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77ncaachamps

Former MU player traded for Milwaukee-born player.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--raptors-agree-to-trade-steve-novak-to-jazz-181622872.html

Read the last sentence.


In a move to create salary cap space, the Toronto Raptors have reached an agreement to send Steve Novak to the Utah Jazz, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Along with Novak and the two years and $7.2 million left on his contract, the Raptors will send a future second-round draft pick to Utah, sources said. The deal can't be completed until the league's moratorium ends on Thursday.

The Jazz will send the Raptors guard Diante Garrett, who, with a $915,000 non-guaranteed deal for this season, will be waived, sources said.

Novak, 31, gives the Jazz a three-point-shooting specialist whose career had taken a step back in limited minutes with the Raptors last season. Novak had played 20.3 minutes per game for the New York Knicks in 2012-13, but a trade to Toronto severely cut into his playing time and production last season.

In eight NBA seasons with six teams, Novak has averaged five points per game. He was a second-round pick in 2006 out of Marquette, where he played for coach Tom Crean.
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4everwarriors

Appropriate for Steve to shoot off some celebration fireworks tonight. Just cashed in his "get out of jail" card, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

keefe

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 04, 2014, 04:48:10 PM
Appropriate for Steve to shoot off some celebration fireworks tonight. Just cashed in his "get out of jail" card, hey?
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This is a good career move for him. And with SLC's higher elevation his range is probably extended by at least 8-10'. Hopefully he takes out some "temporary memberships" in some of SLC's "private clubs." I love the Wasatch powder but the SL Valley ethos is pure horse sh1t.


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77ncaachamps

Quote from: keefe on July 04, 2014, 07:57:32 PM
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This is a good career move for him. And with SLC's higher elevation his range is probably extended by at least 8-10'. Hopefully he takes out some "temporary memberships" in some of SLC's "private clubs." I love the Wasatch powder but the SL Valley ethos is pure horse sh1t.


Don't give in, Scoopers.

DON'T GO OFF TOPIC IN THIS THREAD.
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keefe

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on July 04, 2014, 08:26:04 PM

Don't give in, Scoopers.

DON'T GO OFF TOPIC IN THIS THREAD.

How is concern for Novak's drinking opportunities in his new venue going off topic? Frankly, I feel I speak for the majority of Scoopers in saying that a man's access to alcohol is of very real concern and is legitimate grist for the Scoop Mill.


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77ncaachamps

Quote from: keefe on July 04, 2014, 09:41:12 PM
How is concern for Novak's drinking opportunities in his new venue going off topic? Frankly, I feel I speak for the majority of Scoopers in saying that a man's access to alcohol is of very real concern and is legitimate grist for the Scoop Mill.

Sometimes, Keefe, you can be too much! lol
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WellsstreetWanderer

Quote from: keefe on July 04, 2014, 09:41:12 PM
How is concern for Novak's drinking opportunities in his new venue going off topic? Frankly, I feel I speak for the majority of Scoopers in saying that a man's access to alcohol is of very real concern and is legitimate grist for the Scoop Mill.

  Last time I was in SLC we celebrated so much in a Sushi Bar, I had to pay the valet to drive us back to the hotel.  Steve will find a way to imbibe there?

Otule's Glass Eye


keefe

Quote from: elephantraker on July 04, 2014, 11:19:26 PM
   Steve will find a way to imbibe there

He's a Marquette Man. I would expect nothing less.


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TAMU, Knower of Ball

I lived in SLC for a summer. If you know where to go, you can find some great watering holes. The Green Pig and The Dive were two of my favorites. Of course you have to follow the oppressive 1 AM last call.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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keefe

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 06, 2014, 12:42:42 PM
I lived in SLC for a summer. If you know where to go, you can find some great watering holes. The Green Pig and The Dive were two of my favorites. Of course you have to follow the oppressive 1 AM last call.

They have the most inane and bizarre liquor laws this side of Mecca. The state even has Liquor Inspectors who roam the Deseret looking for ways to inflict God's Wrath on the wicked. It is weird driving through Utah and passing towns of two thousand residents that have 20 temple steeples as the only distinguishing landmark.

Utah is a land of tremendous beauty but I limit myself to Park City, Moab, and Zion.


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MU82

Quote from: keefe on July 06, 2014, 12:51:36 PM
They have the most inane and bizarre liquor laws this side of Mecca.

Once upon a time, I drank quite a few beers watching MU play at Mecca!
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JWags85

Even more so, its gonna be weird going from living in, arguably, the two most cosmopolitan cities in North America in NYC and Toronto...to Salt Lake City

Nukem2

Quote from: JWags85 on July 08, 2014, 09:36:05 AM
Even more so, its gonna be weird going from living in, arguably, the two most cosmopolitan cities in North America in NYC and Toronto...to Salt Lake City
SLC has a lot more going for it for a young family than NYC or Toronto.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Nukem2 on July 08, 2014, 09:52:23 AM
SLC has a lot more going for it for a young family than NYC or Toronto.

Did you really just type that?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 08, 2014, 10:53:53 AM
Did you really just type that?

I've never been to Toronto but NYC is a terrible place to raise a family. SLC is a very welcoming, safe, and wholesome environment. I loved the summer I spent there.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 08, 2014, 12:02:56 PM
I've never been to Toronto but NYC is a terrible place to raise a family. SLC is a very welcoming, safe, and wholesome environment. I loved the summer I spent there.

It must be my East Coast bias disagreeing with you.

I've been to Toronto several times and soon to include another visit next week.  Toronto reminds me of a Canadian version of Chicago.  If you want to get a feel for Toronto just watch HGTV --- Property Brothers, Income Property, Love It or List It, Mike Homes anything are all filmed in and around Toronto.

JWags85

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 08, 2014, 12:29:18 PM
It must be my East Coast bias disagreeing with you.

I've been to Toronto several times and soon to include another visit next week.  Toronto reminds me of a Canadian version of Chicago.  If you want to get a feel for Toronto just watch HGTV --- Property Brothers, Income Property, Love It or List It, Mike Homes anything are all filmed in and around Toronto.

Agreed.  It has the international feel and diversity of a NYC, but much more manageable, neighborhood-y, and chill than NYC.  Its expensive from a housing perspective, but being a professional athlete takes the sting out of that.

NYC is terrible to raise a family for a "normal" person, but being a multi-millionaire with a non-typical work commute or schedule who would could easily live in Westchester County or the like would be fine, including all the positives that NY has to offer.

This isn't you or I choosing SLC vs NYC.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 08, 2014, 12:29:18 PM
It must be my East Coast bias disagreeing with you.

I've been to Toronto several times and soon to include another visit next week.  Toronto reminds me of a Canadian version of Chicago.  If you want to get a feel for Toronto just watch HGTV --- Property Brothers, Income Property, Love It or List It, Mike Homes anything are all filmed in and around Toronto.

Again, I don't know about Toronto, but the example you gave, Chicago is another terrible place to raise a family. Not talking about any suburbs, I mean living in downtown Chicago or NYC. I wouldn't want my kids to live in either.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Lennys Tap

Quote from: JWags85 on July 08, 2014, 12:43:56 PM


NYC is terrible to raise a family for a "normal" person, but being a multi-millionaire with a non-typical work commute or schedule who would could easily live in Westchester County or the like would be fine, including all the positives that NY has to offer.



I have two nieces who are raising families in NYC (Brooklyn). They and their husbands are not multi-millionaires but they love it nonetheless.

I'm a "to each his own" person - pros and cons to city, suburb or country living. To me, though, the point of city living is energy, culture and the excitement that real diversity brings - and that's not Salt Lake City.

keefe

Quote from: JWags85 on July 08, 2014, 12:43:56 PM


NYC is terrible to raise a family for a "normal" person,

Leaving the specific NYC case aside, I'm not sure I would agree. We lived in some of the world's largest, most congested cities and found them to be great incubators for kids. Not everyone subscribes to the suburban superiority narrative. It is really just a matter of taste. What some see as an oasis is a wasteland to others.


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MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: JWags85 on July 08, 2014, 12:43:56 PM
Agreed.  It has the international feel and diversity of a NYC, but much more manageable, neighborhood-y, and chill than NYC.  Its expensive from a housing perspective, but being a professional athlete takes the sting out of that.

NYC is terrible to raise a family for a "normal" person, but being a multi-millionaire with a non-typical work commute or schedule who would could easily live in Westchester County or the like would be fine, including all the positives that NY has to offer.

This isn't you or I choosing SLC vs NYC.

I know a fair number of people who live in Connecticut and take the train to NYC every day and they are definitely not multi-millionaires.  My neighbor did it for years and surprising loved it despite the 1h40m train ride.   I used to laugh as I'd be just beginning my 5:30AM run and he would be sprinting out of his house to the car to catch the train.

And it does sound like you're mixing up a little of the Hollywood version of NYC with the real version of NYC.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 08, 2014, 01:09:14 PM
I have two nieces who are raising families in NYC (Brooklyn). They and their husbands are not multi-millionaires but they love it nonetheless.

I'm a "to each his own" person - pros and cons to city, suburb or country living. To me, though, the point of city living is energy, culture and the excitement that real diversity brings - and that's not Salt Lake City.

Thanks Lenny.  I could not have said it better myself. 

MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 08, 2014, 12:53:20 PM
Chicago is another terrible place to raise a family. Not talking about any suburbs, I mean living in downtown Chicago or NYC. I wouldn't want my kids to live in either.

Did you ever live in or raise a family in Chicago?

My wife and I lived in a little house on the north side, about a mile from Wrigley Field, from 1994-2010. Raised a son and daughter. They went to very good public schools (magnet schools), had great teachers, and learned that life wasn't all vanilla and white bread.

Their high school, Payton Prep, was about a third black, a third white, 20% Latino and the rest Asian. Their grade school was only about 50% white. They learned to get along. They learned there are good people and bad people of all races and creeds.

They learned how to be street-smart and self-reliant. They learned how to get around a city without a car; my son is in his mid-20s, still lives there and doesn't have a driver's license. We gave him the option to move to N.C. with us and he vowed he'd never leave Chicago. My daughter missed it so much she moved back from Seattle; though has since returned to Seattle for her job, she still refers to Chicago as "home."

There absolutely are areas of Chicago I would not want to raise a family, but lots of areas where I would ... and one where I did.

Can't one say the same about Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Toronto, L.A., Miami, Tampa, Atlanta, Charlotte? You name the major city and I can name lots of areas where I wouldn't consider living but some that I would.

Surprised at you, TAMU. You usually don't generalize without a base of knowledge!
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