made. But no reason to do so.
Let's move on and leave it alone. If you consider him a public figure as a high school ball player, so be it, but expect people to justifyabley say "really!?" especially if you are an adult.
I wish him the best and hope he gets his situation taken care of and listens to those who love and care about him.
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A high school kid having problems that are more serious than most. What those problems are, I have no idea.
Dis no make sense. Dis make contradiction.
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A high school kid having problems that are more serious than most. What those problems are, I have no idea. No one knows what is going on based upon tweets or the cause of the tweets nor the family background or who to believe, etc.
There are a host of speculative reasons that could be given for the tweets he's made. But no reason to do so.
Let's move on and leave it alone. If you consider him a public figure as a high school ball player, so be it, but expect people to justifyabley say "really!?" especially if you are an adult.
If Nick tweets: "I have changed my mind. I'm not going to Marquette," are we allowed to re-tweet that and opine on it?
If he tweets: "I am having misgivings about Marquette. Not sure Wojo is the right coach for me given my current mindset," are we allowed to re-tweet that, opine on it and speculate about his mindset?
How about if Nick were a pro golfer or pro tennis player -- there have been many of those who are younger than he is. Would his tweets be more "fair game" then?
Etc, etc, etc.
Tweeting is HIS choice. If he wants to keep personal stuff personal, he should write it in his diary, talk to his priest, seek counsel from trusted adults, etc. Going on Twitter, where you have hundreds or thousands of followers, would seem to move any discussion from personal to very, very public. It's the Internet version of grabbing the microphone at the scorer's table of a sold-out Bradley Center and making an announcement.
It's silly to even have this argument. HE made this public. I didn't. You didn't. Velazquez didn't. Scoop didn't. Nick did!
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If Nick tweets: "I have changed my mind. I'm not going to Marquette," are we allowed to re-tweet that and opine on it?
If he tweets: "I am having misgivings about Marquette. Not sure Wojo is the right coach for me given my current mindset," are we allowed to re-tweet that, opine on it and speculate about his mindset?
How about if Nick were a pro golfer or pro tennis player -- there have been many of those who are younger than he is. Would his tweets be more "fair game" then?
Etc, etc, etc.
Tweeting is HIS choice. If he wants to keep personal stuff personal, he should write it in his diary, talk to his priest, seek counsel from trusted adults, etc. Going on Twitter, where you have hundreds or thousands of followers, would seem to move any discussion from personal to very, very public. It's the Internet version of grabbing the microphone at the scorer's table of a sold-out Bradley Center and making an announcement.
It's silly to even have this argument. HE made this public. I didn't. You didn't. Velazquez didn't. Scoop didn't. Nick did!
I agree with the logic of your argument, but, the ability to comment on his tweets should be balanced with the wisdom of commenting on his tweets.
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Dis no make sense. Dis make contradiction.
Not the run of the mill high-school problems obviously, so yes more serious than what I or my friends went through. We never moved out, etc.
What those more serious problems are, I don't know, and it's non of my business.
Maybe that makes more sense.
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I agree with the logic of your argument, but, the ability to comment on his tweets should be balanced with the wisdom of commenting on his tweets.
Very well said.
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NN has made his tweets in the public domain. They are out there. Choosing how to react or not react is on us. I choose to let the kid be.
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I will say this, oftentimes parents have a much more difficult time letting go when their children have the potential for great things. It's my experience that they crave a certain amount of credit be given to them rather than have their child's success speak for itself. Not saying that's the case, but it could very well be.
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NN has made his tweets in the public domain. They are out there. Choosing how to react or not react is on us. I choose to let the kid be.
I respect that.
I also respect those who choose to use an Internet chat board to, well, chat about the public news of the day.
I would have less respect (actually, no respect) for those who would be vulgar, angry in tone, abusive in language, disrespectful, etc. Most here on Scoop have not done that.
To me, talking about and having an opinion about a public subject involving a public figure does not "cross a line." Others obviously feel differently.
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I will say this, oftentimes parents have a much more difficult time letting go when their children have the potential for great things. It's my experience that they crave a certain amount of credit be given to them rather than have their child's success speak for itself.
Dude, let your kids out of the basement!
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The frontal lobe of the male brain that connects the emotional and rational forms at 28.
How old is Ners again?
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I respect that.
I also respect those who choose to use an Internet chat board to, well, chat about the public news of the day.
I would have less respect (actually, no respect) for those who would be vulgar, angry in tone, abusive in language, disrespectful, etc. Most here on Scoop have not done that.
To me, talking about and having an opinion about a public subject involving a public figure does not "cross a line." Others obviously feel differently.
I believe that the issue some people have is that a 17-year-old HS student is considered "a public figure" simply because he happens to be very good at basketball.
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I believe that the issue some people have is that a 17-year-old HS student is considered "a public figure" simply because he happens to be very good at basketball.
I understand, Merritt's.
Again, I ask what if he were a 16-year-old pro tennis player, a 14-year-old singer or a 12-year-old actor? Would the fact that he were paid or that he were more famous somehow make him "more public"?
Are 16-year-old Elle Fanning's tweets "more public" than 18-year-old Nick's tweets -- even though Nick is old enough to vote and go to war?
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Dude, let your kids out of the basement!
My son would be perfectly happy spending the rest of his life in the basement. So long as the television works and he has unlimited access to the latest in video games.
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I believe that the issue some people have is that a 17-year-old HS student is considered "a public figure" simply because he happens to be very good at basketball.
I think it's fair to call him a public figure amongst the Marquette community. Now if ESPN or Foxsports were to write up something about it then I'd say it's prying too hard into a kids life. He's good at basketball, another child's good at acting, another at singing it doesn't mean it is suddenly that different. They're talents that the public pays to see. What defines them as a public figure is how much of society would be concerned with them.
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I understand, Merritt's.
Again, I ask what if he were a 16-year-old pro tennis player, a 14-year-old singer or a 12-year-old actor? Would the fact that he were paid or that he were more famous somehow make him "more public"?
Are 16-year-old Elle Fanning's tweets "more public" than 18-year-old Nick's tweets -- even though Nick is old enough to vote and go to war?
If your 18-year-old child/nephew/cousin/whomever was going through an incredibly difficult time in his life and presumably tweeted something out of frustration, would you want his life to then be dissected by a bunch of anonymous old men on a message board? I assume that you'd have no problem with it since he can go to war, right?
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My son would be perfectly happy spending the rest of his life in the basement. So long as the television works and he has unlimited access to the latest in video games.
And likely a refrigerator that is well stocked? Many of us have been there--especially keeping the chow coming!
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Perhaps there are people who are interested because they wish the best for NN and are hopeful that everything ends up working out OK. It seems like some think the worst and any interest must be based on wanting to gossip rather than concern for the young man's well being.
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If your 18-year-old child/nephew/cousin/whomever was going through an incredibly difficult time in his life and presumably tweeted something out of frustration, would you want his life to then be dissected by a bunch of anonymous old men on a message board? I assume that you'd have no problem with it since he can go to war, right?
If he puts his business on blast on Twitter, it's his own fault. Hopefully it's a learning experience.
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I agree with the logic of your argument, but, the ability to comment on his tweets should be balanced with the wisdom of commenting on his tweets.
This sounds appropriate. I also agree with another poster that NN's tweets are appropriate for discussion on this board. If you are uncomfortable with that, do not participate.
Finally, I hope for the best for the whole Noskowiak family. Can't fathom how difficult this must be for all involved.
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I hope Nick is finding support and this MU guy wishes everything gets better and is pulling for him.
But I won't entertain any speculation...
Just letting it be.
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I hope Nick is finding support and this MU guy wishes everything gets better and is pulling for him.
But I won't entertain any speculation...
Just letting it be.
Well put. That's how I feel.
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Long time reader, single-digit poster
Before Nick deleted his twitter, there were multiply replies (from what looked like Sun Prairie students) to his harsh tweet that referenced Nick smoking a lot of weed. Both tweets that referenced the drug use have been deleted. Hate to stir the pot, but thought I should inform my fellow scoopers.
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Long time reader, single-digit poster
Before Nick deleted his twitter, there were multiply replies (from what looked like Sun Prairie students) to his harsh tweet that referenced Nick smoking a lot of weed. Both tweets that referenced the drug use have been deleted. Hate to stir the pot, but thought I should inform my fellow scoopers.
Great, thanks for informing us, really necessary information to share with everyone so that we all know what was deleted in case anybody missed it.
Please go back to not posting.
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Long time reader, single-digit poster
Before Nick deleted his twitter, there were multiply replies (from what looked like Sun Prairie students) to his harsh tweet that referenced Nick smoking a lot of weed. Both tweets that referenced the drug use have been deleted. Hate to stir the pot, but thought I should inform my fellow scoopers.
I'm slightly more concerned about his mental health and domestic situation than I am about the speculative, supposed recreational drug use.