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wadesworld

Quote from: guzica on December 09, 2014, 01:09:38 PM
Opens a schollie  for Stone...    ;)   just sayin'... 8-)

Already was a schollie open for Stone...    ;)   just sayin'... 8-)

Hards Alumni

Woof.  Hard hit, but Deonte seemed disinterested so far this year.  A shell of himself.  Dawson is no surprise.

brewcity77

Disappointed, but not surprised. I don't think either would be here had Wojo been in charge of our 2013 recruiting class. Best of luck to both guys, hope they land on their feet.

Nukem2

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 09, 2014, 01:11:18 PM

Nothing so far.  My guess is that it will only be BE schools.
I would guess so as well.

swoopem

My guess is Deonte ends up at Iowa St and Dawson heads back to New Mexico.

Man, does it suck to see Deonte go.
Bring back FFP!!!

mattyv1908

Does this now officially change the Derrick/Dawson debate to the Derrick/JJJ or Cohen debate?
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martyconlonontherun

Hard to tell if this was more Deonte or Wojo but Burton may have seen his minutes getting drastically cut with the additions of Fischer, Heldt, Ellenson and others over the next 2 years.

MUfan12

Unless four players foul out, these moves will have little effect on the rest of this season. Dawson wasn't playing, and Burton was awful in the limited minutes he got.

real chili 83

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on December 09, 2014, 01:14:31 PM
Hard to tell if this was more Deonte or Wojo but Burton may have seen his minutes getting drastically cut with the additions of Fischer, Heldt, Ellenson and others over the next 2 years.

This.

We R Final Four

Quote from: wadesworld on December 09, 2014, 01:08:58 PM
Burton is not Wojo's type of player.  Very talented no doubt and he will have success, but he was as much of a Buzz guy as you could find.  And Wojo's ideal of how the game should be played is much different from Buzz's.  Which is why we have seen the difficulties we have so far early in this season with guys just like Burton.

Again, stinks because Burton has talent, but at the same time he doesn't fit what Wojo is trying to do/isn't the type of player Wojo is looking for.
Not sure why so many are so shocked. It has been very clear that DB is not a Wojo guy and vice versa.

I'll trust Wojo on upgrade.

jficke13

Can we even go 5-5 in practice now?

Aircraftcarrier

I feel bad for Burton.Great talent but was never taught the game.He looks lost on the defensive end.A high school player is very fortunate if they have a good High School coach.Give me John McGuire,Paul Noack,Bob Letsch,Gene Pingatore,Bob Hurley and Tom Diener.Most of there players have been taught well.

MUchamp22

Anyone think they may go to VT...?

g0lden3agle

To those who say Deonte didn't fit what Wojo was looking for- what exactly is the mold Wojo is looking for, and what about Deonte didn't fit that mold?

Nevada233

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 09, 2014, 01:06:11 PM
I think this is the first time since Mbakwe that I'm legitimately disheartened by a transfer leaving. I really think Burton is going to be something special.

Best of luck to the both of them. They have been fantastic members of the Marquette community. I hope they find places they can call home.

Thank you so much...... Its appreciated very much.. Its been fun.  

GGGG

Quote from: draino22 on December 09, 2014, 01:17:18 PM
Anyone think they may go to VT...?


Dawson?  No.  Burton?  Possibly - and I would be fine with that.

Skatastrophy

Grades?

Deonte was sticking around for his mom. Maybe there's nothing tethering him to the city anymore.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on December 09, 2014, 01:14:31 PM
Hard to tell if this was more Deonte or Wojo but Burton may have seen his minutes getting drastically cut with the additions of Fischer, Heldt, Ellenson and others over the next 2 years.

I doubt that.  He's a 2.  Those guys are 4 and 5s.

Eldon

Quote from: We R Final Four on December 09, 2014, 01:15:50 PM
Not sure why so many are so shocked. It has been very clear that DB is not a Wojo guy and vice versa.

I'll trust Wojo on upgrade.

I'm shocked because I was under the impression that Wojo was able to work with what he had.

WayOfTheWarrior

Quote from: g0lden3agle on December 09, 2014, 01:18:32 PM
To those who say Deonte didn't fit what Wojo was looking for- what exactly is the mold Wojo is looking for, and what about Deonte didn't fit that mold?

I would think it has to do with defense. I can't think of any other aspect of Deonte's game that would be limiting his minutes this much, especially in a shorthanded rotation.

GGGG

Quote from: g0lden3agle on December 09, 2014, 01:18:32 PM
To those who say Deonte didn't fit what Wojo was looking for- what exactly is the mold Wojo is looking for, and what about Deonte didn't fit that mold?


I think Burton is dribble-drive, "paint touches" type of player.  I think Wojo wants more floor spacing and shooting ability.  If you look at the players he is bringing it, I think they generally fit that mold.

mattyv1908

Quote from: g0lden3agle on December 09, 2014, 01:18:32 PM
To those who say Deonte didn't fit what Wojo was looking for- what exactly is the mold Wojo is looking for, and what about Deonte didn't fit that mold?

Thanks for this post.

Defaulting to 'doesn't fit what Wojo is looking for' is intentionally turning a blind eye to the reality that a young, still developing and talented player is leaving the program.

I'm one who believes that despite Wojo's petigree, MU will never recruit with the likes of Duke/Kentucky/Kansas/etc. and is inclined to believe that recruiting the best players from your geographical area and keeping them here is important.
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Pakuni

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Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 09, 2014, 01:19:36 PM
I doubt that.  He's a 2.  Those guys are 4 and 5s.

Problem is, Deonte isn't a two. He's arguably a three. He plays on the offensive end more like a four in the body of a 2/3. On the defensive end ... he  has no position.
In the right system, he can excel offensively. But Wojo's system apparently is not that system.

brewcity77

Quote from: g0lden3agle on December 09, 2014, 01:18:32 PM
To those who say Deonte didn't fit what Wojo was looking for- what exactly is the mold Wojo is looking for, and what about Deonte didn't fit that mold?

Deonte is a great athlete but I'm not sure he's a great basketball player. The guys we are recruiting seem to have received great coaching. The one real chance Deonte had at that was Brewster and he didn't last long at all. I think this is one more example of the cultural shift we are undergoing.

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