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The Equalizer

Quote from: g0lden3agle on May 29, 2014, 06:42:53 AM

The use of the phrase "running them off" to describe transfers after the head coach leaves is beyond egregious.


The reality ranges from Buzz telling the player to leave (Christopherson confirmed it was the outcome of his first meeting with Buzz), benching a player mid-season (Hazel) and alienating a player (Mbakwe confirmed he was not planing to leave in April, and left in late August after experiencing Buzz's coaching over the summer--bootcamp drove him away perhaps?).

None of these fit the normal coaching transition departures that Lenny is trying to lump them in with (situations like Tyshawn Taylor or Ahmed Hill).  

At best, I'll give you that using the term "ran him off" with Mbakwe is debatable--Buzz's actions arguably had the effect of running him off, but I'll agree it wasn't his intent.  However, Hazel and Christopherson both meet the traditional defintion of a coach running off a player--nothing at all egregious about using the description with either of those cases.


g0lden3agle

Quote from: The Equalizer on May 29, 2014, 01:34:23 PM
The reality ranges from Buzz telling the player to leave (Christopherson confirmed it was the outcome of his first meeting with Buzz), benching a player mid-season (Hazel) and alienating a player (Mbakwe confirmed he was not planing to leave in April, and left in late August after experiencing Buzz's coaching over the summer--bootcamp drove him away perhaps?).

None of these fit the normal coaching transition departures that Lenny is trying to lump them in with (situations like Tyshawn Taylor or Ahmed Hill).  

At best, I'll give you that using the term "ran him off" with Mbakwe is debatable--Buzz's actions arguably had the effect of running him off, but I'll agree it wasn't his intent.  However, Hazel and Christopherson both meet the traditional defintion of a coach running off a player--nothing at all egregious about using the description with either of those cases.



Do you have a link to the Chistopherson confirmation?  I had never heard that before.

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Quote from: g0lden3agle on May 29, 2014, 01:40:09 PM
Do you have a link to the Chistopherson confirmation?  I had never heard that before.

I'll confirm it.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

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As always, choice of language is key. There is a big difference between Buzz telling Christopherson to get lost and a frank conversation where Buzz says that Chris will not get playing time unless he sees a vast improvement.

Hazel had off the court issues which warranted benching.

Mbakwe did not like Buzz' coaching style and left because of it.


"Running off" implies something shady occurs ed. Nothing shady happened here.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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