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 Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDaniels 4m

Buzz Williams had both Hill & Pierce committed at Marquette. He's off to a tremendous recruiting start obviously.
from Lexington-Fayette, KY


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Satchel Pierce, a three-star center, just committed to Virginia Tech, according to a source.
from Lexington-Fayette, KY

Tugg Speedman

And this

Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDaniels 13m Ahmed Hill, a top 100 shooting guard in the 2014 class, just committed to Virginia Tech, per a source.

Groin_pull

So, they fall for Brent's schtick not once, but twice? Wow. They must really love Brent to follow him to a sh*thole like Blacksburg.

Seems like Hill is really selling himself short. Could do much better.

nyg

Good luck to Hill, he is a player.  He will probably start, average a good amount of points on a team that went 2-16 in ACC play, with both wins over Miami.  Maybe thats want he wants, to be the "man" on a losing, depleted program like VaTech, where football is the "man". 

Groin_pull

Quote from: nyg on April 19, 2014, 09:27:34 AM
Good luck to Hill, he is a player.  He will probably start, average a good amount of points on a team that went 2-16 in ACC play, with both wins over Miami.  Maybe thats want he wants, to be the "man" on a losing, depleted program like VaTech, where football is the "man". 

More like he's totally buying the b.s. that Brent is shoveling.

Or else he's looking forward to not playing his freshman year and getting yelled at by a sweaty bald guy with baked bean teeth.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: nyg on April 19, 2014, 09:27:34 AM
Good luck to Hill, he is a player.  He will probably start, average a good amount of points on a team that went 2-16 in ACC play, with both wins over Miami.  Maybe thats want he wants, to be the "man" on a losing, depleted program like VaTech, where football is the "man". 

I bet VT does better next year, say 5 - 13, and then Hill transfers.

TheTulsaWarrior

#6
Brent spent an unprecedented amount of Marquette's recruiting budget getting a commitment from these two players.  While he and Chew were on the Marquette payroll they were able to sell themselves to these young players.  BW and Chew did their job if not for their employer for themselves.  It's character revealed.  It should be interesting if their Marquette time recruiting JUCO power forward Willie Atwood will payoff for VPI.  You know that story -- even though Marquette didn't have any scholarships available the former MU coaches needed to use a booster's private jet multiple times to go to Oklahoma to recruit Atwood.  The excuse was you never know when a scholarship or two or three will open up.  You ever feel like you were sold a bill of goods by a couple of snake oil salesmen?

BW knew he was leaving if was just a question of where.

ThatDude

I cant even hate, Buzz is a great recruiter.  Simple as that.

Im just excited to see what Wojo can do!

Wojo'sMojo

So Hill decommits and less than 48 hours signs with Va Tech. It's laughable that people were wishing him the best of luck and blah, blah, blah. He never considered Marquette and knew he was going with Buzz the whole time. Hill is just as phony and full of bs as Brent...I hope they go winless together.

Tugg Speedman

Former Marquette commits Ahmed Hill, Satchel Pierce follow Buzz Williams to Virginia Tech

Scott Phillips
Apr 19, 2014, 10:30 AM EDT

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/former-marquette-commits-ahmed-hill-satchel-pierce-follow-buzz-williams-to-virginia-tech/

Buzz Williams is off to a tremendous start on the recruiting trail at Virginia Tech. After pulling a shocker and switching from Marquette to the ACC program earlier this spring, Williams landed two of his former commits at the Big East school as top-100 shooting guard Ahmed Hill and three-star center Satchel Pierce committed to the Hokies on Saturday morning during their official visits.

The news of the commitments was first reported by Scout.com's Evan Daniels.

The 6-foot-4 Hill is regarded as Rivals.com's No. 69 player in the 2014 national class and he was one of the best unsigned prospects remaining after recently decommitting from Marquette and being released from his NLI. The native of Augusta, Georgia played for the Southern Stampede in the Nike EYBL and comes from Aquinas High School.

Pierce, a 6-foot-10 center from Kiski School in Saltsburg, Pennsylvania, is a three-star prospect and gives the Hokies an immediate boost on the interior since they lost freshman center Trevor Thompson to transfer this offseason. Pierce played on the grassroots circuit with the Ohio Phenoms.

This type of thing shows that players are committing to play for a head coach just as much as a school as we saw Kingsley Okoroh switch his commitment from Tennessee to Cal when Cuonzo Martin went to the West Coast earlier this week.

Blackhat

Quote from: ThatDude on April 19, 2014, 09:45:23 AM
I cant even hate, Buzz is a great recruiter.  Simple as that.

Im just excited to see what Wojo can do!

Sounds like he's hot on the trail for some Wisco honkies.

Go get em!

MUSF

Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on April 19, 2014, 09:37:53 AM
Brent spent an unprecedented amount of Marquette's recruiting budget getting a commitment from these two players.  While he and Chew were on the Marquette payroll they were able to sell themselves to these young players.  BW and Chew did their job if not for their employer for themselves.  It's character revealed.

So you're saying that our HC and assistant coach worked really hard to recruit two talented players, and somehow this is character revealed? You guys are fishing on this one. It sounds like Buzz and Chew did their job and did it well.

It's telling that these two would follow Buzz to VT. The obviously believe in him and trust the relationship they have developed. Just like Jimmy, Jae, Lazar, DJO, etc.. Good luck to them both. I hope they made the right decision.

MU82

When Buzz was getting Hill here, part of a second straight highly ranked recruiting class, many (including me) were praising him as a good recruiter.

Now that those same recruits are sticking with him, I guess it's time to bash him as a lying jerk with a slimy schtick. Interesting.

Recruiting is salesmanship -- a schtick is necessary, especially at the non-bluebloods. I just hope Wojo develops as successful a schtick as Buzz had. I'm confident he will, in his own way.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Groin_pull

At the end of the day, Hill is ranked #69 and Pierce isn't close to the top 100.

I think MU will survive.

TheTulsaWarrior

The nine players left on the current Marquette roster know BW and Chew better than the recruits who have signed with VPI.  Have you noticed none of the MU players have expressed an interest in going to Blacksburg?  Those two former employees are great headhunters, particularly when they can work with an unlimited recruiting budget.  In that area they are some of the best in the business.

MU82

Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on April 19, 2014, 09:56:33 AM
The nine players left on the current Marquette roster know BW and Chew better than the recruits who have signed with VPI.  Have you noticed none of the MU players have expressed an interest in going to Blacksburg?  Those two former employees are great headhunters, particularly when they can work with an unlimited recruiting budget.  In that area they are some of the best in the business.

This is an excellent point. Of course, in the name of objectivity one must point out that it's far easier psychologically to commit to play for a coach than it is to transfer to play for a coach because the incoming frosh doesn't have to sit out an entire year as the transfer does. So you have to REALLY want to play for that coach to transfer to him.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MUSF

Quote from: TheTulsaWarrior on April 19, 2014, 09:56:33 AM
The nine players left on the current Marquette roster know BW and Chew better than the recruits who have signed with VPI.  Have you noticed none of the MU players have expressed an interest in going to Blacksburg?  Those two former employees are great headhunters, particularly when they can work with an unlimited recruiting budget.  In that area they are some of the best in the business.

This is simply revisionist history. Most of Buzz's former players have nothing but positive things to say about him. Lazar asked if he could continue attending "life lessons" with the team after he was drafted.

Buzz had one bad year, and apparently burned bridges / tarnished some relationships before heading out the door. That doesn't mean that Buzz is just a high paid head hunter that doesn't follow through on his sales pitch about developing players and men. Most former players seem to believe in him.

Tums Festival

#17
It is what it is. Marquette will be fine, we have a much better person now as our coach. I'll be interested to see how much these two contribute next year. With Hill, Va, Tech now has three shooting guards in their 2014 class Why anyone would choose to play hoops at Va. Tech when they had offers from much better schools is beyond me.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Funny that Buzz is slimy and providing schtick for Hill and Pierce to go to VT.

But we would be singing Wojo's praises if he convinced some of those Dookies to follow him.

Just saying
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Groin_pull

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 19, 2014, 10:25:54 AM
Funny that Buzz is slimy and providing schtick for Hill and Pierce to go to VT.

But we would be singing Wojo's praises if he convinced some of those Dookies to follow him.

Just saying

Glad to see you're still president of the Milwaukee chapter of the Brent Williams fan club.

ThatDude

Are there any top players left in 2014?

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Groin_pull on April 19, 2014, 09:52:42 AM
At the end of the day, Hill is ranked #69 and Pierce isn't close to the top 100.

I think MU will survive.

I'm sure ACC schools like 'Cuse, Duke, Louisville, UNC, etc. are quaking in their boots at this news.

keefe

Quote from: Heisenberg on April 19, 2014, 09:34:44 AM
I bet VT does better next year, say 5 - 13, and then Hill transfers after spending most of the season on the bench.


Death on call

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: ThatDude on April 19, 2014, 10:56:39 AM
Are there any top players left in 2014?

Probably not enough to fill three scholarships I wouldn't think.  If we fill all three, guess is at least one is a transfer, maybe two.  There's certainly a ton of transfer prospects all over deciding on a new school.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 19, 2014, 10:25:54 AM
Funny that Buzz is slimy and providing schtick for Hill and Pierce to go to VT.

But we would be singing Wojo's praises if he convinced some of those Dookies to follow him.

Just saying

Everyone is saying that because of Buzz's slimy history.  Coach Wojo has no history as a slimebag, his reputation is a polar opposite in fact.

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