Diener back @ MU?

[keefe]

Travis would stay at Marquette as long as they will have him.

Careful, Doc. You don't want to get any of that stink on Diener. More horrific than the worst eye watering, knee buckling, stomach turning fart.

[real chili 83]

Travis needs to get back in town as he is the one player that escaped me in 2003 when getting the team's autographs it the MPLS Hilton.  Need his autograph.  I'll even let him sign right next to where Hank autographed the shirt.

[Blue Horseshoe]

Most of the logic on this thread is just absurd. Diener was a good college player so he must be a good coach. durrrrr. Using this logic if Novak retired, MU should hire him because he had a longer and more successful NBA career. Wait, but if Wade retires, MU should hire him because he had a longer and more successful NBA career.

Wait, success as a player has no actual correlation with coaching ability.

[77ncaachamps]

Most of the logic on this thread is just absurd. Diener was a good college player so he must be a good coach. durrrrr. Using this logic if Novak retired, MU should hire him because he had a longer and more successful NBA career. Wait, but if Wade retires, MU should hire him because he had a longer and more successful NBA career.

Wait, success as a player has no actual correlation with coaching ability.

Correct. But as a bench coach, player to former player chemistry can be powerful.
It's never a given, but it can be powerful.

[Benny B]

Travis needs to get back in town as he is the one player that escaped me in 2003 when getting the team's autographs it the MPLS Hilton.  Need his autograph.  I'll even let him sign right next to where Hank autographed the shirt.

Crowne Plaza.

[keefe]

Most of the logic on this thread is just absurd. Diener was a good college player so he must be a good coach. durrrrr. Using this logic if Novak retired, MU should hire him because he had a longer and more successful NBA career. Wait, but if Wade retires, MU should hire him because he had a longer and more successful NBA career.

Wait, success as a player has no actual correlation with coaching ability.

Nobody is suggesting he be brought in as the head coach or even as a lead assistant. A guy who excelled at the highest level of the game has a lot to offer along many dimensions. In any event, Wojo is the gate keeper and if he sees value he'll hire Diener. And frankly, there's not one Swinging Richard here who could argue otherwise. Unfortunately, regardless of what happens with this potentiality, people here will argue that someone is a bonehead and needs to be punished.

[brandx]

Most of the logic on this thread is just absurd. Diener was a good college player so he must be a good coach. durrrrr. Using this logic if Novak retired, MU should hire him because he had a longer and more successful NBA career. Wait, but if Wade retires, MU should hire him because he had a longer and more successful NBA career.

Wait, success as a player has no actual correlation with coaching ability.

He comes from a family of coaches; he played at MU; he is a student of the game; what more could you want for a 4th asst.?

You do realize that if no one hires coaches with no experience, eventually there will be no coaches.

[MUfan12]

I sure want Duane/John/Noskowiak being coached by two really good college PGs. There's no downside to Travis joining the support staff.

[mu03eng]

He comes from a family of coaches; he played at MU; he is a student of the game; what more could you want for a 4th asst.?

You do realize that if no one hires coaches with no experience, eventually there will be no coaches.

Not to mention he managed to run the bronzed beast's offense without issue....not many point guards can say that.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

well then you probably should call wiki and help them out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Few

His wiki is accurate. What you wrote was not.

Mark Few spent 9 seasons as an assistant before he was promoted to HC.

[MU82]

If Diener wants to come back, hiring him for this job would be the single easiest decision Wojo will ever have to make as Marquette coach.

There is zero downside. Zero.

[Tums Festival]

Most of the logic on this thread is just absurd. Diener was a good college player so he must be a good coach. durrrrr. Using this logic if Novak retired, MU should hire him because he had a longer and more successful NBA career. Wait, but if Wade retires, MU should hire him because he had a longer and more successful NBA career.

Wait, success as a player has no actual correlation with coaching ability.

What you're overlooking is that he would be brought in to learn how to become a quality coach drawing on his playing experience and family connections. No one's suggesting handing him the keys to the castle right now.

[Hards Alumni]

I heard Calipari had lots of experience when he was hired as an assistant for the 1st time 

Same with lots of other guys....whoops, make that every other guy. I think they all had experience before they started their 1st assistant coaching job.

But that isn't at all what I said.  Why let that get in the way though.

[Blue Horseshoe]

I heard Calipari had lots of experience when he was hired as an assistant for the 1st time 

But that isn't at all what I said.  Why let that get in the way though.

That Calipari guy was a mediocre college player at a small time program! He'll never be able to recruit/coach a big time level!

Most of the backwards logic continues. Hire a coach that will benefit the program. Don't just assume because he played at the same school it will some how catapult his ability to relate and coach. That narrative is boring and dumb.

He comes from a family of coaches; he played at MU; he is a student of the game; what more could you want for a 4th asst.?

You do realize that if no one hires coaches with no experience, eventually there will be no coaches.

A family of coaches! He must be a student of the game because his uncles coach high school basketball. Countless days dissecting tape, breaking down decades worth of players, teams, evolution of strategy. Books upon books upon books.

This is not an argument about his coaching experience (which is actually valid, but not the most important factor when hiring an assistant coach). This thread is full of long term speculation about Wojo and Diener climbing the MU coaching rank. Hiring old players simply based on their playing career is a bad idea. It almost never works and usually fails miserably. See NBA, NFL, NHL. Even playing at the real highest level doesn't translate to coaching or front office success. When will people understand that? Probably never.

[jsglow]

I'm astounded anyone would have the slightest hesitation bringing Travis Diener back to the Marquette program. The guy has a lot to offer. Certainly more than any of us chuckleheads. Get him on-board now in any capacity.

+1 Really guys?  Not wanting 'The teenage assassin?'

[Coleman]

Do you think he would run tackling dummy drills in practice?

[wadesworld]

My only condition for Diener to be brought on board would be for him to bring tackling dummies back to the MU program. Teach these kids some toughness.

Do you think he would run tackling dummy drills in practice?

Real original, Bleuteaux.

[keefe]

Real original, Bleuteaux.

C'mon world, in the smorgasbord of buffoonery that is Tanned Tommy the tackling dummy fiasco was not the most ludicrous but certainly one of the most harmful. Anyone who substitutes gimmicks for substance believes ketchup is a vegetable.

[GOO]

C'mon world, in the smorgasbord of buffoonery that is Tanned Tommy the tackling dummy fiasco was not the most ludicrous but certainly one of the most harmful. Anyone who substitutes gimmicks for substance believes ketchup is a vegetable.

Well, all lawyers know that a tomato is a vegetable because the Supreme Court told us so.  And thus, ketchup is a vegetable derivative and counts as a vegetable.  And we know that potato's are also vegetables.   Man, why did I stop eating fries?

This is probably how Prince Fielder gained weight when he was a vegetarian for a year.

[Big Daddy 84]

We want TD for a lot of reasons, but it would also just about assure that his cousin would come to MU in 4 years.

[Coleman]

Real original, Bleuteaux.

I guess that's what I get for not reading the rest of the thread before posting   

[Litehouse]

We want TD for a lot of reasons, but it would also just about assure that his cousin would come to MU in 4 years.

http://www.ny2lasports.com/player_details.aspx?playerid=3647

[keefe]

http://www.ny2lasports.com/player_details.aspx?playerid=3647

How many friggin' Diener ballers are there? What a genetic pipeline.

[wadesworld]

I guess that's what I get for not reading the rest of the thread before posting   

[Dawson Rental]

Well, all lawyers know that a tomato is a vegetable because the Supreme Court told us so.  And thus, ketchup is a vegetable derivative and counts as a vegetable.  And we know that potato's are also vegetables.   Man, why did I stop eating fries?

This is probably how Prince Fielder gained weight when he was a vegetarian for a year.

I don't believe in what courts say, I believe in what scientists say.

And science says tomatos are actually fruit, therefore I know that ketchup is really a fruit smoothie.