Matt Heldt

[Aircraftcarrier]

Look at Dean Smiths teams at NC.He always had about 4 or 5 guys 6'9" and taller.Also a great point guard.If you have a great point guard and a good big man you can win alot of games.The 2,3 and 4 position can be serviceable.

[WarhawkWarrior]

Someone tell Crean to get. Out of our yard. 

[MuMark]

Ryan James ‏@RyanJamesMN  7m
Wisconsin source tells me Minnesota has contacted Matt Heldt and Brevin Pritzl with growing interest.

[brandx]

Look at Dean Smiths teams at NC.He always had about 4 or 5 guys 6'9" and taller.Also a great point guard.If you have a great point guard and a good big man you can win alot of games.The 2,3 and 4 position can be serviceable.

Good point. Good big men and PGs are the hardest to find. It's relatively easy to fill in the other spots.

[brandx]

Like brandx

Again you are wrong. I was making fun of you, not Heldt.

I have never said one disparaging word about Heldt's abilities. Ever. It would be outstanding to see him here.

[River rat]

6-10, 210 lbs and NIU, UWGB, UWM, and the basketball powerhouse Toledo are recruiting him.  The stench of Mike Deane's recruiting "prowess" grows stronger with Wojo. 

Sounds like about the same list that had offered sandy cohen before his summer before his senior year

[brandx]

Sounds like about the same list that had offered sandy cohen before his summer before his senior year

Exactly. Guys don't always develop at the same pace.

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Sounds like about the same list that had offered sandy cohen before his summer before his senior year

Yeah, the problem is this kid is 6'10" and has a huge advantage over the competition he plays against.  His stats are going to be inflated.  How many games did he play against smaller defenders?  How well did he do against decent competition? 

[MU82]

Look at Dean Smiths teams at NC.He always had about 4 or 5 guys 6'9" and taller.Also a great point guard.If you have a great point guard and a good big man you can win alot of games.The 2,3 and 4 position can be serviceable.

Too bad we didn't get Dean Smith to fill our coaching vacancy.

[We R Final Four]

Funny....when we r interested in a player with interest from mid majors we think Wojo can't recruit/not MU caliber but when player starts to get offers from high majors same people will say we gotta get him/can't let him get away. If U of M wants him then by golly now we want him.

[lohaus]

Loved watching this guy play.  I, too, was a non-believer until I actually watched him play.  Soft hands, nice jumper, runs the floor, looks like he is strong and not 6'10" skin and bones.  Watched him at State come out and bust a 7 footer (a stiff) with about 5 different post moves right off the bat.  Baseline spins, drop steps, hook shoots, jumpers.  He has some nice moves and footwork.  I would have no problem see him playing at MU.   Good motor.

[Groin_pull]

24/7 continues to predict MU. That's an encouraging sign.

[MU82]

Funny....when we r interested in a player with interest from mid majors we think Wojo can't recruit/not MU caliber but when player starts to get offers from high majors same people will say we gotta get him/can't let him get away. If U of M wants him then by golly now we want him.

This.

[mileskishnish72]

You can't teach Heidt.

[jakeec]

Sounds like a good prospect.

[We R Final Four]

Loved watching this guy play.  I, too, was a non-believer until I actually watched him play.  Soft hands, nice jumper, runs the floor, looks like he is strong and not 6'10" skin and bones.  Watched him at State come out and bust a 7 footer (a stiff) with about 5 different post moves right off the bat.  Baseline spins, drop steps, hook shoots, jumpers.  He has some nice moves and footwork.  I would have no problem see him playing at MU.   Good motor.

I agree-- however he certainly is NOT strong and would be on the skin and bones side--as would most 6'10" HS juniors.

[Rudy]

You can't teach Heidt.

I can't let that go. That is good!!

[MU82]

Yeah, the problem is this kid is 6'10" and has a huge advantage over the competition he plays against.  His stats are going to be inflated.  How many games did he play against smaller defenders?  How well did he do against decent competition? 

Same was true of Joe Wolf. And Kevin Garnett. And Lew Alcindor. And Wilt. And Shaq. And Frank Kaminsky. And many, many, many guys that tall.

There are only so many of them to go around, only so many per metro area.

Except for the guys who play for the national prep teams that travel all over the country playing other elite teams, nearly every tall guy plays the vast majority of his games going up against considerably shorter opponents.

[GooooMarquette]

Funny....when we r interested in a player with interest from mid majors we think Wojo can't recruit/not MU caliber but when player starts to get offers from high majors same people will say we gotta get him/can't let him get away. If U of M wants him then by golly now we want him.

Yep.  If TC decided who to recruit based on the other schools in the race, DWade might never have come to MU.  Didn't he pick us over Illinois State and DePaul?  Or Jerel, who had it down to MU and Dayton.  So arguably our best player ever, and our all-time leading scorer....

And how many teams were fighting over Jimmy Butler when Buzz signed him?

[GGGG]

I think Heldt looks like a guy who is going to have people scratching their heads as a freshman...but as an upper classmen is going to be very valuable.

And with regards to competition, remember this guy has held his own in AAU tournaments against the likes of Ellenson.

[BCHoopster]

I think Heldt looks like a guy who is going to have people scratching their heads as a freshman...but as an upper classmen is going to be very valuable.

And with regards to competition, remember this guy has held his own in AAU tournaments against the likes of Ellenson.

Two years behind Fisher will give him some experience to learn the college game and will get better, he will be a nice sub behind Fisher.  But dream about Fisher, Stone, Burton, JJJ and
Wilson as a starting 5 in two years.  Wojo has 6 scholarships to give out, next year he will need to at least give out 4-5 scholarships.  He is giving out a lot of offers, much like Buzz did.

[frozena pizza]

Same was true of Joe Wolf. And Kevin Garnett. And Lew Alcindor. And Wilt. And Shaq. And Frank Kaminsky. And many, many, many guys that tall.

There are only so many of them to go around, only so many per metro area.

Except for the guys who play for the national prep teams that travel all over the country playing other elite teams, nearly every tall guy plays the vast majority of his games going up against considerably shorter opponents.

Exactly.  But also, from what I have read, it sounds like Heldt has some solid basketball skills beyond his size.  He has good post moves, a mid-range jumper, makes his free throws, etc.  He will also add strength as he gets older and on a D-1 weight training routine.  I'd love to get him.

[Lennys Tap]

Yep.  If TC decided who to recruit based on the other schools in the race, DWade might never have come to MU.  Didn't he pick us over Illinois State and DePaul?  Or Jerel, who had it down to MU and Dayton.  So arguably our best player ever, and our all-time leading scorer....

And how many teams were fighting over Jimmy Butler when Buzz signed him?

Right on Jerel, technically right on Wade but misleading. The reason we only had DePaul and Illinois St to beat out for Wade was that he was a Prop 48 non qualifier who was ineligible for a scholarship at any BCS school. Crean convinced Fr Wild and admissions to take Wade in spite of his academic shortcomings and the rest, as they say, is history. Al, TC and Buzz were all aided by a university that made exceptions for players with less than perfect academic backgrounds. Those who celebrate what they perceive to be a departure from that policy should be careful what they wish for.

[frozena pizza]

Right on Jerel, technically right on Wade but misleading. The reason we only had DePaul and Illinois St to beat out for Wade was that he was a Prop 48 non qualifier who was ineligible for a scholarship at any BCS school. Crean convinced Fr Wild and admissions to take Wade in spite of his academic shortcomings and the rest, as they say, is history. Al, TC and Buzz were all aided by a university that made exceptions for players with less than perfect academic backgrounds. Those who celebrate what they perceive to be a departure from that policy should be careful what they wish for.

That's also a bit misleading.  It wasn't known throughout Wade's recruiting process that he would not be eligible immediately.  He was recruited by the schools you mention as well as Bradley I believe.  In the end, his top choice would have been DePaul except when he talked to them about the possibility of not being eligible he didn't like their answer, which was not very supportive.  By contrast, Crean assured Wade that he would be 100% committed to him regardless of his eligibility.  This tipped the scale in favor of Marquette.  Say what you want about Crean for taking another job, but he supported Wade throughout a very difficult period in his life - from being ineligible his freshman year, his mother's struggles with drugs, becoming a father, and ultimately pushing him to make the jump to the NBA.

[Dawson Rental]

Yep.  If TC decided who to recruit based on the other schools in the race, DWade might never have come to MU.  Didn't he pick us over Illinois State and DePaul?  Or Jerel, who had it down to MU and Dayton.  So arguably our best player ever, and our all-time leading scorer....

And how many teams were fighting over Jimmy Butler when Buzz signed him?

A few very good ones were involved, including Kentucky.