Scout 2015 Class Rankings updated today

[slack00]

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Marquette in at #13 with Heldt (#56 overall - #15 C) and Noskowiak (#89 overall - #14 PG).  Needless to say, adding H. Ellenson (#6 - #2 PF) and Cheatham (#80 overall - #25 SG) would be a home run of a class, not to mention the availability of W. Ellenson and G. Levin next year.

[Texas Western]

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Marquette in at #13 with Heldt (#56 overall - #15 C) and Noskowiak (#89 overall - #14 PG).  Needless to say, adding H. Ellenson (#6 - #2 PF) and Cheatham (#80 overall - #25 SG) would be a home run of a class, not to mention the availability of W. Ellenson and G. Levin next year.

Heldt was a value stock for us.

[Freeport Warrior]

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not to mention the availability of W. Ellenson and G. Levin next year.

If Wally ever plays significant minutes for us we are in deep trouble.

[MU82]

If Wally ever plays significant minutes for us we are in deep trouble.

Have you seen Wally play a lot the last few years, dating back to when he was in high school? If so, please share some impressions of his game based on your extended observations of his abilities.

[avid1010]

If Wally ever plays significant minutes for us we are in deep trouble.

yeah, yeah...the same thing was said about jake thomas...oh, wait.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

If Wally ever plays significant minutes for us we are in deep trouble.

Really? This is the opposite of what I have been hearing.

[Johnny B]

yeah, yeah...the same thing was said about jake thomas...oh, wait.

Are you saying take Thomas played a lot and actually was productive or jake Thomas played a lot and we actually were in trouble(we were). Jake Thomas could do nothing but hit an occasional 3 pt

[avid1010]

Are you saying take Thomas played a lot and actually was productive or jake Thomas played a lot and we actually were in trouble(we were). Jake Thomas could do nothing but hit an occasional 3 pt

we knew we were in trouble when we needed jake thomas to get the minutes he did. 

[brandx]

Really? This is the opposite of what I have been hearing.

I see him as a high energy guy off the bench - maybe 12-15 minutes a game. Just based on the couple times I have seen him play.

[Johnny B]

we knew we were in trouble when we needed jake thomas to get the minutes he did. 

Fact.

[MU Buff]

we knew we were in trouble when we needed jake thomas to get the minutes he did. 

We didn't need him to get the minutes he did, that was Buzz's decision. There were other options.

[keefe]

We didn't need him to get the minutes he did, that was Buzz's decision. There were other options.

Precisely

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

We didn't need him to get the minutes he did, that was Buzz's decision. There were other options.

I've accepted that for other players but not for Jake. Our three point shooting was so terrible last season that we had no choice but to play Jake.

[martyconlonontherun]

I find it funny that we blame buzz for playing Thomas over mayo when it became very clear quickly that wojo had no place on this team for Mayo.

[Dawson Rental]

Are you saying take Thomas played a lot and actually was productive or jake Thomas played a lot and we actually were in trouble(we were). Jake Thomas could do nothing but hit an occasional 3 pt

You really needed to ask?

[ATWizJr]

I find it funny that we blame buzz for playing Thomas over mayo when it became very clear quickly that wojo had no place on this team for Mayo.

I find it funny that we didn't have other, better, options.  Oh wait....

[keefe]

I find it funny that we blame buzz for playing Thomas over mayo when it became very clear quickly that wojo had no place on this team for Mayo.

You miss the point of the Mayo narrative. There is a LOT more to that saga.

[Freeport Warrior]

If so, please share some impressions of his game based on your extended observations of his abilities.

Didn't say anything about "extended" observations, Mr. Ellenson. Simply my opinion, an eye test of the few times I've seen him play plus input from my media friend who has seen him play extensively. Great athlete, awesome vertical - no mid-range, mediocre handle and no right hand. My opinion would be that Cohen would see those kind of 10-15 minutes next year instead of Ellensen.

[GOO]

When was the last time we had a center raked like Heldt (#56 overall - #15 C)?  There have to have been centers ranked this high since Mac, but I don't remember any offhand.   Sure will be nice to have 2 legit centers (Fischer and Heldt) next year, but with Heldt able to learn and play without the pressure of having to start right away.

Seems like Wojo is going to have guys at every position that can shoot the ball and draw defenders.  Next year we could see a team that won't allow other teams to play zone and clog the lane.

[MU82]

Didn't say anything about "extended" observations, Mr. Ellenson. Simply my opinion, an eye test of the few times I've seen him play plus input from my media friend who has seen him play extensively. Great athlete, awesome vertical - no mid-range, mediocre handle and no right hand. My opinion would be that Cohen would see those kind of 10-15 minutes next year instead of Ellensen.

Mr. Ellenson. Precious.

Aside from this unnecessary snideness, thanks for explaining your viewpoint instead of just firing off an unexplained opinion, as you did the first time.

[NersEllenson]

We didn't need him to get the minutes he did, that was Buzz's decision. There were other options.

+1 - As there were at other positions.  Even if you people want to say Mayo's attitude was the issue for him not playing - Burton and Dawson - had great attitudes.  JJJ did as well, until January when Buzz decided to bury him on the bench.

Nothing quite like being a 5-star recruit as a shooting guard and seeing the guy in front of you being simply unable to make a 2 point FG...okay...a slight exaggeration...but Jake made 9, 2pt FGs all year.  That is not getting it done in any way, shape or form as a starting shooting guard at this level.

[BCHoopster]

So the best point on Wally is that he has room to improve.  He will have a year and a half to do that, lets see how the coaches improve his game.  If you have athletic ability witch he has, 7
foot high jumper, I am sure if he wants he can be coached up.  More importantly, he gets along with his brother and want to hang together at MU.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I find it funny that we blame buzz for playing Thomas over mayo when it became very clear quickly that wojo had no place on this team for Mayo.

I wouldn't necessarily agree with this one, though there are kernels of truth to it.  He made his own bed and the former coach helped to put the sheets and comforter on it.

[Lennys Tap]

Nothing quite like being a 5-star recruit as a shooting guard and seeing the guy in front of you being simply unable to make a 2 point FG...okay...a slight exaggeration...but Jake made 9, 2pt FGs all year.  That is not getting it done in any way, shape or form as a starting shooting guard at this level.

5-star recruit at shooting guard? Who? Our last 5-star recruit at shooting guard was Butch Lee.

[Skatastrophy]

Our last 5-star recruit at shooting guard was Butch Lee.

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