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Eldon

*Picks up spear
*Picks up shield
*Makes a post: In fairness, Ners did give praise to DeWil when he played well or when he didn't play awful.
*Braces self

tower912

Quote from: Eldon on December 23, 2014, 02:06:02 AM
*Picks up spear
*Picks up shield
*Makes a post: In fairness, Ners did give praise to DeWil when he played well or when he didn't play awful.
*Braces self

You are correct.    And then, 2 minutes later, it would begin again. 
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brewcity77

Quote from: Eldon on December 23, 2014, 02:06:02 AM
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*Makes a post: In fairness, Ners did give praise to DeWil when he played well or when he didn't play awful.
*Braces self

He did, but also always seemed to add qualifiers or mix in a dig while complimenting him.

WarriorInNYC

Quote from: Skitch on December 23, 2014, 01:48:01 AM
Derrick for sure.  Juan had a great all around game as well.

Did it seem to anyone else like Dicky Simpkins has a serious crush on Derrick? 

Yes, he must have said at least 10 times about too many point guards these days are all about scoring, but Derrick Wilson "is a true point guard".  It seemed like any time Derrick touched the ball Dickey was losing his mind about it.

madtownwarrior

I would go co-studs - Derrick and JJJ

ATWizJr

Quote from: Eldon on December 23, 2014, 02:06:02 AM
*Picks up spear
*Picks up shield
*Makes a post: In fairness, Ners did give praise to DeWil when he played well or when he didn't play awful.
*Braces self
Who cares?  You two seeing each other?

jsglow

Let me add one more thing.  6 assists, 0 turnovers.  Outstanding game Derrick.

Truth be told, when Derrick is our SOTG lots of other guys are having an off night.  So it'll always be less than a 'pretty' win.  But I'm not sure I recall him playing a better game during his time at MU and I believe we ran the risk of losing without his performance last night.  Kudos Derrick.

MU82

Quote from: Skitch on December 23, 2014, 01:48:01 AM
Did it seem to anyone else like Dicky Simpkins has a serious crush on Derrick? 

Yes, undeniably, Dickey has a serious man-crush on Derrick. He basically said -- on more than one occasion -- that Derrick was a PG he would choose to build a team around.

Of course, in talking about Luke the previous game, Dickey also said he couldn't remember when Marquette had a player capable of scoring in the low post.

In other words, Dickey either hasn't seen enough Marquette hoops the last couple of years or he's got the worst memory since Reagan couldn't recall who Ollie North was.
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brewcity77

Quote from: jsglow on December 23, 2014, 10:06:24 AMTruth be told, when Derrick is our SOTG lots of other guys are having an off night.  So it'll always be less than a 'pretty' win.

I remember thinking last night that just about everyone was bad, but Derrick was the least bad. Then he turned it up and was very good.

dgies9156

Kinda nice to see Derrick as STOG.

He's been working hard to raise his game and it is nice to see it is showing.


chapman

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 23, 2014, 07:17:19 AM
He did, but also always seemed to add qualifiers or mix in a dig while complimenting him.

Related note that many have brought up in the past, but I hope we can put the annoying "best playing 10-15 minutes" line to bed.  It's fruitless and backhanded, and could be said about anyone if we had a roster full and talented enough.  36 last night, and should not have been any less.

brewcity77

Anyone else notice that while Junior took more 3's, Derrick is actually shooting a higher percentage from beyond the arc as a senior?

mattyv1908

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 23, 2014, 11:38:49 AM
Anyone else notice that while Junior took more 3's, Derrick is actually shooting a higher percentage from beyond the arc as a senior?

Yes, but I think the sample size is too small.  In other words, I don't think that would hold true if he was taking the same amount of shots.

Either way, any shot that falls from Derrick from the outside is a bonus.
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warriorchick

Quote from: mattyv1908 on December 23, 2014, 11:54:26 AM
Yes, but I think the sample size is too small.  In other words, I don't think that would hold true if he was taking the same amount of shots.

Either way, any shot that falls from Derrick from the outside is a bonus.

Maybe Derrick is better at shot selection.
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Canned Goods n Ammo

If Derrick can give you an efficient 5, 5 & 5, that's a pretty useful PG. Sometimes he can go off like last night, but for the most part, he's going to be around 5,5&5.

He's got to get that shooting % up, but I think he's capable. 


Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 23, 2014, 11:38:49 AM
Anyone else notice that while Junior took more 3's, Derrick is actually shooting a higher percentage from beyond the arc as a senior?

I agree with mattyv about the small sample size.  But considering Derrick entered the year 2-24 for his career, 3-13 is lights out shooting!  Heck, Dominic James was a relative marksman at 29.1% on 3FG for his career.  The bigger difference is James made over 150 career three's vs the 5 Derrick has to date.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU82 on December 23, 2014, 10:18:51 AM
Yes, undeniably, Dickey has a serious man-crush on Derrick. He basically said -- on more than one occasion -- that Derrick was a PG he would choose to build a team around.


Elite game changer, aina?

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: warriorchick on December 23, 2014, 11:55:43 AM
Maybe Derrick is better at shot selection.

His shot selection should be don't shoot ever...when talking 3s.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

brewcity77

Quote from: mattyv1908 on December 23, 2014, 11:54:26 AM
Yes, but I think the sample size is too small.  In other words, I don't think that would hold true if he was taking the same amount of shots.

Either way, any shot that falls from Derrick from the outside is a bonus.

I actually wonder about that. His confidence clearly isn't there beyond the arc, but he's had a decent amount this year that were in and out. While any shooter can probably say the same, I wonder if Derrick might be able to hit closer to 30% if he had the willingness to shoot more often.

Regardless, they are all bonus, but Junior shot a near identical percentage his junior year as Derrick is shooting now and took fewer threes per game than Derrick is taking this year. Honestly, I've never really believed Junior was a much better shooter than Derrick, just more willing to shoot.

jsglow

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on December 23, 2014, 12:24:44 PM
His shot selection should be don't shoot ever...when talking 3s.

Ridiculous statement.  Last night Derrick refused a good shot with about 8-10 left on the 35 clock that would have been taken in rhythm.  Instead he hesitated, made a tough entry pass to Luke and got it back forcing a tough shot as the clock ran down.  Derrick needs to be selective, of course.  But just like Steve and Juan need to rise up when the situation dictates, the same must be true for Derrick.  I'm not saying that we're designing offense so Derrick can shoot (unlike Carlino, JjJ or Duane), but he has to shoot when it makes sense. 

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 23, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
Elite game changer, aina?

Not even close. He had a good game last night against North Dakota, who aren't exactly world beaters. i give him credit for a well played game last night, but let's not get carried away.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: jsglow on December 23, 2014, 01:14:30 PM
Ridiculous statement.  Last night Derrick refused a good shot with about 8-10 left on the 35 clock that would have been taken in rhythm.  Instead he hesitated, made a tough entry pass to Luke and got it back forcing a tough shot as the clock ran down.  Derrick needs to be selective, of course.  But just like Steve and Juan need to rise up when the situation dictates, the same must be true for Derrick.  I'm not saying that we're designing offense so Derrick can shoot (unlike Carlino, JjJ or Duane), but he has to shoot when it makes sense. 

Thing is, it doesn't make sense that is the point. He should be driving and using his strength as he did yesterday. That is where he is good. If he has room on the perimeter use it to make a move to the hole or find the open guy. Just because he forced a tough pass doesn't mean he should shoot, it means find a better play.

The 3 he made was a fine shot since we already had the game won. In a close game it's just scary.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

forgetful

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 23, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
I actually wonder about that. His confidence clearly isn't there beyond the arc, but he's had a decent amount this year that were in and out. While any shooter can probably say the same, I wonder if Derrick might be able to hit closer to 30% if he had the willingness to shoot more often.

Regardless, they are all bonus, but Junior shot a near identical percentage his junior year as Derrick is shooting now and took fewer threes per game than Derrick is taking this year. Honestly, I've never really believed Junior was a much better shooter than Derrick, just more willing to shoot.

I wholeheartedly disagree.  Compared to your average person, Junior was actually a very good outside shooter (shot around 42% from 3 in High School).  For anyone that saw the Pro-Am game where he scored around 80 pts, you would see Junior was a respectable shooter under lax defenses. 

In the college game though, he was not a great shooter, nor was he allowed to shoot in Buzz's offense.  The vast majority of Junior's shots were buzzer beater shots when the shot-clock or game clock ran down.  Everyone will have low percentages then.

Similarly, Derrick's 3's last year were the same kind.  This year, Derrick has taken a few selective open 3's (I'd say about a third of his 13) and I think it has upped his percentage a bit.  He is a much improved shooter compared to last year, but still not a respectable shooter.

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Junior's pull-up from the elbow was money
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Quote from: swoopem on December 23, 2014, 05:29:03 PM
Junior's pull-up from the elbow was money
So was his three against UConn.
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