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Next up: A long offseason

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Schedule for 2024-25
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How long will Derrick be given to prove he can shoot before being benched?

3 games
13 (18.3%)
5 games
17 (23.9%)
The Entire Non Conference Season
15 (21.1%)
Half The Season
5 (7%)
The Whole Season
21 (29.6%)

Total Members Voted: 71

Texas Western

How long will Wojo give Derrick to prove he can shoot at a respectable level for a starting point guard at a high D1 school before he severely restricts his playing time.

My definition of respectable is 70 percent from the line and 33 percent from 3 point line.


Johnny B

#1
Quote from: Texas Western on September 08, 2014, 10:19:19 PM
How long will Wojo give Derrick to prove he can shoot at a respectable level for a starting point guard at a high D1 school before he severely restricts his playing time.

My definition of respectable is 70 percent from the line and 33 percent from 3 point line.


I guarantee he won't reach those stats. My guess is after a couple games wojo sees that Matt Duane Jon are all better shooters and his minutes drop to a defensive role player.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Derrick will play and likely not score much. This year we have alternatives. Hope I am wrong.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

Texas Western

Quote from: Johnny Basketball on September 08, 2014, 10:24:11 PM
I guarantee he won't reach those stats. My guess is after a couple games wojo sees that Matt Duane Jon are all better shooters and his minutes drop to a defensive role player.
Those stats are approximately what the Villanova point guard had. If Derrick can perform to this level it would be great for us. If he doesn't then I hope your right and Wojo moves on. I really think we need to give max minutes to Duane.

Johnny B

Quote from: Texas Western on September 08, 2014, 10:55:56 PM
Those stats are approximately what the Villanova point guard had. If Derrick can perform to this level it would be great for us. If he doesn't then I hope your right and Wojo moves on. I really think we need to give max minutes to Duane.
I agree, I think Duane is our future and he needs to play.

Texas Western

Quote from: Johnny Basketball on September 08, 2014, 11:16:47 PM
I agree, I think Duane is our future and he needs to play.
Max minutes for Duane equals max production for Deonte.

Wojo'sMojo

I don't think Derrick will be starting and will get minutes only in defensive situations and blowouts. He has had three seasons to show what he can do. He is who he is and one offseason of shooting a bunch of jumpers isn't going to change a whole lifetime of bad shooting.

keefe



Death on call

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: keefe on September 08, 2014, 11:54:00 PM
No mention of Dawson...

liked him in Hogan's Heroes but not so much on Family Feud

bilsu

I think you just do not give him credit for being the team leader. He will play simply because Wojo will like him. Remember he worked to keep the team together and did the blogs this summer about the team. Irregardless of his abilities he is a player the coach is simply going to like and trust.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Texas Western on September 08, 2014, 10:19:19 PM
How long will Wojo give Derrick to prove he can shoot at a respectable level for a starting point guard at a high D1 school before he severely restricts his playing time.

My definition of respectable is 70 percent from the line and 33 percent from 3 point line.


So, your poll assumes that Derrick won't be able to reach those numbers?  All that shooting practice this summer in vain!
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Canned Goods n Ammo

I'm a Derrick fan.

I think he can be effective for 20mpg.

I think he'll probably start early in the year, and depending upon how it goes, we'll see what happens.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Texas Western on September 08, 2014, 10:55:56 PM
Those stats are approximately what the Villanova point guard had. If Derrick can perform to this level it would be great for us. If he doesn't then I hope your right and Wojo moves on. I really think we need to give max minutes to Duane.

So, you define Ryan Arcidiacono as "respectable".    May Marquette have five "respectable" starters this year. ;D


Why not ask the question of how long Wojo will stick with Duane, if Duane doesn't produce "respectable" numbers?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

MU82

Quote from: madhouse on September 09, 2014, 10:43:19 AM
liked him in Hogan's Heroes but not so much on Family Feud

Newkirk thought he was cool but he wasn't. I preferred Kinch and LeBeau. Carter? Now there was an effen moron!
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: Texas Western on September 08, 2014, 10:19:19 PM
How long will Wojo give Derrick to prove he can shoot at a respectable level for a starting point guard at a high D1 school before he severely restricts his playing time.

My definition of respectable is 70 percent from the line and 33 percent from 3 point line.



By your definition Dominique James was a seriously less than respectable point guard. I disagree.

Afroman

Did a few posters commenting on this thread suffer serious head injuries since last season ended?

esotericmindguy

Can you add an option for the first practice? I'd vote on that? Silly poll question, he can't shoot and your numbers are ridiculous. 33% from 3 is pretty solid, that's about what Carlino shot. Wilson will be closer to 23%. It's not something you can fix in one summer, he should have been doing this his entire life....too many bad habits formed.

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: bilsu on September 09, 2014, 10:46:56 AM
I think you just do not give him credit for being the team leader. He will play simply because Wojo will like him. Remember he worked to keep the team together and did the blogs this summer about the team. Irregardless of his abilities he is a player the coach is simply going to like and trust.

Are you inferring that he should receive playing time because he kept the team together and he is a good guy? Wojo needs to keep his personal opinions separate from what is good for the team. If Derrick proves to be the best player then play him, if not he needs to roll with the better option. This is high major basketball and playing someone regardless of ability is a recipe for disaster, hence last years record.

humanlung

Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on September 08, 2014, 11:36:01 PM
I don't think Derrick will be starting and will get minutes only in defensive situations and blowouts. He has had three seasons to show what he can do. He is who he is and one offseason of shooting a bunch of jumpers isn't going to change a whole lifetime of bad shooting.

I think this might be the winner.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Afroman on September 09, 2014, 11:31:39 AM
Did a few posters commenting on this thread suffer serious head injuries since last season ended?

Ganja, mon, ganja.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: esotericmindguy on September 09, 2014, 11:35:09 AM
Can you add an option for the first practice? I'd vote on that? Silly poll question, he can't shoot and your numbers are ridiculous. 33% from 3 is pretty solid, that's about what Carlino shot. Wilson will be closer to 23%. It's not something you can fix in one summer, he should have been doing this his entire life....too many bad habits formed.

This part I'm not sure about. I'm no expert, but his shot form seems to be pretty close to perfect. I don't think he'll ever be a lights out shooter, or even an average one, but I think he could potentially get to Junior Cadougan type levels.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Lennys Tap

Derrick Wilson has been playing basketball all of his life. He has never been a good shooter and never will be. Haters here thought he should be playing scrub minutes behind Dawson last year. This year's coach will have 3 better options than we had last year to play in front of Derrick - a year older Dawson, Du Wilson and Carlino. So this year that segment of the fan base should excoriate Wojo if (when) Derrick plays at all. They won't, though.

Texas Western

Quote from: LittleMurs on September 09, 2014, 10:51:07 AM
So, your poll assumes that Derrick won't be able to reach those numbers?  All that shooting practice this summer in vain!
It assumes that Wojo wont give away another year to a poor shooting point guard.  Option 5 essentially implies he will make the numbers.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Texas Western on September 09, 2014, 12:05:57 PM
It assumes that Wojo wont give away another year to a poor shooting point guard.  Option 5 essentially implies he will make the numbers.

So your poll should have asked: How many games will Wojo give away by playing Derrick

       1. None, he'll never see the court
       2. A few, he a rookie coach and doesn't know what we know
       3. Several, I hear he's a hard headed Polak
       4. The whole damn season

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