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WI class of 2015

Started by HutchwasClutch, April 12, 2014, 08:26:50 AM

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HutchwasClutch

The state has so many high level prospects in next year's class-
Noskowiak
Stone
Ellenson
Brevin Pritzl
Matt Heldt

Mike Miller tweeted a couple of days ago about MU's increasing interest in Pritzl and Heldt.

As things stand today, one open scholarship, and then three more openings for 2015-16 season (Anderson, De. Wilson, and Mayo complete eligibility). 

It sure seems that Noskowiak is MU's to lose, and he's more likely than not to re-commit and sign. 

So bank the scholarship for next season, go with 12 scholarship players next year, and try and cash in on the state's very strong 2015 class?   I think that's the route I prefer Coach Wojo go.  Imagine a four man class of Noskowiak, Stone, Ellenson, Heldt- three bigs and an elite guard- three top 50-60 prospects, and all from the state?! 

The Process

Wouldn't a grad transfer have the same effect as banking the schollie and keep MU at 13 players?
Relax. Respect the Process.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: The Process on April 12, 2014, 08:38:55 AM
Wouldn't a grad transfer have the same effect as banking the schollie and keep MU at 13 players?

I'm not against that either- if there's a guy coach thinks can put us over the top for next year, get us to another level, great. 

I guess my main question about bringing in a one year guy is- how deep does Coach Wojo plan on his rotation being next year?  Coming from the Duke system, I don't see the same liberal substitution patterns that we saw with Buzz.  I think as things stand right now, the 10 guys committed all bring things to the table that will make a challenge for Wojo to find minutes for.  Like many, I've kind of written off Juan Anderson and Derrick Wilson, but you can't discount their experience and some things they bring to the table already. 

chapman

Quote from: The Process on April 12, 2014, 08:38:55 AM
Wouldn't a grad transfer have the same effect as banking the schollie and keep MU at 13 players?

Yes, except it gives you a body for this year rather than self-imposing a scholarship penalty on the program for no reason.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: chapman on April 12, 2014, 09:05:28 AM
Yes, except it gives you a body for this year rather than self-imposing a scholarship penalty on the program for no reason.

I agree with that, but you bring in a one year guy and someone, likely more than one guy, minutes and opportunities are going to be reduced.  There's only so many minutes to spread around.  That's my only concern with bringing in a guy for next season only.

MUSF

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 12, 2014, 09:09:55 AM
I agree with that, but you bring in a one year guy and someone, likely more than one guy, minutes and opportunities are going to be reduced.  There's only so many minutes to spread around.  That's my only concern with bringing in a guy for next season only.

I wouldn't worry about minutes with the players we are returning next year. If we can get a good player, we take it.

The Process

Quote from: chapman on April 12, 2014, 09:05:28 AM
Yes, except it gives you a body for this year rather than self-imposing a scholarship penalty on the program for no reason.

Which was exactly where I was headed. Why only keep 12 this year? One never knows what'll happen with injuries and whatnot.
Relax. Respect the Process.

WadeATKBurton

I'll pass on everyone except Stone and maybe Ellenson.

ZiggysFryBoy

maybe we pull an I4 and self impose a reduction in scholarships for this upcoming year.  You know, to prep for all of the turrible things that the bailbondsman keeps implying will be coming to light and stuff.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: chapman on April 12, 2014, 09:05:28 AM
Yes, except it gives you a body for this year rather than self-imposing a scholarship penalty on the program for no reason.

I think that that was the point that The Process was making.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: atk13thst on April 12, 2014, 09:47:26 AM
I'll pass on everyone except Stone and maybe Ellenson.

So, using your criteria, Marquette would have passed on Dwyane Wade, Travis Diener and Jim McIlvaine.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 12, 2014, 08:58:58 AM
I'm not against that either- if there's a guy coach thinks can put us over the top for next year, get us to another level, great. 

I guess my main question about bringing in a one year guy is- how deep does Coach Wojo plan on his rotation being next year?  Coming from the Duke system, I don't see the same liberal substitution patterns that we saw with Buzz.  I think as things stand right now, the 10 guys committed all bring things to the table that will make a challenge for Wojo to find minutes for.  Like many, I've kind of written off Juan Anderson and Derrick Wilson, but you can't discount their experience and some things they bring to the table already. 


Unless Wojo gets a transfer big who can play immediately, Juan Anderson will probably get pushed back inside where he'll get some minutes and even be the top reserve until Luke is eligible.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Aircraftcarrier

You would pass on Ellenson?You sure do not know much about evaluating talent then.Glad you are not the coach.smh.

WadeATKBurton

Quote from: Aircraftcarrier on April 12, 2014, 10:27:25 AM
You would pass on Ellenson?You sure do not know much about evaluating talent then.Glad you are not the coach.smh.

Ok

Tums Festival

Ellenson is a stud and a worker and has lots of upside. If Wojo runs anything close to what Duke likes to run on offense, he could do quite well at MU. Plus he seems to have meshed with Noskowiak on their AAU team. I think he's a big target of Wojo's.
"Every day ends with a Tums festival!"

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Heavy Gear on April 12, 2014, 10:36:52 AM
Ellenson is a stud and a worker and has lots of upside. If Wojo runs anything close to what Duke likes to run on offense, he could do quite well at MU. Plus he seems to have meshed with Noskowiak on their AAU team. I think he's a big target of Wojo's.

Marquette was nowhere in the picture with Ellenson when Buzz was here.  Just being considered by him at this late point is great work by Wojo.  Landing him would be an epic recruiting win. 
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Aircraftcarrier

Ellenson can go to any school he wants.He is that good.

oshkoshbgosh

A agree about Ellenson, he's a stud. He can really run the floor and handle the ball for 6'10". Another player not mentioned is Cody Schwartz, 6'8" with a legitimate 3-point range.

Earl Tatum

Heavy Gear--- That's what I been saying on many blogs--- Also, Noskowiak is as good as advertised and Pritzl and Schwartz getting nearing the top. Heldt just keeps getting better and
this summer, AAU Ball, he will be more than noticed. Can shoot, rebound and move.
Ellenson, with all his talent, is a hard worker. So, Stone is not the only one in 2015.

Earl Tatum

Just to let you know, I saw them in action in big games against good players,

Warrior Code

So coach Wojo is already so good he can pick and choose who he wants from Wisconsin? Save the scholarship, we need it for the talent coming here next year. Got it.


I guess I have to admit I'm happy to hear a certain local program's recent Final Four will have no bearing on the minds of in-state recruits.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

My to get list from the WI class of 2015

Diamond Stone
Henry Ellenson
Nick Noskowiak
Matt Heldt
Cody Schwartz
Damontrae Jefferson

Probably pass on everyone else.

Oh, and you fill every scholarship you can for 2014. If you need it for 2015, cut the kid after a year. It seems cold but it is perfectly acceptable and happens more than we think
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WadeATKBurton

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 12, 2014, 12:55:24 PM
My to get list from the WI class of 2015

Diamond Stone
Henry Ellenson
Nick Noskowiak
Matt Heldt
Cody Schwartz
Damontrae Jefferson

Probably pass on everyone else.

Oh, and you fill every scholarship you can for 2014. If you need it for 2015, cut the kid after a year. It seems cold but it is perfectly acceptable and happens more than we think

That Da. Jefferson kid is a really, REALLY good!

Dawson Rental

Quote from: atk13thst on April 12, 2014, 01:24:59 PM
That Da. Jefferson kid is a really, REALLY good!

You're gonna need to use teal so people know you're kidding.  I knew because its obvious to me that there's no way you'd know who this kid was.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

The Process

Quote from: LittleMurs on April 12, 2014, 07:02:22 PM
You're gonna need to use teal so people know you're kidding.  I knew because its obvious to me that there's no way you'd know who this kid was.

No wonder why Cuonzo had such troubles recruiting at Tennessee - he did it all via message board!
Relax. Respect the Process.