Luke's shoulder

[94Warrior]

I am concerned about Luke's left shoulder.  He aggravated it without much cause.  He was going up for a shot and the defender chopped at the ball, but not with a huge amount of force.  On the bright side, he returned to the game, and didn't seem to be favoring it.

Does anyone know the extent of his injury?  How did he first injure it?  Is it an injury that will heal or will it require surgery at some point?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I am concerned about Luke's left shoulder.  He aggravated it without much cause.  He was going up for a shot and the defender chopped at the ball, but not with a huge amount of force.  On the bright side, he returned to the game, and didn't seem to be favoring it.

Does anyone know the extent of his injury?  How did he first injure it?  Is it an injury that will heal or will it require surgery at some point?

He opted to not have surgery but probably should have once he decided to transfer. Hopefully it'll stay strong and healthy.

[augoman]

I, too, noticed the shoulder pain.  The look on his face scared me more than seeing the shoulder brace every game.  I was surprised to see him come back after wincing the way he did.  Maybe surgery was in order.  shades of Anthony Pieper- I remember his shoulder getting so bad by the end of the season that he turned his body to catch a pass with his good arm and let his bad-shoulder-arm hang limp.  I obviously hope Luke's is mending rather than deteriorating!

[Windyplayer]

I, too, noticed the shoulder pain.  The look on his face scared me more than seeing the shoulder brace every game.  I was surprised to see him come back after wincing the way he did.  Maybe surgery was in order.  shades of Anthony Pieper- I remember his shoulder getting so bad by the end of the season that he turned his body to catch a pass with his good arm and let his bad-shoulder-arm hang limp.  I obviously hope Luke's is mending rather than deteriorating!

We are woefully under-informed to be surmising as to whether Luke should have gone under the knife or not. I know it's Scoop and all, but this is too much.

[Class71]

Looked like he had a shoulder separation, possibly some time ago,  that has not healed and was aggrevated by the hit in the game. You have to have had one to understand the type of pain in his face. It is like bone grinding on bone but it did not pop out so back in the game is not a surprise once the pain subsides.

I would expect surgery in the off season. Tendons simply do not tighten automatically. But hey, I'm not a doctor.

[Johnny B]

chronic shoulder pain oh well...

[MU82]

We are woefully under-informed to be surmising as to whether Luke should have gone under the knife or not. I know it's Scoop and all, but this is too much.

Looks to me like he needs knee surgery and a colonoscopy, too. And probably a new barber.

[Texas Western]

It was reported that Luke suffered a torn labrum in the fall of his year at Indiana. He elected not to have  surgery. The issue with the non surgical approach is there is an approximate 90 percent reoccurrence rate. All the physical therapy and training in the world doesn't matter.

If he has arthroscopic surgery it takes 22-24 weeks to get cleared to play contact sports. Then realistically your looking at up to 3 months of intense training to recover from the atrophied muscle and get back in shape.

If Luke can make it through the season, which is a big if, he should consider  immediately having surgery as soon as the season is over.  He would probably be ready by next year. The good news with the surgery is he is completely repaired.

I have five digit medical bills from my kids dealing with this  injury . Just by watching Luke I can sense he is having issues that are going to become chronic .

[T-Bone]

Stick it in a boot between games.

[forgetful]

It was reported that Luke suffered a torn labrum in the fall of his year at Indiana. He elected not to have  surgery. The issue with the non surgical approach is there is an approximate 90 percent reoccurrence rate. All the physical therapy and training in the world doesn't matter.

If he has arthroscopic surgery it takes 22-24 weeks to get cleared to play contact sports. Then realistically your looking at up to 3 months of intense training to recover from the atrophied muscle and get back in shape.

If Luke can make it through the season, which is a big if, he should consider  immediately having surgery as soon as the season is over.  He would probably be ready by next year. The good news with the surgery is he is completely repaired.

I have five digit medical bills from my kids dealing with this  injury . Just by watching Luke I can sense he is having issues that are going to become chronic .

There are different types of torn Labrum's and the surgeries or recommendation for a surgery is highly dependent upon which type of tear.  Similarly the recoveries depend on which type of tear it is and what type of surgery is performed.

[AlienWarrior]

There are different types of torn Labrum's and the surgeries or recommendation for a surgery is highly dependent upon which type of tear.  Similarly the recoveries depend on which type of tear it is and what type of surgery is performed.

correct response

[MUDPT]

There are different types of torn Labrum's and the surgeries or recommendation for a surgery is highly dependent upon which type of tear.  Similarly the recoveries depend on which type of tear it is and what type of surgery is performed.

+1000 and the rate of failure on these surgeries is higher than just a "plain" rotator cuff.

[Skatastrophy]

As someone on the internet, I really think he should have had surgery on something. For sure.

[augoman]

We are woefully under-informed to be surmising as to whether Luke should have gone under the knife or not. I know it's Scoop and all, but this is too much.

Windy,  I believe you misread my post..., or at least misunderstood it.

[mr.MUskie]

Stick it in a boot between games.

Yeah, don't we have any shoulder boots?

[ATVSandKARATE]

As an internet Doctor, I prescribe scoop some chill pills. His shoulder is going to be a chronic problem, but Steve's knee was ok last year? If you ask the player, they will usually say that they are good to go, because they are competitors. Unless anyone shows me proof of his diagnosis, I don't see the point in speculating what his exact injury is and the best way to fix it. Nobody here knows.

[GooooMarquette]

A fifth of Jack and a handful of oxycodone before every game.

What could possibly go wrong?

[The Process]

I'm just gonna sit back, relax,  and Respect the Process of Scoop Speculation.

[Bricky]

Looked like he had a shoulder separation, possibly some time ago,  that has not healed and was aggrevated by the hit in the game. You have to have had one to understand the type of pain in his face. It is like bone grinding on bone but it did not pop out so back in the game is not a surprise once the pain subsides.

I would expect surgery in the off season. Tendons simply do not tighten automatically. But hey, I'm not a doctor.

I have a 3rd degree separation in my right shoulder from a snowboarding accident. It's painful for the first year. But after, you forget that it's separated. A small downward slap wouldn't hurt it like that. It only hurts when it's bent in overstretched directions, like when your arm gets tangled up with a defender.

[keefe]

A fifth of Jack and a handful of oxycodone before every game.

Is there a rule limiting this to just game time, Doc?

[GooooMarquette]

Is there a rule limiting this to just game time, Doc?

Absolutely not.  Part of my everyday training routine....

[keefe]

Absolutely not.  Part of my everyday training routine....

I find that a snort of Laphroaig makes it the Holy Trinity

[4everwarriors]

Many playas have had their middle leg displaced and it didn't hurt their game at all, hey?

[MURFC]

I have a 3rd degree separation in my right shoulder from a snowboarding accident. It's painful for the first year. But after, you forget that it's separated. A small downward slap wouldn't hurt it like that. It only hurts when it's bent in overstretched directions, like when your arm gets tangled up with a defender.

An AC joint injury is a totally different.  Not to mention what kind of complicating injuries/conditions Luke has.  I've had multiple separations on both shoulders from years rugby.  Those have caused me little to no recurring pain (yet).  However, I also had recurring stingers from neck and shoulder nerve compression.  A well placed and unexpected slap on my back can can cause a shot of fire to run down my right arm and a good amount of pain.  It is gone within 30 seconds. 

[Jay Bee]

A well placed and unexpected slap on my back can can cause a shot of fire to run down my right arm and a good amount of pain. 

You receive a lot of these?

I am only an expert on most things, not all, but I think with labrum tears you will sometimes find the real extent of what's up once you actually go into the shoulder... so, how bad it is / the exact procedures / healing & rehab process / etc. may not  be known with great precision until a surgery is performed.

I say drug him up before each game.

Probably will have to call it a season days before selection sunday.. causing us to miss the tourney.