Noskowiak recruiting Ellenson

[NersEllenson]

Ellenson fits better at Wisconsin but I'll take him

Perhaps if you are looking at things only by virtue of him being white...yet pretty sure any 5 star recruit would fit well at any program he chooses to go to.   \
I do hope though that Wojo can and does recruit the super athletic players successfully.  One of my favorite Buzz quotes was what he told the team before playing Wisconsin one season..can't recall which one...but Buzz said:  "F*ck with them.  Out athletic them."

[GGGG]

"Be more athletic than they are. F--k with them."

Before the 2011 game at the Kohl Center.

[NersEllenson]

"Be more athletic than they are. F--k with them."

Before the 2011 game at the Kohl Center.

Thank you Sultan.  That was great.  Sure hope we don't lose some of that going forward.  Although so long as we are successful and winning..all good...as long is there is some athleticism present.  Actually can say watching Wisconsin play in the NCAA run - they actually were fun to watch.  GULP. 

[Stretchdeltsig]

It's great to be athletic, but, you have to be able to score to win.

[MarquetteNation]

@NickMedline says Ellenson's visit is off - I think he is referring to Northwestern. Maybe he's having too much fun in MKE?

[wadesworld]

@NickMedline says Ellenson's visit is off - I think he is referring to Northwestern. Maybe he's having too much fun in MKE?

Maybe not.

https://twitter.com/NickMedline

[MU82]

It's great to be athletic, but, you have to be able to score to win.

This is probably just me, but I actually prefer an athletic team that can score and win.

I also don't look at white guys and assume they are non-athletes who shoot well and black guys as if they are athletes who don't shoot well. Silly me.

(Stretch, BTW I'm not accusing you of doing any of those things. Just a general observation of the tone of far too many comments.)

[real chili 83]

"Be more athletic than they are. F--k with them."

Before the 2011 game at the Kohl Center.

That was a fun game.  Derrick had an awesome game, starting for Junior. 

Stirs the pot.

[tower912]

http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/uw_12_3_11

Box score and game account of that game.   Otule with 25 minutes to Gardner's 14.   2-11 3pt shooting.    Big contributions from DJO and Mayo.   

[real chili 83]

Loved it when Jae snubbed Bucky.

[NersEllenson]

That was a fun game.  Derrick had an awesome game, starting for Junior. 

Stirs the pot.

Yes, that was the game the legend of Derrick was born...and referenced many times this year..and while I agree Derrick played relatively well as a freshman at the Kohl defensively in his 20 minutes against Jordan Taylor....the awesome game included:

20 minutes, 0 points, 0 assists, 2 rebounds, 3 personal fouls - while yielding 13 points to Jordan Taylor.  Can imagine the Dawson bashers here getting all over Dawson if he posted the above line this past season.  Yet ironically, some point to the Wisconsin game in 2011 as Derrick's crowning achievement as a Golden Eagle.  Just sayin...

[real chili 83]

Yes, that was the game the legend of Derrick was born...and referenced many times this year..and while I agree Derrick played relatively well as a freshman at the Kohl defensively in his 20 minutes against Jordan Taylor....the awesome game included:

20 minutes, 0 points, 0 assists, 2 rebounds, 3 personal fouls - while yielding 13 points to Jordan Taylor.  Can imagine the Dawson bashers here getting all over Dawson if he posted the above line this past season.  Yet ironically, some point to the Wisconsin game in 2011 as Derrick's crowning achievement as a Golden Eagle.  Just sayin...

Ners, no response was required. 

[KenoshaWarrior]

Is Romo a True Friend of the Program?

Meme Watch???

[real chili 83]

Nate,

How's little Davante?

[NersEllenson]

Ners, no response was required. 

Sorry - I felt compelled to make the point, and stir the pot at your request.   

[bilsu]

Yes, that was the game the legend of Derrick was born...and referenced many times this year..and while I agree Derrick played relatively well as a freshman at the Kohl defensively in his 20 minutes against Jordan Taylor....the awesome game included:

20 minutes, 0 points, 0 assists, 2 rebounds, 3 personal fouls - while yielding 13 points to Jordan Taylor.  Can imagine the Dawson bashers here getting all over Dawson if he posted the above line this past season.  Yet ironically, some point to the Wisconsin game in 2011 as Derrick's crowning achievement as a Golden Eagle.  Just sayin...

It is a matter of perception. I was at that game and when it was announced that Cadougan was suspended for the game I had no hope. Derrick played very tough in that game and was the reason we won. Of course we needed other players to step up, but there is no way we would of won that game, if Derrick did not play the way he did.

[Wojo'sMojo]

It is a matter of perception. I was at that game and when it was announced that Cadougan was suspended for the game I had no hope. Derrick played very tough in that game and was the reason we won. Of course we needed other players to step up, but there is no way we would of won that game, if Derrick did not play the way he did.

So the reason we won was 0 points, 0 assists, and 2 rebounds? For the life of me, I will never understand the love fest some people on this board have with Derrick Wilson.

[bilsu]

So the reason we won was 0 points, 0 assists, and 2 rebounds? For the life of me, I will never understand the love fest some people on this board have with Derrick Wilson.

We won becasue he did not turn the ball over. A freshman not expecting to start all of a sudden is put in against arguably are biggest rival at the Kohl Center were the Badgers rarely lose. He came in and played with great composure. I still remember Crean's backup point guards, who could not play without turning the ball over. A good team has three scorers, the point guard does not have to be one of them.

[ChicosBailBonds]

We won because we played solid defense, the Badgers shot only 32% for the game and like 27% or something from 3 point land.  We out rebounded them if I recall.  D Will played a good game due to expectations with JC out.

[Jay Bee]

Yes, that was the game the legend of Derrick was born...and referenced many times this year..and while I agree Derrick played relatively well as a freshman at the Kohl defensively in his 20 minutes against Jordan Taylor....the awesome game included:

20 minutes, 0 points, 0 assists, 2 rebounds, 3 personal fouls - while yielding 13 points to Jordan Taylor.  Can imagine the Dawson bashers here getting all over Dawson if he posted the above line this past season.  Yet ironically, some point to the Wisconsin game in 2011 as Derrick's crowning achievement as a Golden Eagle.  Just sayin...

I generally don't read any of the Derrick vs. John vs. whatever nonsense... this one caught my eye and is another good example of people throwing out trash stats... puke.

Derrick's season-high 20 minutes at Wisconsin, a game in which MU was an 8-point underdog and Wilson was called upon in a crunch, was a strong performance by him. He did what he needed to: defend, keep the game flowing and don't turn the ball over.

I would have been far more alarmed with him scoring 10 points on 6 shots than I would have with him scoring 0 points on 0 shots.

Did he really "yield 13 points to Jordan Taylor"? Taylor had easily one of his five worst games of the season offensively, shooting a low 40% eFG while turning the ball over 5 times. How many other games did he turn it over 5 times during his senior season (in which he had a turnover rate of less than 12%)? ZERO. Never happened except in the loss to MU.

Taylor scored 13; fewer than half of those came while Derrick was even on the court. From the field, Taylor was 2/7 while Derrick was playing and 2/3 while he was out. 3 of his 5 turnovers came while Derrick was defending. Taylor had a grand total of 2 assists (1 with Derrick on the floor).

The fact is Derrick got minutes because of his mistake-free offense and good defense. And he delivered based on what was ordered. Excellent job in a hostile territory for a kid who hadn't played that much before. That's why 13 of Derrick's 20 minutes came in the second half when MU was ahead.

Wisconsin tried to slow this 63 possession game down, but MU kept the pace moving thanks in large part to Derrick. Time of possession: 1,037 MU, 1,363 Becky.

In addition, I believe that in scheduled regular season games Taylor had 4 fouls (never 5) in just 4 games. His 4 in 30 minutes vs. MU was his worst fouls per minute performance of the entire season (for a guy who avg'd 2.2 FC/40!).

Anyway, Jordan Taylor had an awful game. Derrick delivered how he needed to in order to help MU to a win. Great victory and a great game by Wilson.

That's all.

[wadesworld]

I generally don't read any of the Derrick vs. John vs. whatever nonsense... this one caught my eye and is another good example of people throwing out trash stats... puke.

Derrick's season-high 20 points at Wisconsin, a game in which MU was an 8-point underdog and Wilson was called upon in a crunch, was a strong performance by him. He did what he needed to: defend, keep the game flowing and don't turn the ball over.

I would have been far more alarmed with him scoring 10 points on 6 shots than I would have with him scoring 0 points on 0 shots.

Did he really "yield 13 points to Jordan Taylor"? Taylor had easily one of his five worst games of the season offensively, shooting a low 40% eFG while turning the ball over 5 times. How many other games did he turn it over 5 times during his senior season (in which he had a turnover rate of less than 12%)? ZERO. Never happened except in the loss to MU.

Taylor scored 13; fewer than half of those came while Derrick was even on the court. From the field, Taylor was 2/7 while Derrick was playing and 2/3 while he was out. 3 of his 5 turnovers came while Derrick was defending. Taylor had a grand total of 2 assists (1 with Derrick on the floor).

The fact is Derrick got minutes because of his mistake-free offense and good defense. And he delivered based on what was ordered. Excellent job in a hostile territory for a kid who hadn't played that much before. That's why 13 of Derrick's 20 minutes came in the second half when MU was ahead.

Wisconsin tried to slow this 63 possession game down, but MU kept the pace moving thanks in large part to Derrick. Time of possession: 1,037 MU, 1,363 Becky.

In addition, I believe that in scheduled regular season games Taylor had 4 fouls (never 5) in just 4 games. His 4 in 30 minutes vs. MU was his worst fouls per minute performance of the entire season (for a guy who avg'd 2.2 FC/40!).

Anyway, Jordan Taylor had an awful game. Derrick delivered how he needed to in order to help MU to a win. Great victory and a great game by Wilson.

That's all.

That doesn't fit Ners's and Wojo's agenda, though.

[NersEllenson]

I generally don't read any of the Derrick vs. John vs. whatever nonsense... this one caught my eye and is another good example of people throwing out trash stats... puke.

Derrick's season-high 20 minutes at Wisconsin, a game in which MU was an 8-point underdog and Wilson was called upon in a crunch, was a strong performance by him. He did what he needed to: defend, keep the game flowing and don't turn the ball over.

I would have been far more alarmed with him scoring 10 points on 6 shots than I would have with him scoring 0 points on 0 shots.

Did he really "yield 13 points to Jordan Taylor"? Taylor had easily one of his five worst games of the season offensively, shooting a low 40% eFG while turning the ball over 5 times. How many other games did he turn it over 5 times during his senior season (in which he had a turnover rate of less than 12%)? ZERO. Never happened except in the loss to MU.

Taylor scored 13; fewer than half of those came while Derrick was even on the court. From the field, Taylor was 2/7 while Derrick was playing and 2/3 while he was out. 3 of his 5 turnovers came while Derrick was defending. Taylor had a grand total of 2 assists (1 with Derrick on the floor).

The fact is Derrick got minutes because of his mistake-free offense and good defense. And he delivered based on what was ordered. Excellent job in a hostile territory for a kid who hadn't played that much before. That's why 13 of Derrick's 20 minutes came in the second half when MU was ahead.

Wisconsin tried to slow this 63 possession game down, but MU kept the pace moving thanks in large part to Derrick. Time of possession: 1,037 MU, 1,363 Becky.

In addition, I believe that in scheduled regular season games Taylor had 4 fouls (never 5) in just 4 games. His 4 in 30 minutes vs. MU was his worst fouls per minute performance of the entire season (for a guy who avg'd 2.2 FC/40!).

Anyway, Jordan Taylor had an awful game. Derrick delivered how he needed to in order to help MU to a win. Great victory and a great game by Wilson.

That's all.

He played a solid game...but to anoint as "great" is certainly a reach.   And really, on the bolded - "kept the pace moving?"  Where was that for all 33 games last season?  Worst Offensive Efficiency rating under Buzz by a landslide last season...where was our fast break game last year?  And I certainly don't recall Derrick blazing by Jordan Taylor forcing him into fouls...but if my memory serves me incorrectly...sure would have loved to see Derrick forcing other PGs into foul trouble in just 1 game last season.

17-15.  Missed NIT.  Enough said.

[real chili 83]

Ners, Ners, Ners.

[wadesworld]

He played a solid game...but to anoint as "great" is certainly a reach.   And really, on the bolded - "kept the pace moving?"  Where was that for all 33 games last season?  Worst Offensive Efficiency rating under Buzz by a landslide last season...where was our fast break game last year?  And I certainly don't recall Derrick blazing by Jordan Taylor forcing him into fouls...but if my memory serves me incorrectly...sure would have loved to see Derrick forcing other PGs into foul trouble in just 1 game last season.

17-15.  Missed NIT.  Enough said.

Yeah they play college basketball 1 on 1 now.

[GGGG]

He played a solid game...but to anoint as "great" is certainly a reach.   And really, on the bolded - "kept the pace moving?"  Where was that for all 33 games last season?  Worst Offensive Efficiency rating under Buzz by a landslide last season...where was our fast break game last year?  And I certainly don't recall Derrick blazing by Jordan Taylor forcing him into fouls...but if my memory serves me incorrectly...sure would have loved to see Derrick forcing other PGs into foul trouble in just 1 game last season.

17-15.  Missed NIT.  Enough said.

Of course, I have no idea what this has to do with what Jay Bee was saying about the UW game.

Why you have to default to your talking points from last year is beyond me.